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Post by TCHOF on Jan 13, 2021 14:20:03 GMT -5
So if Chase, Waddle and Smith are gone before our pick, who would you like/hate with our pick?
Like:
CB (definitely a need - don't know enough yet to distinguish between Farley and Surtain).
Rashawn Slater - versatile OL and our OL was a problem yet again last year.
Kyle Pitts - Don't generally like taking TE's this high, but this guy seems like a real weapon that could help DJ's development.
Hate:
Not sure that I know enough at this point to "hate" a potential pick at #11, but Rousseau makes be nervous.
Also wouldn't be wild about Kwity Paye.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 14, 2021 0:42:32 GMT -5
Pat Surtain II unless he isn't a sub 4.5 at the combine
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 14, 2021 8:43:56 GMT -5
If PS-II is still on the boards under this scenario, he would be very difficult to pass over.
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Post by Merc on Jan 14, 2021 11:59:20 GMT -5
Kyle Pitts would definitely be my pick.
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 14, 2021 17:24:34 GMT -5
any receiver who can spread the field and make the catch is what I want to see us take in this draft....
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 14, 2021 17:46:49 GMT -5
I like Surtain, Parsons and Rousseau.
I don't like Paye.
Uncertain about Pitts, leaning toward like.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 14, 2021 17:57:02 GMT -5
If PS-II is still on the boards under this scenario, he would be very difficult to pass over. He won't make it past Dallas |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 14, 2021 17:58:01 GMT -5
Don't like any edge rusher
Parsons
Pitts...
Uurgh ..
Pray that Zevon Collins shoots up everyone's boards?
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Post by TEM on Jan 14, 2021 18:00:06 GMT -5
Surtain, Collins, trade down. I am not sold on Rousseau,
No D-line .Bad Draft class in the 1st 2rounds.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 14, 2021 18:21:14 GMT -5
Surtain, Collins, trade down. I am not sold on Rousseau, No D-line .Bad Draft class in the 1st 2rounds. Honestly O line could ironically be best vald by far.... Why not A guy like Leatherwood could move inside |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 15, 2021 12:36:52 GMT -5
The idea of drafting Pitts is growing on me based upon the scouting reports I am hearing/seeing on him.
I resisted the idea at first, because we need a playmaking receiver and so I was focused on the WR position only. Starting to think that I was being too myopic since this guy would clearly be a playmaking receiving threat.
This guy is a true matchup nightmare (not like our current fake matchup nightmare). A 6'6" receiving threat who creates separation, has great hands and ball skills, and can line up at TE, in the slot, outside ... all over the field. Who is going to cover this guy on defense? Most LB's won't be able to cover him. He will have a huge size advantage over most CB's and safeties. He could be the security blanket to Jones that Plaxico was to Eli.
So I'm starting to think of him more as a much-needed offensive weapon than just a TE.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 15, 2021 15:09:51 GMT -5
The idea of drafting Pitts is growing on me based upon the scouting reports I am hearing/seeing on him. I resisted the idea at first, because we need a playmaking receiver and so I was focused on the WR position only. Starting to think that I was being too myopic since this guy would clearly be a playmaking receiving threat. This guy is a true matchup nightmare (not like our current fake matchup nightmare). A 6'6" receiving threat who creates separation, has great hands and ball skills, and can line up at TE, in the slot, outside ... all over the field. Who is going to cover this guy on defense? Most LB's won't be able to cover him. He will have a huge size advantage over most CB's and safeties. He could be the security blanket to Jones that Plaxico was to Eli. So I'm starting to think of him more as a much-needed offensive weapon than just a TE. Found this very interesting and informative.
Don't know many college players and rely on others who have seen them until the combine arrives and these players are getting grades. Then I usually find highlights of players. I really just get to see players on real good teams from TV, that leaves a lot of players I've never watched.
Actually Pitts does sound like a heck of a weapon. Would not be upset if we drafted him. But I' would be leaning toward the CB position I believe. Surtain I think is our first choice just based on my personal viewing cause I have watched Bama maybe 4-5 times this season. But Farley is supposed to be right there as well. Lets see how the teams rate these guys. But as little as I know I think these 2 are right at the top.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 15, 2021 15:16:04 GMT -5
The idea of drafting Pitts is growing on me based upon the scouting reports I am hearing/seeing on him. I resisted the idea at first, because we need a playmaking receiver and so I was focused on the WR position only. Starting to think that I was being too myopic since this guy would clearly be a playmaking receiving threat. This guy is a true matchup nightmare (not like our current fake matchup nightmare). A 6'6" receiving threat who creates separation, has great hands and ball skills, and can line up at TE, in the slot, outside ... all over the field. Who is going to cover this guy on defense? Most LB's won't be able to cover him. He will have a huge size advantage over most CB's and safeties. He could be the security blanket to Jones that Plaxico was to Eli. So I'm starting to think of him more as a much-needed offensive weapon than just a TE. Found this very interesting and informative.
Don't know many college players and rely on others who have seen them until the combine arrives and these players are getting grades. Then I usually find highlights of players. I really just get to see players on real good teams from TV, that leaves a lot of players I've never watched.
Actually Pitts does sound like a heck of a weapon. But I' would be leaning toward the CB position I believe. Surtain I think is our first choice just based on my personal viewing cause I have watched Bama maybe 4-5 times this season. But Farley is supposed to be right there as well. Lets see how the teams rate these guys. But as little as I know I think these 2 are right at the top.
I wouldn't have an issue if we went CB (unless DaVonta was on the board!) |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 15, 2021 16:53:48 GMT -5
we can't continue to draft CBs high in every draft, right now we need quality WRs and have for too long...
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 15, 2021 17:05:27 GMT -5
LIKE;
TE Kyle Pitts
LB Micah Parsons
CB Patrick Surtain
CB Caleb Farley
CB Jaycee Horn
I know its unrealistic, but OT Penei Sewell
DISLIKE;
DE Kwitty Paye
EDGE Greg Rousseau
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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 15, 2021 17:43:27 GMT -5
At #11 : 1a). D. Smith
1b) P. Surtain
1c) Trade Down
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 15, 2021 18:08:25 GMT -5
I like Pitts the most out of the prospects most likely to be available. I'd prefer Pitts over Waddle too. There is a chance Waddle turns into a Tyreek Hill type but looks like a boom or bust WR. I'd go with Smith, Chase, and then Pitts in that order as of now.
1 - Pitts
2 - Surtain - I've been hearing he lacks great speed and twitch but the same as been said about Bradberry and he's a Pro Bowler.
3 - Rosseau - Looks like a JPP type, versatile lineman, don't think that's what we need at the moment though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 9:10:38 GMT -5
Parsons is the elite pick on the defense...but don't be surprised if we take a 4th WR at 11 if the others are gone as our need for one could have us reach for a scouting favorite....
Believe there is gonna be four to six QB's taken in the 1st round...supply and demand gonna explode this year and gonna be lot's of moving and trading up.
What WR?
Let's see how some of the larger outs do at the combine....can see the Giants going WR in round 1...and 2.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2021 9:47:02 GMT -5
Parsons is the elite pick on the defense...but don't be surprised if we take a 4th WR at 11 if the others are gone as our need for one could have us reach for a scouting favorite.... Believe there is gonna be four to six QB's taken in the 1st round...supply and demand gonna explode this year and gonna be lot's of moving and trading up. What WR? Let's see how some of the larger outs do at the combine....can see the Giants going WR in round 1...and 2. I don’t see us taking a WR at 11 not named Chase, Smith or Waddle. If we are hell-bent on taking a receiving weapon at 11 even with those 3 gone, then I think that Pitts is a more likely pick than the 4th-ranked WR |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 10:26:10 GMT -5
Parsons is the elite pick on the defense...but don't be surprised if we take a 4th WR at 11 if the others are gone as our need for one could have us reach for a scouting favorite.... Believe there is gonna be four to six QB's taken in the 1st round...supply and demand gonna explode this year and gonna be lot's of moving and trading up. What WR? Let's see how some of the larger outs do at the combine....can see the Giants going WR in round 1...and 2. I don’t see us taking a WR at 11 not named Chase, Smith or Waddle. If we are hell-bent on taking a receiving weapon at 11 even with those 3 gone, then I think that Pitts is a more likely pick than the 4th-ranked WR Watched a lot of Pitts this year...kid can catch. Does not drop anything and runs superb routes...no problems taking him. Keep an eye out for Terrace Marshall Jr. at the combines...6'4 inch, 4.5 speed 5 star recruit from LSU...I believe he might be WR4 and "possibly" on the Giants radar.  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 16, 2021 14:28:45 GMT -5
I don’t see us taking a WR at 11 not named Chase, Smith or Waddle. If we are hell-bent on taking a receiving weapon at 11 even with those 3 gone, then I think that Pitts is a more likely pick than the 4th-ranked WR Watched a lot of Pitts this year...kid can catch. Does not drop anything and runs superb routes...no problems taking him. Keep an eye out for Terrace Marshall Jr. at the combines...6'4 inch, 4.5 speed 5 star recruit from LSU...I believe he might be WR4 and "possibly" on the Giants radar. I actually think Olave is the guy that flies up boards |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 16, 2021 14:59:22 GMT -5
Found this very interesting and informative.
Don't know many college players and rely on others who have seen them until the combine arrives and these players are getting grades. Then I usually find highlights of players. I really just get to see players on real good teams from TV, that leaves a lot of players I've never watched.
Actually Pitts does sound like a heck of a weapon. But I' would be leaning toward the CB position I believe. Surtain I think is our first choice just based on my personal viewing cause I have watched Bama maybe 4-5 times this season. But Farley is supposed to be right there as well. Lets see how the teams rate these guys. But as little as I know I think these 2 are right at the top.
I wouldn't have an issue if we went CB (unless DaVonta was on the board!) Oh yea if Smith is there I want him too. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 16, 2021 23:01:52 GMT -5
I don’t see us taking a WR at 11 not named Chase, Smith or Waddle. If we are hell-bent on taking a receiving weapon at 11 even with those 3 gone, then I think that Pitts is a more likely pick than the 4th-ranked WR Watched a lot of Pitts this year...kid can catch. Does not drop anything and runs superb routes...no problems taking him. Keep an eye out for Terrace Marshall Jr. at the combines...6'4 inch, 4.5 speed 5 star recruit from LSU...I believe he might be WR4 and "possibly" on the Giants radar. I would take Pitts if Chase and Smith were gone. Agree 100% he is technically sound great hands great route runner, Judge has seen what having 2 mix and match TEs can do. They can add a WR later I have a gut feeling Pitts isn't gonna be there tho. |
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Post by bavarobeast on Jan 24, 2021 11:32:35 GMT -5
Pitts - I’ve watched a lot of him. He’s pretty close to can’t miss. I want Smith but he will probably be gone.
I’m a Michigan fan. I don’t want Paye - at all.
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 24, 2021 16:05:59 GMT -5
Micah Parsons, there is a chance he'd be there for us at 11, wouldn't mind an athletic freak on D
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 2, 2021 20:54:30 GMT -5
Pretty much decided that if the 3 recievers and Pitts is gone
Break glass in case of emergency and grab the highest rated O lineman on the board
Figure out where he plays the best....get the best 5 on the field
Now with a lot of depth and possible future starters...
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 3, 2021 10:20:58 GMT -5
drafting Evan Engram in round one and seeing the results has turned me off on drafting TEs that high...but I could make an exception if we decided on Kyle Pitts who actually reminds me a little of Travis Kelce ...
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Post by Kase1 on Feb 3, 2021 17:43:51 GMT -5
Pretty much decided that if the 3 recievers and Pitts is gone Break glass in case of emergency and grab the highest rated O lineman on the board Figure out where he plays the best....get the best 5 on the field Now with a lot of depth and possible future starters... How u got em ranked after The Samoan Tsunami Penei Sewell |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 4, 2021 6:30:43 GMT -5
Pretty much decided that if the 3 recievers and Pitts is gone Break glass in case of emergency and grab the highest rated O lineman on the board Figure out where he plays the best....get the best 5 on the field Now with a lot of depth and possible future starters... How u got em ranked after The Samoan Tsunami Penei Sewell Just starting to do some research on these guys right now TBH because I didn't consider any 0f them a possibility till recently when I started seeing the 3 WRw and Pitts gone early,and I took Parsons off my board. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 4, 2021 7:46:02 GMT -5
How u got em ranked after The Samoan Tsunami Penei Sewell Just starting to do some research on these guys right now TBH because I didn't consider any 0f them a possibility till recently when I started seeing the 3 WRw and Pitts gone early,and I took Parsons off my board. Was it something in Parsons play, or the reports of off field problems that soured you on him? |
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