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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 6:34:50 GMT -5
Penn State 6'5 250-260 LBS EDGE Ran a 4.33 40  Yes, he will be the combine freak, the Montez Sweat this year I don't expect that number, but he is the biggest freak athlete this year...broad jumps over 10 feet?  Are we interested?  |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 16, 2021 7:18:34 GMT -5
Ive been mocking him to us in the 2nd round. I really like this guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 8:16:38 GMT -5
Ive been mocking him to us in the 2nd round. I really like this guy. Haha...we might one day be saying, he's the Jayson Oweh of tight ends. I'm one of those fans of pure raw athletic ability....a bad habit if you pass the intangibles and actual skills, but once in a while you do get it right and a JPP emerges. I'm sure his name will be mentioned quite a bit by Rich Eisen as we get closer to the combine...and as Giant fans looking for a 3-4 edge, he has me intrigued Watching his video, and he's raw....and still learning the game How raw? Well, as raw as this dead whale being dynamited into sushi projectiles ... that 70's blow...don't know how football prospect searching got me here, but thank God it did.  |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 16, 2021 8:26:17 GMT -5
Ive been mocking him to us in the 2nd round. I really like this guy. Haha...we might one day be saying, he's the Jayson Oweh of tight ends. I'm one of those fans of pure raw athletic ability....a bad habit if you pass the intangibles and actual skills, but once in a while you do get it right and a JPP emerges. I'm sure his name will be mentioned quite a bit by Rich Eisen as we get closer to the combine...and as Giant fans looking for a 3-4 edge, he has me intrigued Watching his video, and he's raw....and still learning the game How raw? Well, as raw as this dead whale being dynamited into sushi projectiles ... that 70's blow...don't know how football prospect searching got me here, but thank God it did. Whales are mammals, wouldn't it be steak tar tar projectiles, to be technical? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 8:43:04 GMT -5
Haha...we might one day be saying, he's the Jayson Oweh of tight ends. I'm one of those fans of pure raw athletic ability....a bad habit if you pass the intangibles and actual skills, but once in a while you do get it right and a JPP emerges. I'm sure his name will be mentioned quite a bit by Rich Eisen as we get closer to the combine...and as Giant fans looking for a 3-4 edge, he has me intrigued Watching his video, and he's raw....and still learning the game How raw? Well, as raw as this dead whale being dynamited into sushi projectiles ... that 70's blow...don't know how football prospect searching got me here, but thank God it did. Whales are mammals, wouldn't it be steak tar tar projectiles, to be technical? Hey, don't go all Debbie Downer on my whale exploding on TV video... haha, a piece of sushi/mammal steak crushing that car/priceless. That reporting was genius...so deadpan and sarcastic ... well done real news. Still, I wonder...how does a search for Jayson Oweh 40 video get me there? Sure, I watch street fight knockouts, and deserved motorcycle crashes, but exploding fish?...excuse, mammal? This internet now knowing what it thinks I will like, and getting it right?...freaky. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 16, 2021 8:43:55 GMT -5
IMO he is a good athlete but lacks talent. He doesn't sack anyone. This is the description of a 4th- 7th round player.
Jayson Oweh projects as a developmental edge defender at the pro level. With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame. But any team drafting Oweh early is going to have to do so with the understanding that there’s probably going to be an incubation period before he enters the NFL and becomes the pass rusher he’s capable of being—this is a redshirt sophomore who played in just 20 collegiate football games and needs to mature both technically and physically before taking on a high volume of snaps. Oweh’s athletic ability will grant him sporadic reps, even as a rookie, to serve as a designated pass rusher, but I wouldn’t advocate for a high workload on early downs until he’s more filled out with his frame. Oweh is lean and can give up valuable real estate as a run defender; he’s lacking in the core and lower-body power to hold ground and stack up tackles. If you’re looking for a silver lining in his early-down role, he’ll win from wide angles and he has the functional athleticism in space to play as a 3-4 outside linebacker for any team looking to call upon his skills as more of a raw athlete.thedraftnetwork.com/player/jayson-oweh/38nrjazkIZWe have 6 picks . IMO: We do not have the picks to use on a project with a high draft pick. These are not the stats of a Potential 10 sack NFL Edge rusher. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 8:58:42 GMT -5
IMO he is a good athlete but lacks talent. He doesn't sack anyone. This is the description of a 4th- 7th round player.
Jayson Oweh projects as a developmental edge defender at the pro level. With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame. But any team drafting Oweh early is going to have to do so with the understanding that there’s probably going to be an incubation period before he enters the NFL and becomes the pass rusher he’s capable of being—this is a redshirt sophomore who played in just 20 collegiate football games and needs to mature both technically and physically before taking on a high volume of snaps. Oweh’s athletic ability will grant him sporadic reps, even as a rookie, to serve as a designated pass rusher, but I wouldn’t advocate for a high workload on early downs until he’s more filled out with his frame. Oweh is lean and can give up valuable real estate as a run defender; he’s lacking in the core and lower-body power to hold ground and stack up tackles. If you’re looking for a silver lining in his early-down role, he’ll win from wide angles and he has the functional athleticism in space to play as a 3-4 outside linebacker for any team looking to call upon his skills as more of a raw athlete.thedraftnetwork.com/player/jayson-oweh/38nrjazkIZWe have 6 picks . IMO: We do not have the picks to use on a project with a high draft pick. These are not the stats of a Potential 10 sack NFL Edge rusher. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.htmlNot a good athlete...a freakish one. I'll let the NY giant scouts figure his upside out, as the numbers are not quite there "yet"....and the question being how long is the "yet" if there even is a "yet", and how high can the "yet" go. I don't see a 4-7 on him though...the position value and athletic abilities will probably get him to the 2nd round...and we know how some scouts and GM's are when it comes to raw athletic ability....mistake or not, you can't teach pure athleticism. I'd probably pass on him as well... |
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Post by Nite on Jan 16, 2021 8:59:52 GMT -5
Ive been mocking him to us in the 2nd round. I really like this guy. Haha...we might one day be saying, he's the Jayson Oweh of tight ends. I'm one of those fans of pure raw athletic ability....a bad habit if you pass the intangibles and actual skills, but once in a while you do get it right and a JPP emerges. I'm sure his name will be mentioned quite a bit by Rich Eisen as we get closer to the combine...and as Giant fans looking for a 3-4 edge, he has me intrigued Watching his video, and he's raw....and still learning the game How raw? Well, as raw as this dead whale being dynamited into sushi projectiles ... that 70's blow...don't know how football prospect searching got me here, but thank God it did. Its a whale of a story....
Who doesn't like exploding whales?
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Post by TEM on Jan 16, 2021 9:02:53 GMT -5
IMO he is a good athlete but lacks talent. He doesn't sack anyone. This is the description of a 4th- 7th round player.
Jayson Oweh projects as a developmental edge defender at the pro level. With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame. But any team drafting Oweh early is going to have to do so with the understanding that there’s probably going to be an incubation period before he enters the NFL and becomes the pass rusher he’s capable of being—this is a redshirt sophomore who played in just 20 collegiate football games and needs to mature both technically and physically before taking on a high volume of snaps. Oweh’s athletic ability will grant him sporadic reps, even as a rookie, to serve as a designated pass rusher, but I wouldn’t advocate for a high workload on early downs until he’s more filled out with his frame. Oweh is lean and can give up valuable real estate as a run defender; he’s lacking in the core and lower-body power to hold ground and stack up tackles. If you’re looking for a silver lining in his early-down role, he’ll win from wide angles and he has the functional athleticism in space to play as a 3-4 outside linebacker for any team looking to call upon his skills as more of a raw athlete.thedraftnetwork.com/player/jayson-oweh/38nrjazkIZWe have 6 picks . IMO: We do not have the picks to use on a project with a high draft pick. These are not the stats of a Potential 10 sack NFL Edge rusher. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.htmlNot a good athlete...a freakish one. I'll let the NY giant scouts figure his upside out, as the numbers are not quite there "yet"....and the question being how long is the "yet" if there even is a "yet", and how high can the "yet" go. I don't see a 4-7 on him though...the position value and athletic abilities will probably get him to the 2nd round...and we know how some scouts and GM's are when it comes to raw athletic ability....mistake or not, you can't teach pure athleticism. I'd probably pass on him as well... Agreed. This saying has to go with that. You cannot teach talent either. This is the problem with pure Athletes that cannot play football. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 16, 2021 9:44:56 GMT -5
Not a good athlete...a freakish one. I'll let the NY giant scouts figure his upside out, as the numbers are not quite there "yet"....and the question being how long is the "yet" if there even is a "yet", and how high can the "yet" go. I don't see a 4-7 on him though...the position value and athletic abilities will probably get him to the 2nd round...and we know how some scouts and GM's are when it comes to raw athletic ability....mistake or not, you can't teach pure athleticism. I'd probably pass on him as well... Agreed. This saying has to go with that. You cannot teach talent either. This is the problem with pure Athletes that cannot play football. as we found out while JR was running the drafts. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 19, 2021 12:09:44 GMT -5
Penn State 6'5 250-260 LBS EDGE Ran a 4.33 40 Yes, he will be the combine freak, the Montez Sweat this year I don't expect that number, but he is the biggest freak athlete this year...broad jumps over 10 feet? Are we interested? What did he do on the field. That is one of the difference between their front office and the last. 1 liked the winner of the undies olympics or combine hero. The other looks for production on the field. You watch a lot of college where is he projected to go and what is he as a player. Give to me straight Aris. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 19, 2021 12:21:30 GMT -5
Ive been mocking him to us in the 2nd round. I really like this guy. Haha...we might one day be saying, he's the Jayson Oweh of tight ends. I'm one of those fans of pure raw athletic ability....a bad habit if you pass the intangibles and actual skills, but once in a while you do get it right and a JPP emerges. I'm sure his name will be mentioned quite a bit by Rich Eisen as we get closer to the combine...and as Giant fans looking for a 3-4 edge, he has me intrigued Watching his video, and he's raw....and still learning the game How raw? Well, as raw as this dead whale being dynamited into sushi projectiles ... that 70's blow...don't know how football prospect searching got me here, but thank God it did. LOL I did my mini research project on our lad Jayson Oweh think a 3rd round selection would work not enough production for a 1st or 2nd but enough promise for a 3rd or 4th. He's the kind of kid that will be on someones roster in 3 or 4 years they will be talking about what a great bargain he was in the 4th or 3rd round lol. That is if he learns how to use his god given Athletic ability. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 19, 2021 12:37:22 GMT -5
IMO he is a good athlete but lacks talent. He doesn't sack anyone. This is the description of a 4th- 7th round player.
Jayson Oweh projects as a developmental edge defender at the pro level. With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame. But any team drafting Oweh early is going to have to do so with the understanding that there’s probably going to be an incubation period before he enters the NFL and becomes the pass rusher he’s capable of being—this is a redshirt sophomore who played in just 20 collegiate football games and needs to mature both technically and physically before taking on a high volume of snaps. Oweh’s athletic ability will grant him sporadic reps, even as a rookie, to serve as a designated pass rusher, but I wouldn’t advocate for a high workload on early downs until he’s more filled out with his frame. Oweh is lean and can give up valuable real estate as a run defender; he’s lacking in the core and lower-body power to hold ground and stack up tackles. If you’re looking for a silver lining in his early-down role, he’ll win from wide angles and he has the functional athleticism in space to play as a 3-4 outside linebacker for any team looking to call upon his skills as more of a raw athlete.thedraftnetwork.com/player/jayson-oweh/38nrjazkIZWe have 6 picks . IMO: We do not have the picks to use on a project with a high draft pick. These are not the stats of a Potential 10 sack NFL Edge rusher. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.htmlNot a good athlete...a freakish one. I'll let the NY giant scouts figure his upside out, as the numbers are not quite there "yet"....and the question being how long is the "yet" if there even is a "yet", and how high can the "yet" go. I don't see a 4-7 on him though...the position value and athletic abilities will probably get him to the 2nd round...and we know how some scouts and GM's are when it comes to raw athletic ability....mistake or not, you can't teach pure athleticism. I'd probably pass on him as well... Even Ximenes had production this kid is gonna turn into something but who knows what JPP had production. If JR gets a job this kid is his kind of guy and I get the thinking coaches get paid a ton to develop these kids, with the rules as they are development is harder and harder to do. Joe Judge would be the right kind of coach for him tho. Still 3rd or 4th is best I would do. There are guys who produce at a high level in college and get schooled as pro's and fail. If we learned anything as Giants fans just because you can run fast jump high doesn't mean you can play NFL football at a high level. For every JPP there 9 JPP of tightends. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 19, 2021 17:05:45 GMT -5
I prefer my dude Hamilcar Rashed Jr from Oregon St
Hamilcar Rashed Jr. aligns as an EDGE defender for the Beavers defense. He demonstrates good athleticism in his ability to play on his feet and also to rush off the edge. His mobility and flexibility afford him the versatility to be used all over the defensive front. He demonstrates his explosion as a chase player on the backside of run plays and he plays the game with a relentless motor. He is raw as a pass rusher and needs to refine his overall technique and hand usage. This will only maximize his natural athleticism and make him more effective regardless of the opponent.
Ideal Role: Sub-package edge rusher who could develop into an NFL starter for some teams with time and pro coaching.
Scheme Fit: Odd front defensive scheme with hybrid principles in sub-package situations
2018 Stats; 53 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 2.5 sacks
2019 Stats; 62 tackles, 22.5 TFL, 14 sacks
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 19, 2021 19:21:16 GMT -5
I prefer my dude Hamilcar Rashed Jr from Oregon St Hamilcar Rashed Jr. aligns as an EDGE defender for the Beavers defense. He demonstrates good athleticism in his ability to play on his feet and also to rush off the edge. His mobility and flexibility afford him the versatility to be used all over the defensive front. He demonstrates his explosion as a chase player on the backside of run plays and he plays the game with a relentless motor. He is raw as a pass rusher and needs to refine his overall technique and hand usage. This will only maximize his natural athleticism and make him more effective regardless of the opponent.
Ideal Role: Sub-package edge rusher who could develop into an NFL starter for some teams with time and pro coaching.
Scheme Fit: Odd front defensive scheme with hybrid principles in sub-package situations 2018 Stats; 53 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 2.5 sacks 2019 Stats; 62 tackles, 22.5 TFL, 14 sacks Now thats a fit |
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 20, 2021 6:09:42 GMT -5
I prefer my dude Hamilcar Rashed Jr from Oregon St Hamilcar Rashed Jr. aligns as an EDGE defender for the Beavers defense. He demonstrates good athleticism in his ability to play on his feet and also to rush off the edge. His mobility and flexibility afford him the versatility to be used all over the defensive front. He demonstrates his explosion as a chase player on the backside of run plays and he plays the game with a relentless motor. He is raw as a pass rusher and needs to refine his overall technique and hand usage. This will only maximize his natural athleticism and make him more effective regardless of the opponent.
Ideal Role: Sub-package edge rusher who could develop into an NFL starter for some teams with time and pro coaching.
Scheme Fit: Odd front defensive scheme with hybrid principles in sub-package situations 2018 Stats; 53 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 2.5 sacks 2019 Stats; 62 tackles, 22.5 TFL, 14 sacks In those clips it looks like he has good eyes and some nice speed rushing the passer. Looks quite undersized though. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2021 16:56:34 GMT -5
I prefer my dude Hamilcar Rashed Jr from Oregon St Hamilcar Rashed Jr. aligns as an EDGE defender for the Beavers defense. He demonstrates good athleticism in his ability to play on his feet and also to rush off the edge. His mobility and flexibility afford him the versatility to be used all over the defensive front. He demonstrates his explosion as a chase player on the backside of run plays and he plays the game with a relentless motor. He is raw as a pass rusher and needs to refine his overall technique and hand usage. This will only maximize his natural athleticism and make him more effective regardless of the opponent.
Ideal Role: Sub-package edge rusher who could develop into an NFL starter for some teams with time and pro coaching.
Scheme Fit: Odd front defensive scheme with hybrid principles in sub-package situations 2018 Stats; 53 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 2.5 sacks 2019 Stats; 62 tackles, 22.5 TFL, 14 sacks In those clips it looks like he has good eyes and some nice speed rushing the passer. Looks quite undersized though. Hamilcar Rashed; 6'4, 236lb Leonard Floyd; 6'5, 240lb Roquan Smith; 6'1, 229lb Hasson Reddick; 6'1, 235lb Yannick Ngakoue; 6'2, 246lb Devin White; 6'1, 237lb I dont really see a problem here, I DEF would not call him 'quite undersized' though |
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 20, 2021 17:34:40 GMT -5
In those clips it looks like he has good eyes and some nice speed rushing the passer. Looks quite undersized though. Hamilcar Rashed; 6'4, 236lb Leonard Floyd; 6'5, 240lb Roquan Smith; 6'1, 229lb Hasson Reddick; 6'1, 235lb Yannick Ngakoue; 6'2, 246lb Devin White; 6'1, 237lb I dont really see a problem here, I DEF would not call him 'quite undersized' though I really didn't think he had that much weight on him. I honestly thought he looked like a big safety. |
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