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Post by 80sdreincarnate on Jan 24, 2021 8:15:08 GMT -5
This may be the craziest QB offseason in league history.
You've got Brees & Rivers 2 HOFers retiring, I expected Ben would as well, but looks like it's heading towards him playing.
You've got Stafford, Ryan, and Watson on the trade block.
And you're gonna have 4-5 Round 1 QBs drafted and those picks could make guys like Darnold available depending on who goes where.
In regards to the vets my guess to where they end up:
Matt Ryan back with Shanahan in SF Jimmy G back with Belichick & McDaniels in NE Stafford I lean Indy, think Saints could emerge in that hunt Watson if he ends up being traded Jets, just seems like a fit from a pick & cap standpoint for the Jets and Harden is luring him to "want" NY
Above would put Jags, Houston(via Jets), Falcons, and Lions in the QB market in the top 7. More QBs that go the better for us at 11.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2021 22:34:08 GMT -5
Absolutely great prognosis for QB carousel. Can't wait it is exciting for me as a football fan. To me Stafford and Indy are perfect for one another waiting to happen. Stafford on a good team for the first time in his career can't wait to see how good both can become.
But you are correct N.O. would be a great fit for Stafford as well. All depends on which team will give the Lions the best deal.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 25, 2021 8:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 25, 2021 18:44:46 GMT -5
Seems to be some smoke Rodgers could end up in this thread
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Post by GameTime on Jan 25, 2021 18:50:36 GMT -5
Stafford only 32. Thought he was several years older than that. Dak has worked hard that would be a slap in the face but its all business
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Post by Nite on Jan 26, 2021 8:53:20 GMT -5
Rumors has it that Rodgers is unhappy in Packerland, could make a move to Indy and if Jerrah is desperate enough (uhh nevermind he is not that crazy) maybe going to NE...Imagine pairing AR with BB? ha ha ha ha har de har ha haaaaaa.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2021 13:09:11 GMT -5
Stafford only 32. Thought he was several years older than that. Dak has worked hard that would be a slap in the face but its all business I thought he was too,he came out early we forgot I thought he was Ryan's age
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2021 13:11:14 GMT -5
Rumors has it that Rodgers is unhappy in Packerland, could make a move to Indy and if Jerrah is desperate enough (uhh nevermind he is not that crazy) maybe going to NE...Imagine pairing AR with BB? ha ha ha ha har de har ha haaaaaa. Rodgers will never play for McCarthy ever again so that fear won't happen What would Belichick be willing to give up though.. Good chance they also sign Lazzard then so he has a guy he is familiar with
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 27, 2021 7:32:09 GMT -5
Rumors has it that Rodgers is unhappy in Packerland, could make a move to Indy and if Jerrah is desperate enough (uhh nevermind he is not that crazy) maybe going to NE...Imagine pairing AR with BB? ha ha ha ha har de har ha haaaaaa. Rodgers will never play for McCarthy ever again so that fear won't happen What would Belichick be willing to give up though.. Good chance they also sign Lazzard then so he has a guy he is familiar with Maybe Rodgers would be better playing for a defensive background HC, so he could detach himself somewhat from the offensive decision making friction he seems to create. I would usually say no player can question the coach, but his on field decision making is why he is able to do the things he does - and the team he's been on really hasn't offered anything else to him for ensuring success.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 27, 2021 11:04:31 GMT -5
Rodgers will never play for McCarthy ever again so that fear won't happen What would Belichick be willing to give up though.. Good chance they also sign Lazzard then so he has a guy he is familiar with Maybe Rodgers would be better playing for a defensive background HC, so he could detach himself somewhat from the offensive decision making friction he seems to create. I would usually say no player can question the coach, but his on field decision making is why he is able to do the things he does - and the team he's been on really hasn't offered anything else to him for ensuring success. Yeah, poor him. 14-2 another playoff loss and it’s everybody els’s fault again. Nobody ever does enough. The Packers absolutely need to do much more, so much more for him. The poor guy hasn’t ever been given a chance at all. Maybe he just needs even more around him.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 27, 2021 11:57:39 GMT -5
Maybe Rodgers would be better playing for a defensive background HC, so he could detach himself somewhat from the offensive decision making friction he seems to create. I would usually say no player can question the coach, but his on field decision making is why he is able to do the things he does - and the team he's been on really hasn't offered anything else to him for ensuring success. Yeah, poor him. 14-2 another playoff loss and it’s everybody els’s fault again. Nobody ever does enough. The Packers absolutely need to do much more, so much more for him. The poor guy hasn’t ever been given a chance at all. Maybe he just needs even more around him. 13-3
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 27, 2021 12:36:02 GMT -5
Yeah, poor him. 14-2 another playoff loss and it’s everybody els’s fault again. Nobody ever does enough. The Packers absolutely need to do much more, so much more for him. The poor guy hasn’t ever been given a chance at all. Maybe he just needs even more around him. 13-3 That is quite different. Double the reinforcements.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 27, 2021 13:48:29 GMT -5
Maybe Rodgers would be better playing for a defensive background HC, so he could detach himself somewhat from the offensive decision making friction he seems to create. I would usually say no player can question the coach, but his on field decision making is why he is able to do the things he does - and the team he's been on really hasn't offered anything else to him for ensuring success. Yeah, poor him. 14-2 another playoff loss and it’s everybody els’s fault again. Nobody ever does enough. The Packers absolutely need to do much more, so much more for him. The poor guy hasn’t ever been given a chance at all. Maybe he just needs even more around him. hee hee
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 27, 2021 18:07:34 GMT -5
Stafford only 32. Thought he was several years older than that. Dak has worked hard that would be a slap in the face but its all business GT, The famous line from the "Godfather" "It's nothing personal, it's just business"
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Post by GameTime on Jan 27, 2021 18:09:03 GMT -5
Stafford only 32. Thought he was several years older than that. Dak has worked hard that would be a slap in the face but its all business GT, The famous line from the "Godfather" "It's nothing personal, it's just business" Big D may whack Dak.....
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 28, 2021 9:30:24 GMT -5
Now I'm seeing Beiber(Goff) could be traded (flashed on ESPN )??
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 28, 2021 12:08:34 GMT -5
Now I'm seeing Beiber(Goff) could be traded (flashed on ESPN )?? I guess sometimes even in the NFL irrational markets eventually adjust. Is Bubby Brister available?
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 28, 2021 12:09:19 GMT -5
Now I'm seeing Beiber(Goff) could be traded (flashed on ESPN )?? I guess sometimes even in the NFL irrational markets eventually adjust. Is Bubby Brister available? This offseason is going go be insane
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 28, 2021 12:11:53 GMT -5
I guess sometimes even in the NFL irrational markets eventually adjust. Is Bubby Brister available? This offseason is going go be insane Must be a planetary alignment or something this year, good QBs are never available.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 30, 2021 15:24:15 GMT -5
According to my NFL app Stafford could be "moved" before the Super Bowl (not officially till tbe start of the new year in March)
Wonder who made this move
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 30, 2021 16:54:36 GMT -5
Seems to be some smoke Rodgers could end up in this thread Rodgers is a good QB who is nearing the end of his playing days, he still has gas in the tank but maybe not as much as he had, smart GMs know when the time is right to get the most for a player...
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Post by te88 on Jan 30, 2021 22:03:21 GMT -5
According to my NFL app Stafford could be "moved" before the Super Bowl (not officially till tbe start of the new year in March) Wonder who made this move Stafford to Rams for Goff and 2 1s and a 3. Source: Schefter
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 30, 2021 22:31:29 GMT -5
According to my NFL app Stafford could be "moved" before the Super Bowl (not officially till tbe start of the new year in March) Wonder who made this move Stafford to Rams for Goff and 2 1s and a 3. Source: Schefter What? The compensation makes zero sense for the Rams Goff has upside still .... If Detroit gets that haul for Stafford the Rams GM must be fired immediately
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Post by te88 on Jan 31, 2021 7:18:48 GMT -5
Stafford to Rams for Goff and 2 1s and a 3. Source: Schefter What? The compensation makes zero sense for the Rams Goff has upside still .... If Detroit gets that haul for Stafford the Rams GM must be fired immediately I don’t really see it that way. Goff kinda stinks and is expensive. Stafford still has plenty of career left and is a much better QB. Injuries are the concern but he is one of the toughest players in the league. They want to win now while they have Donald and Ramsey. And yes this is confirmed. All over the news
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Post by 80sdreincarnate on Jan 31, 2021 9:47:20 GMT -5
I see it as a great trade for the Rams. Does it guarantee them a SB? No, but they have a 5 year window at the very least. Stafford turns 33 in a week. There is no reason to think his age 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 seasons are not top of the line. And given recent history he can very well keep it going into his 40s. He should take a lot less contact in McVay's offense. They'll get him a lot of easy throws and mix in his downfield ability. I think they will get back to their power run element as well, Akers came on strong late.
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 31, 2021 10:32:25 GMT -5
I see it as a great trade for the Rams. Does it guarantee them a SB? No, but they have a 5 year window at the very least. Stafford turns 33 in a week. There is no reason to think his age 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 seasons are not top of the line. And given recent history he can very well keep it going into his 40s. He should take a lot less contact in McVay's offense. They'll get him a lot of easy throws and mix in his downfield ability. I think they will get back to their power run element as well, Akers came on strong late. High price but thats what happens when you put a ring on a very unworthy finger. They get out from under that contract AND get Stafford. Gutty move by the Rams. It will be interesting to watch Stafford now, who I have always thought was better than what he could show in Detroit.
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Post by 80sdreincarnate on Jan 31, 2021 10:42:11 GMT -5
I see it as a great trade for the Rams. Does it guarantee them a SB? No, but they have a 5 year window at the very least. Stafford turns 33 in a week. There is no reason to think his age 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 seasons are not top of the line. And given recent history he can very well keep it going into his 40s. He should take a lot less contact in McVay's offense. They'll get him a lot of easy throws and mix in his downfield ability. I think they will get back to their power run element as well, Akers came on strong late. High price but thats what happens when you put a ring on a very unworthy finger. They get out from under that contract AND get Stafford. Gutty move by the Rams. It will be interesting to watch Stafford now, who I have always thought was better than what he could show in Detroit. I'm a big fan of Stafford, Lions have not put a team around him since early in his career when he was a bit immature. I think this is a perfect fit for him and at the perfect time. Rams have all the elements in place. Strong D, running game, QB friendly offense. I have expected Matt Ryan to end up in SF, have not seen that materialize in real rumors to this point, but if they get him that division will be very interesting. The young QBs are all in the AFC, it's smart for NFC teams to look to "go for it" over the next few years. The teams at the top of the line in the NFC will have 44 and 39 year old QBs next year. Shocked Washington could not top this offer. Lions must like Goff is the only explanation.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 31, 2021 11:41:53 GMT -5
I see it as a great trade for the Rams. Does it guarantee them a SB? No, but they have a 5 year window at the very least. Stafford turns 33 in a week. There is no reason to think his age 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 seasons are not top of the line. And given recent history he can very well keep it going into his 40s. He should take a lot less contact in McVay's offense. They'll get him a lot of easy throws and mix in his downfield ability. I think they will get back to their power run element as well, Akers came on strong late. If they don’t win a championship in the remaining window of Stafford’s career it is would be very very hard to sell the idea that it was a good trade.
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Post by 80sdreincarnate on Jan 31, 2021 12:22:46 GMT -5
I see it as a great trade for the Rams. Does it guarantee them a SB? No, but they have a 5 year window at the very least. Stafford turns 33 in a week. There is no reason to think his age 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 seasons are not top of the line. And given recent history he can very well keep it going into his 40s. He should take a lot less contact in McVay's offense. They'll get him a lot of easy throws and mix in his downfield ability. I think they will get back to their power run element as well, Akers came on strong late. If they don’t win a championship in the remaining window of Stafford’s career it is would be very very hard to sell the idea that it was a good trade. What did they really give up? A QB they soured on and 2 later Round 1s. If you look at the history of round 1 picks in the range where they dealt, the bust rate is probably 50%. So they'd have wasted 1 pick anyway. And the other guy will likely range from starter-good player. So they get Stafford for a strong 5 year window and miss out on 1 potentially good player who would not have even been on their team until 2022 or 2023? I love go for it moves. And the Rams were in a go for it spot with where their roster is at. Only 1 team can win the SB, they will be SB contenders for the next several years. Being one of those teams is what it's all about. The rest of the league is just playing for tomorrow and tomorrow often never comes.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 31, 2021 15:00:02 GMT -5
If they don’t win a championship in the remaining window of Stafford’s career it is would be very very hard to sell the idea that it was a good trade. What did they really give up? A QB they soured on and 2 later Round 1s. If you look at the history of round 1 picks in the range where they dealt, the bust rate is probably 50%. So they'd have wasted 1 pick anyway. And the other guy will likely range from starter-good player. So they get Stafford for a strong 5 year window and miss out on 1 potentially good player who would not have even been on their team until 2022 or 2023? I love go for it moves. And the Rams were in a go for it spot with where their roster is at. Only 1 team can win the SB, they will be SB contenders for the next several years. Being one of those teams is what it's all about. The rest of the league is just playing for tomorrow and tomorrow often never comes. They gave up two 1st-round draft picks (2022 & 2023), a 3rd-rounder (2021), and QB Jared Goff. As I said it's an all in or bust move. I like it, but it's a championship or a failure, There may be an in between but I'm guessing that would be a very, very long story.
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