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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 10:28:17 GMT -5
1) Signed Teddy Bridgewater and after expending $0 turned him into a Round 3 pick, basically buying a Round 3 selection for free(Bridgewater was in Shurmur's scheme and we had no backup given our view of Webb, so where were we?)
2) Moved up to # 3 and watched us select a RB at 2 sending Sam Darnold into their laps
3) Picked up Davis Webb who we invested a Round 3 into off the scrap heap
4) Have Josh McCown sitting on the bench coming off a better year than Eli Manning and can easily end up dealing him should another team lose a starting QB to injury and then promote Webb to backup from the practice squad.
The Jets have gotten QB wrong for about 100 years. They just had an outstanding offseason at the most important position in football.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 4, 2018 10:33:33 GMT -5
it all looks good right now see in 3 years wether Darnold or Webb is the real deal.
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Post by BigBlue58 on Sept 4, 2018 11:05:45 GMT -5
Nobody knows that Darnold is "the real deal" until he actually plays in NFL games that count!
Why do people keep insisting on putting the cart before the horse with rookie QB's, when every one of them that ever ended up going bust all looked golden before imploding at the NFL level!
He could very well be as good as advertised, or be just another QB phenom the NFL chews up and spits out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:13:22 GMT -5
I like how the Jets have 2 QBs on the roster and one on the practice squad. Smart setup. Not sure why the Giants are wasting the roster spot on Tanney.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:14:07 GMT -5
Nobody knows that Darnold is "the real deal" until he actually plays in NFL games that count! Why do people keep insisting on putting the cart before the horse with rookie QB's, when every one of them that ever ended up going bust all looked golden before imploding at the NFL level! He could very well be as good as advertised, or be just another QB phenom the NFL chews up and spits out. I agree he needs to prove it, but that's the same for all positions. It's not just QBs that bust. I watched them in the preseason and Darnold has a good command out there already and appears decisive. His frame is thick and he's going to get thicker. He's gonna shed a lot of contact in a Big Ben type way that will buy that extra second for WRs and lead to big plays. He or Allen is who I'd have taken. He's 2 years younger that Eli was when he was drafted. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:15:12 GMT -5
I like how the Jets have 2 QBs on the roster and one on the practice squad. Smart setup. Not sure why the Giants are wasting the roster spot on Tanney. Tanney is the backup unless they replace him with McGloin. Problem is Giants want a vet backup and don't wanna expose Lauletta to waivers. So they've gotta carry 3. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -5
I like how the Jets have 2 QBs on the roster and one on the practice squad. Smart setup. Not sure why the Giants are wasting the roster spot on Tanney. Tanney is the backup unless they replace him with McGloin. Problem is Giants want a vet backup and don't wanna expose Lauletta to waivers. So they've gotta carry 3. Personally I hate that they spent a 4th round pick on a QB that they are afraid to let be the backup if that is indeed he case. Tanney gives them nothing that Lauletta doesn’t give them. |
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Post by EliQB10 on Sept 4, 2018 11:21:44 GMT -5
Looks good on paper but final outcome is TBD
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Post by BigBlue58 on Sept 4, 2018 11:27:13 GMT -5
Nobody knows that Darnold is "the real deal" until he actually plays in NFL games that count! Why do people keep insisting on putting the cart before the horse with rookie QB's, when every one of them that ever ended up going bust all looked golden before imploding at the NFL level! He could very well be as good as advertised, or be just another QB phenom the NFL chews up and spits out. I agree he needs to prove it, but that's the same for all positions. It's not just QBs that bust. I watched them in the preseasobn and Darnold has a good command out there already and appears decisive. His frame is thick and he's going to get thicker. He's gonna shed a lot of contact in a Big Ben type way that will buy that extra second for WRs and lead to big plays. He or Allen is who I'd have taken. He's 2 years younger that Eli was when he was drafted. Agreed that its not just QB's who go bust , but Darnold is a QB phenom, he was what all the fuss was about, the Jets didn't covet any other position as their first round pick, so I was speaking about him specifically! Just pointing out that they said all the same glowing things about every QB phenom that ever went bust. I'm a wait and see kind of guy! Can't help it. 60 years on this earth watching "experts" get it wrong hundreds of times, with players, games, matchups, ..(SUPER BOWL PREDICTIONS ....TWICE) has taught me that the only thing that matters is the pudding and the proof in it! "experts" get it wrong thousands of times |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:27:57 GMT -5
1) Signed Teddy Bridgewater and after expending $0 turned him into a Round 3 pick, basically buying a Round 3 selection for free(Bridgewater was in Shurmur's scheme and we had no backup given our view of Webb, so where were we?)
2) Moved up to # 3 and watched us select a RB at 2 sending Sam Darnold into their laps
3) Picked up Davis Webb who we invested a Round 3 into off the scrap heap
4) Have Josh McCown sitting on the bench coming off a better year than Eli Manning and can easily end up dealing him should another team lose a starting QB to injury and then promote Webb to backup from the practice squad.
The Jets have gotten QB wrong for about 100 years. They just had an outstanding offseason at the most important position in football.
1. What the Jets managed to do by signing Teddy Bridgewater and trading him to the Saints for a third round pick was nothing short of great business. However, how many times have we seen these type of deals pulled off? I'm struggling to think of another example. 2. The move up by the Jets was ambitious, but let's not crown Sam Darnold before he steps foot on an NFL field. USC is not exactly a hotbed for great NFL QBs. Carson Palmer is probably their best QB but others like Mark Sanchez (5th) and Matt Leinart (10th) never developed into franchise QBs. It's too early to tell how good Darnold will be. If he's the next great QB we might have missed a trick by not selecting him, I guess if he develops into a middle of the pack QB and Barkley is a bust then we might have missed a trick by not selecting him, but let's wait and see. 3. Now I would have kept Davis Webb on our roster, but we are not the first team to show a former draft pick from the year before the door. This is one of those moves which will either come back to bite us on the ass because our front office made a mistake getting rid, or our front office will be vindicated if Webb is cut sometime down the line by them. 4. Josh McCown is a good QB to have as their backup and it was smart business bringing him back. So well done to the Jets for the Bridgewater deal, being ambitious and getting their new starting QB, and bringing back Josh McCown to back him up. But as nice as these moves are right now they are not guaranteed to bring them any success, we'll have to wait and see what happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 11:43:25 GMT -5
Nobody knows that Darnold is "the real deal" until he actually plays in NFL games that count! Why do people keep insisting on putting the cart before the horse with rookie QB's, when every one of them that ever ended up going bust all looked golden before imploding at the NFL level! He could very well be as good as advertised, or be just another QB phenom the NFL chews up and spits out. I agree a person can only call RBs selected near the top of the draft as being "the real deal"!!! Forget all that real experience being required... |
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 4, 2018 12:20:02 GMT -5
The Jets do give off the appearance of being run by professionals for a change. My Jets fan friends should be pretty happy; I hope they do well.
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Post by goldenratio on Sept 4, 2018 12:44:28 GMT -5
did the jets have to give 3 first round picks to go get sam darnold? would they have been better off sitting tight and grabbing rosen at the 6 overall spot? But nobody knows for sure. 3 second round picks in what may turn out to be a historically deep and talented draft class, is a steep price to have paid. Is the bump from rosen to darnold worth it? just posing the question for discussion. I think they probably made the right move, because i like darnolds mobility over rosen's pocket passer style, and was concerned about rosen's fragile health, but who knows? i think they could not risk losing their guy at 6 and had to move up to insure they got a guy, ultimately. But in hindsight, would they have been better off with rosen and the picks?
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 4, 2018 13:33:06 GMT -5
They should hire Jerry reese.....That will get them moving in the right direction again....
I don't like the Jets out maneuvering us one bit.
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 4, 2018 13:39:00 GMT -5
And in the end, the Jets are the Jets or should I say , the JESTS, they'll mess this all up somehow, someway, it's what they do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 14:12:57 GMT -5
did the jets have to give 3 first round picks to go get sam darnold? would they have been better off sitting tight and grabbing rosen at the 6 overall spot? But nobody knows for sure. 3 second round picks in what may turn out to be a historically deep and talented draft class, is a steep price to have paid. Is the bump from rosen to darnold worth it? just posing the question for discussion. I think they probably made the right move, because i like darnolds mobility over rosen's pocket passer style, and was concerned about rosen's fragile health, but who knows? i think they could not risk losing their guy at 6 and had to move up to insure they got a guy, ultimately. But in hindsight, would they have been better off with rosen and the picks? Rosen > Darnold |
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