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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 17, 2020 11:13:45 GMT -5
www.bigblueview.com/2020/10/17/21517825/ny-giants-saturday-scouting-report-gregory-rousseau-edge-miami-alabama-georgiaAlabama/Georgia... But so torn on Rousseau..... I think as usual Chris has his measurable wrong because he is south of 240... But so freaking frustrating...he is like a small foward in body type ..... He puts on 20 lbs of muscle(at 20 that's easy).... But .....he needed this year to develop more moves and use them in game situations.. He won last year on freak raw athletic ability alone...... Will not work in the NFL..and picking him top 5 you can't have a raw developmental project that you have no idea how will develop...my fear is with our luck he uses all of our time developing and becomes a beast with the team he signs with after walking from us ..
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Post by fifthavephil on Oct 17, 2020 12:24:15 GMT -5
Read the article. he seems to be a hand in ground player.
Mario Williams, seems like a comparison.
He is only 20yrs old and is a work in progress.
I would not gamble on him with a high draft pick, unless we trade down and accumulate extra picks.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 13, 2021 8:58:57 GMT -5
Could be in play at 11. I wouldn't be upset at all New York Giants Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami-FL* The Giants managed 40 sacks this season, thanks in large part to Leonard Williams bouncing back and getting 11.5 of them. But few would argue against the Giants needing edge-rushing help to take a much-improved defense to the next level, particularly if they don’t return Williams, who played this season on the franchise tag. Rousseau opted out this season, but he had 15.5 sacks for the Hurricanes in 2019 and has speed and power coming around the corner. Alternatively, offensive line, wide receiver or cornerback could be areas to keep an eye on for New York. “Then again, the next Chase Young could be: Miami’s Gregory Rousseau.. What Young just did (21.5 TFLs, 16.5 sacks, three pass breakups and seven forced fumbles) sets an incredibly high bar for a redshirt sophomore, but look at what Rousseau accomplished during his first full season at Miami: 15.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss, team-high seven quarterback hurries, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery. His sacks total ties for second in team history, and his tackles for loss total marks the highest at Miami since 2006. A repeat performance or one with even better numbers will make a jump to the NFL a virtual certainty. Rousseau even has a similar frame to Young at 6-foot-7 and 253 pounds. www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/12/new-york-giants-being-linked-to-the-next-chase-young-in-the-2021-draft/ |
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Post by TEM on Jan 13, 2021 9:19:57 GMT -5
IDK . He had 1 NCAA season. At 11 that is a hard case to sell . I would doubt he would be ready for the NFL day one. A top 20 pick . You better be.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 13, 2021 9:58:22 GMT -5
IDK . He had 1 NCAA season. At 11 that is a hard case to sell . I would doubt he would be ready for the NFL day one. A top 20 pick . You better be. My thoughts Exactly Yet the OMG WE NEED AN EDGE RUSHER..DRAFT HIM YOU STOOOOOPID IMGRATE crowd has already started their rhetoric |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 13, 2021 10:37:27 GMT -5
The #11 pick might come down to either Rouseau or one of the top CB's ? Dallas has this choice just in front of us at #10. I would expect Dallas to grab Rouseau at #10 if he's there. Don't think Rouseau reaches us, but of course there's still a 100 days or so before the draft. Opinions will change 100 times.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 13, 2021 20:57:53 GMT -5
IDK . He had 1 NCAA season. At 11 that is a hard case to sell . I would doubt he would be ready for the NFL day one. A top 20 pick . You better be. My thoughts Exactly Yet the OMG WE NEED AN EDGE RUSHER..DRAFT HIM YOU STOOOOOPID IMGRATE crowd has already started their rhetoric You need to take a deep breath man. You get too razzled about the WR stuff. Yes we need a WR. We also need a pass rusher. Im on board with him at 11 if Chase and Smith are gone which they most likely will be. Rousseau was beast in 2019. JPP was a raw athletic rusher just like him. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 13, 2021 21:11:18 GMT -5
My thoughts Exactly Yet the OMG WE NEED AN EDGE RUSHER..DRAFT HIM YOU STOOOOOPID IMGRATE crowd has already started their rhetoric You need to take a deep breath man. You get too razzled about the WR stuff. Yes we need a WR. We also need a pass rusher. Im on board with him at 11 if Chase and Smith are gone which they most likely will be. Rousseau was beast in 2019. JPP was a raw athletic rusher just like him. That is a good point. If things stayed after FA as they are now, I would be fine with a WR ILB OLB or a Corner |
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 18, 2021 6:02:37 GMT -5
Could be in play at 11. I wouldn't be upset at all New York Giants Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami-FL* The Giants managed 40 sacks this season, thanks in large part to Leonard Williams bouncing back and getting 11.5 of them. But few would argue against the Giants needing edge-rushing help to take a much-improved defense to the next level, particularly if they don’t return Williams, who played this season on the franchise tag. Rousseau opted out this season, but he had 15.5 sacks for the Hurricanes in 2019 and has speed and power coming around the corner. Alternatively, offensive line, wide receiver or cornerback could be areas to keep an eye on for New York. “Then again, the next Chase Young could be: Miami’s Gregory Rousseau.. What Young just did (21.5 TFLs, 16.5 sacks, three pass breakups and seven forced fumbles) sets an incredibly high bar for a redshirt sophomore, but look at what Rousseau accomplished during his first full season at Miami: 15.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss, team-high seven quarterback hurries, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery. His sacks total ties for second in team history, and his tackles for loss total marks the highest at Miami since 2006. A repeat performance or one with even better numbers will make a jump to the NFL a virtual certainty. Rousseau even has a similar frame to Young at 6-foot-7 and 253 pounds. www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/12/new-york-giants-being-linked-to-the-next-chase-young-in-the-2021-draft/I’ve only watched about 5 mins of his snaps so far. I definitely don’t see anything like Chase Young. I see a guy that sets the edge and contains well, rushes with discipline. I could see him being in play at 11 as well and think he’s the type of defensive player Judge/Graham would like. I’m still bummed for Carter with his Achilles, was really hoping it all came together this year for him. |
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 18, 2021 6:04:00 GMT -5
The #11 pick might come down to either Rouseau or one of the top CB's ? Dallas has this choice just in front of us at #10. I would expect Dallas to grab Rouseau at #10 if he's there. Don't think Rouseau reaches us, but of course there's still a 100 days or so before the draft. Opinions will change 100 times. I don’t know if I like Surtain that much, he seems a bit too grabby |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 18, 2021 6:58:05 GMT -5
www.bigblueview.com/2020/10/17/21517825/ny-giants-saturday-scouting-report-gregory-rousseau-edge-miami-alabama-georgiaAlabama/Georgia... But so torn on Rousseau..... I think as usual Chris has his measurable wrong because he is south of 240... But so freaking frustrating...he is like a small foward in body type ..... He puts on 20 lbs of muscle(at 20 that's easy).... But .....he needed this year to develop more moves and use them in game situations.. He won last year on freak raw athletic ability alone...... Will not work in the NFL..and picking him top 5 you can't have a raw developmental project that you have no idea how will develop...my fear is with our luck he uses all of our time developing and becomes a beast with the team he signs with after walking from us .. Haven’t seen anywhere that he is south of 240. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 18, 2021 7:07:48 GMT -5
www.bigblueview.com/2020/10/17/21517825/ny-giants-saturday-scouting-report-gregory-rousseau-edge-miami-alabama-georgiaAlabama/Georgia... But so torn on Rousseau..... I think as usual Chris has his measurable wrong because he is south of 240... But so freaking frustrating...he is like a small foward in body type ..... He puts on 20 lbs of muscle(at 20 that's easy).... But .....he needed this year to develop more moves and use them in game situations.. He won last year on freak raw athletic ability alone...... Will not work in the NFL..and picking him top 5 you can't have a raw developmental project that you have no idea how will develop...my fear is with our luck he uses all of our time developing and becomes a beast with the team he signs with after walking from us .. Haven’t seen anywhere that he is south of 240. I have no idea where I got that from ...can't remember that far back |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 18, 2021 7:50:14 GMT -5
The thing with Rousseau is that he may be raw and have only one big year as a starter, but without those question marks there is no way that he makes it near 11.
In other words, we don’t get a guy like this without taking a bit of a leap of faith ....
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 18, 2021 9:03:13 GMT -5
The thing with Rousseau is that he may be raw and have only one big year as a starter, but without those question marks there is no way that he makes it near 11. In other words, we don’t get a guy like this without taking a bit of a leap of faith .... I compare making a pick like this to when Dan Bigelow(Robert Wagner)tried to run though a wall of fire hoping to get the fire department to get his woman.. There is a small chance he gets through witb just a few singes..... Or he ends up like how Dan Bigelow ended up..... For reference |
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Post by piddy283 on Jan 18, 2021 9:15:34 GMT -5
I was actually about to make a thread about this kid, glad folks are discussing him. Rousseau has been mocked to us recently so I decided to take a quick look, and I liked what I saw. I didn't realize the film was from 2019 until I read a quick overview of him, but his numbers were fantastic. Him being so raw, and not playing in 2020, is a concern for me. At 11, I'd hope for someone with a little more on field production. The site I read had him as the 28th prospect. Is there a chance he falls to the 2nd round? thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 18, 2021 9:20:59 GMT -5
I was actually about to make a thread about this kid, glad folks are discussing him. Rousseau has been mocked to us recently so I decided to take a quick look, and I liked what I saw. I didn't realize the film was from 2019 until I read a quick overview of him, but his numbers were fantastic. Him being so raw, and not playing in 2020, is a concern for me. At 11, I'd hope for someone with a little more on field production. The site I read had him as the 28th prospect. Is there a chance he falls to the 2nd round? thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankingsI think a lot may depend on how he looks when teams finally see him. Is he out of shape? Is he in really good shape? What did he do during the college season? What did he work on? |
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 18, 2021 9:57:34 GMT -5
Remember Bobby Rousseau of the Rangers back in the 70's?
Always loved that guy.
Just sayin'..........
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 18, 2021 12:25:37 GMT -5
Could be in play at 11. I wouldn't be upset at all New York Giants Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami-FL* The Giants managed 40 sacks this season, thanks in large part to Leonard Williams bouncing back and getting 11.5 of them. But few would argue against the Giants needing edge-rushing help to take a much-improved defense to the next level, particularly if they don’t return Williams, who played this season on the franchise tag. Rousseau opted out this season, but he had 15.5 sacks for the Hurricanes in 2019 and has speed and power coming around the corner. Alternatively, offensive line, wide receiver or cornerback could be areas to keep an eye on for New York. “Then again, the next Chase Young could be: Miami’s Gregory Rousseau.. What Young just did (21.5 TFLs, 16.5 sacks, three pass breakups and seven forced fumbles) sets an incredibly high bar for a redshirt sophomore, but look at what Rousseau accomplished during his first full season at Miami: 15.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss, team-high seven quarterback hurries, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery. His sacks total ties for second in team history, and his tackles for loss total marks the highest at Miami since 2006. A repeat performance or one with even better numbers will make a jump to the NFL a virtual certainty. Rousseau even has a similar frame to Young at 6-foot-7 and 253 pounds. www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/12/new-york-giants-being-linked-to-the-next-chase-young-in-the-2021-draft/I’ve only watched about 5 mins of his snaps so far. I definitely don’t see anything like Chase Young. I see a guy that sets the edge and contains well, rushes with discipline. I could see him being in play at 11 as well and think he’s the type of defensive player Judge/Graham would like. I’m still bummed for Carter with his Achilles, was really hoping it all came together this year for him. Definitely not Chase Young. Which is why he could be there at 11. Think more of a JPP imo. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 18, 2021 13:12:21 GMT -5
The #11 pick might come down to either Rouseau or one of the top CB's ? Dallas has this choice just in front of us at #10. I would expect Dallas to grab Rouseau at #10 if he's there. Don't think Rouseau reaches us, but of course there's still a 100 days or so before the draft. Opinions will change 100 times. I don’t know if I like Surtain that much, he seems a bit too grabby Your probably right I hadn't really noticed that. Everybody just looks so damn good at Bama.
Guess we'll learn a little more at the combine and see which CB's are placed where as the so called brain powers rate them.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 18, 2021 13:22:45 GMT -5
I was actually about to make a thread about this kid, glad folks are discussing him. Rousseau has been mocked to us recently so I decided to take a quick look, and I liked what I saw. I didn't realize the film was from 2019 until I read a quick overview of him, but his numbers were fantastic. Him being so raw, and not playing in 2020, is a concern for me. At 11, I'd hope for someone with a little more on field production. The site I read had him as the 28th prospect. Is there a chance he falls to the 2nd round? thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankingsI think a lot may depend on how he looks when teams finally see him. Is he out of shape? Is he in really good shape? What did he do during the college season? What did he work on? I'm not sure I would take him or one of those CB's or if one of the WR's is available but I certainly wouldn't mind drafting another JPP. If the others are gone …... |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 18, 2021 19:17:07 GMT -5
The #11 pick might come down to either Rouseau or one of the top CB's ? Dallas has this choice just in front of us at #10. I would expect Dallas to grab Rouseau at #10 if he's there. Don't think Rouseau reaches us, but of course there's still a 100 days or so before the draft. Opinions will change 100 times. I don’t know if I like Surtain that much, he seems a bit too grabby I'm interested in another NFL players son in the 2-3 rounds if we don't have a corner by then familiar name |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 18, 2021 20:17:09 GMT -5
The thing with Rousseau is that he may be raw and have only one big year as a starter, but without those question marks there is no way that he makes it near 11. In other words, we don’t get a guy like this without taking a bit of a leap of faith .... Exactly right. He puts up a second year with 15+ sacks and 19+ TFL and the guy is a top 5 pick and the first defender off the board.
The more I watch these guys and the more I think about it if the top 3 WRs are gone Rousseau looks very tempting. Not sure where Parsons will go either but Rousseau has to be on our board. As for him being ready to play. It's not like he is trying to beat out an All Star crew here. I bet he gets playing time right away and it increases as time goes on.
I also think a guy like this could dominate with our big DTs playing out there. We don't need JJ Watt, just someone with decent skills and I think this kid has it. I prefer him over Paye. Rousseau is 260 pounds and every scouting report I have read says that he is build for a multiple front and can rush from the interior and exterior. Sounds like a guy our coaches would love.
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 24, 2021 1:37:31 GMT -5
The more I watch of Rousseau or Paye, the less I want them in blue....
Im sticking to my guns, Hamilcar Rashed Jr as my top pass rusher in the draft
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