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Post by piddy283 on Apr 6, 2021 19:42:23 GMT -5
Well, I didn't think there were many scenarios that would leave me upset, but Mike Tannenbaum found one.
According to Mike T., the Giants will pass on players like Kyle Pitts, Devonta Smith, and AVT, and will draft Azeez Ojulari (Edge - UGA) at #11. I'm sure Azeez is a nice player, but if this scenario played out I'll need to buy a new TV because I will throw my remote through it. Pitts and Smith look to be potential unicorns, and AVT offers the versatility our OL needs.
I hope this fool Mike T. didn't put some bad juju in the air.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 6, 2021 20:29:39 GMT -5
Well, I didn't think there were many scenarios that would leave me upset, but Mike Tannenbaum found one. According to Mike T., the Giants will pass on players like Kyle Pitts, Devonta Smith, and AVT, and will draft Azeez Ojulari (Edge - UGA) at #11. I'm sure Azeez is a nice player, but if this scenario played out I'll need to buy a new TV because I will throw my remote through it. Pitts and Smith look to be potential unicorns, and AVT offers the versatility our OL needs. I hope this fool Mike T. didn't put some bad juju in the air. People are morons There is a reason he is an X GM without a job as well |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 6, 2021 20:43:33 GMT -5
Well, I didn't think there were many scenarios that would leave me upset, but Mike Tannenbaum found one. According to Mike T., the Giants will pass on players like Kyle Pitts, Devonta Smith, and AVT, and will draft Azeez Ojulari (Edge - UGA) at #11. I'm sure Azeez is a nice player, but if this scenario played out I'll need to buy a new TV because I will throw my remote through it. Pitts and Smith look to be potential unicorns, and AVT offers the versatility our OL needs. I hope this fool Mike T. didn't put some bad juju in the air. People are morons There is a reason he is an X GM without a job as well He also thinks the Panthers should draft a QB to compete with Darnold. I can understand the concept, but if you just traded away future draft capital for Darnold why not surround him with weapons and give him some help? |
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Post by TEM on Apr 7, 2021 7:15:19 GMT -5
People are morons There is a reason he is an X GM without a job as well . I can understand the concept, but if you just traded away future draft capital for Darnold why not surround him with weapons and give him some help? With Bridgewater on the Roster? Darnold is 5 million. Bridgewater Is 18 has 20 million in dead cap. The are going to Draft a QB @ 4 million If Rhule does this. He is a an idiot |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 7, 2021 7:16:05 GMT -5
unless we trade down, I will not be pleased if we take any defensive player.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 7, 2021 7:55:28 GMT -5
He also thinks the Panthers should draft a QB to compete with Darnold. I can understand the concept, but if you just traded away future draft capital for Darnold why not surround him with weapons and give him some help? With Bridgewater on the Roster? Darnold is 5 million. Bridgewater Is 18 has 20 million in dead cap. The are going to Draft a QB @ 4 million If Rhule does this. He is a an idiot I think Mike T. mentioned they would've traded Bridgewater in this scenario. Again, I get the thought process and the concept in certain scenarios, but I don't think this is one of those scenarios. Not to talk Panthers, but they need to fix the OL and give Darnold time to throw. If he doesn't work out, draft a QB in a year or two. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 7, 2021 8:06:57 GMT -5
unless we trade down, I will not be pleased if we take any defensive player. While I prefer offense in Rd1 this year, I'd be stoked with Parsons or Surtain. I think both would have an immediate impact on the field. I'm always a fan of trading down, though. Unless Chase, Pitts, or Smith....maybe Waddle....fall to us at #11 trading down might be the best scenario for us. I can see it happening if Fields or Jones falls to us. At this point, I've decided to remove Parsons supposed off-field issues when considering my "big board." As someone else mentioned in another thread, it's on the Team to figure out if there's an ounce of truth to the speculations, not mine. If there is any truth to them, he doesn't just fall out of the first round, he falls completely off the board. All I can do from my couch is watch some of his highlights. From what I see he'd be a fantastic fit in our defense. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 7, 2021 8:21:28 GMT -5
With Bridgewater on the Roster? Darnold is 5 million. Bridgewater Is 18 has 20 million in dead cap. The are going to Draft a QB @ 4 million If Rhule does this. He is a an idiot I think Mike T. mentioned they would've traded Bridgewater in this scenario. Again, I get the thought process and the concept in certain scenarios, but I don't think this is one of those scenarios. Not to talk Panthers, but they need to fix the OL and give Darnold time to throw. If he doesn't work out, draft a QB in a year or two. Or a weapon like Pitts |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 7, 2021 8:23:04 GMT -5
unless we trade down, I will not be pleased if we take any defensive player. While I prefer offense in Rd1 this year, I'd be stoked with Parsons or Surtain. I think both would have an immediate impact on the field. I'm always a fan of trading down, though. Unless Chase, Pitts, or Smith....maybe Waddle....fall to us at #11 trading down might be the best scenario for us. I can see it happening if Fields or Jones falls to us. At this point, I've decided to remove Parsons supposed off-field issues when considering my "big board." As someone else mentioned in another thread, it's on the Team to figure out if there's an ounce of truth to the speculations, not mine. If there is any truth to them, he doesn't just fall out of the first round, he falls completely off the board. All I can do from my couch is watch some of his highlights. From what I see he'd be a fantastic fit in our defense. Trade down a bit and get Zevon Collins Litterally the same player,same athletic ability in an old school linebacker body,going to graduate as a medical school guy..... |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 7, 2021 8:34:55 GMT -5
While I prefer offense in Rd1 this year, I'd be stoked with Parsons or Surtain. I think both would have an immediate impact on the field. I'm always a fan of trading down, though. Unless Chase, Pitts, or Smith....maybe Waddle....fall to us at #11 trading down might be the best scenario for us. I can see it happening if Fields or Jones falls to us. At this point, I've decided to remove Parsons supposed off-field issues when considering my "big board." As someone else mentioned in another thread, it's on the Team to figure out if there's an ounce of truth to the speculations, not mine. If there is any truth to them, he doesn't just fall out of the first round, he falls completely off the board. All I can do from my couch is watch some of his highlights. From what I see he'd be a fantastic fit in our defense. Trade down a bit and get Zevon Collins Litterally the same player,same athletic ability in an old school linebacker body,going to graduate as a medical school guy..... I actually just put Collins on my big board this weekend. I had him has a Rd2/Rd3 based on the sites I saw, but someone else mentioned he was going to go mid-Rd1. I'd be just fine with Collins, on paper they do seem very similar. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 12:24:37 GMT -5
Daniel Jeremiah has us Smith bound at 11...both tackles, Sewell and Slater gone. Interesting that he had both Waddle and Smith available ...Waddle fell a bit.  Tough choice with Waddle and Smith... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 7, 2021 12:34:57 GMT -5
Daniel Jeremiah has us Smith bound at 11...both tackles, Sewell and Slater gone. Interesting that he had both Waddle and Smith available ...Waddle fell a bit. Tough choice with Waddle and Smith... I honestly don't think there would be a bad choice between the 2 Someone posted that Smith was indeed a track star in HS so this corresponds to the eyeball test of him looking like playing at a different speed than the defense even though any knowledge of his 40 time is like Bigfoot sigbgings.. I suspect a 4.43 or something.. That with his 99.9% route running ability and post catch ability =ODB type production I actually saw a more fitting comparison to Smith Issac Bruce... Yeah I'll take that as a Y opposite Golladay that can be moved around like a chess piece every day of the week if this is what we do |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 7, 2021 12:48:11 GMT -5
Daniel Jeremiah has us Smith bound at 11...both tackles, Sewell and Slater gone. Interesting that he had both Waddle and Smith available ...Waddle fell a bit. Tough choice with Waddle and Smith... I honestly don't think there would be a bad choice between the 2 Someone posted that Smith was indeed a track star in HS so this corresponds to the eyeball test of him looking like playing at a different speed than the defense even though any knowledge of his 40 time is like Bigfoot sigbgings.. I suspect a 4.43 or something.. That with his 99.9% route running ability and post catch ability =ODB type production I actually saw a more fitting comparison to Smith Issac Bruce... Yeah I'll take that as a Y opposite Golladay that can be moved around like a chess piece every day of the week if this is what we do between the 2, I prefer Smith, but like last year with the OT's, I'd be plenty happy with Waddle instead. I would pick Chase over either, but think he'll be the first off the boards. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Apr 7, 2021 13:44:44 GMT -5
Listening to guy from Landryfootball.com on the Chuck Oliver show.
He says theres 54 players with 2nd round grades. So many teams picking deep into the 3rd including the giants will be getting a good 2nd round type player
He went on futher to say that its a deep draft and picking in 7th will be many guys with 4th round grades
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Post by Miked1958 on Apr 7, 2021 13:45:24 GMT -5
Listening to guy from Landryfootball.com on the Chuck Oliver show.
He says theres 54 players with 2nd round grades. So many teams picking deep into the 3rd including the giants will be getting a good 2nd round type player
He went on futher to say that its a deep draft and picking in 7th will be many guys with 4th round grades
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Post by TEM on Apr 7, 2021 16:23:36 GMT -5
With Bridgewater on the Roster? Darnold is 5 million. Bridgewater Is 18 has 20 million in dead cap. The are going to Draft a QB @ 4 million If Rhule does this. He is a an idiot I think Mike T. mentioned they would've traded Bridgewater in this scenario. Again, I get the thought process and the concept in certain scenarios, but I don't think this is one of those scenarios. Not to talk Panthers, but they need to fix the OL and give Darnold time to throw. If he doesn't work out, draft a QB in a year or two. His contract is too big for a backup. IMO he isn't going anywhere. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 7, 2021 17:08:45 GMT -5
I think Mike T. mentioned they would've traded Bridgewater in this scenario. Again, I get the thought process and the concept in certain scenarios, but I don't think this is one of those scenarios. Not to talk Panthers, but they need to fix the OL and give Darnold time to throw. If he doesn't work out, draft a QB in a year or two. His contract is too big for a backup. IMO he isn't going anywhere. Are you referring to Bridgewater? I tend to agree. I don't think they'll draft a QB, so I believe Bridgewater will remain on the roster and, if anything, will be traded later in the year when a playoff contending team's QB goes down with injury. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 7, 2021 18:20:48 GMT -5
Listening to guy from Landryfootball.com on the Chuck Oliver show. He says theres 54 players with 2nd round grades. So many teams picking deep into the 3rd including the giants will be getting a good 2nd round type player He went on futher to say that its a deep draft and picking in 7th will be many guys with 4th round grades he knows this despite a season with fewer reps and opt outs? If 54 players have a 2nd grade and 7th Rounders have 4th Round grades guess what? There will be many teams trading back. And when they don’t, grade his perceptions 😂 |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 7, 2021 18:31:14 GMT -5
Daniel Jeremiah has us Smith bound at 11...both tackles, Sewell and Slater gone. Interesting that he had both Waddle and Smith available ...Waddle fell a bit. Tough choice with Waddle and Smith... I was actually going to start a thread to see who folks would want between Waddle and Smith. When it comes to the Big4, Waddle has been at the bottom of my list all off-season. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact there are so many examples of speed reliant WR's flopping in the NFL. The fact he's speed reliant coming off a serious ankle injury makes it all the more concerning for me. That said, the idea of having Waddle's speed on our offense to stretch the defense and compliment Barkley is really exciting.....in concept. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Apr 8, 2021 7:19:30 GMT -5
Listening to guy from Landryfootball.com on the Chuck Oliver show. He says theres 54 players with 2nd round grades. So many teams picking deep into the 3rd including the giants will be getting a good 2nd round type player He went on futher to say that its a deep draft and picking in 7th will be many guys with 4th round grades he knows this despite a season with fewer reps and opt outs? If 54 players have a 2nd grade and 7th Rounders have 4th Round grades guess what? There will be many teams trading back. And when they don’t, grade his perceptions 😂 Hey dont kill the messenger lol. Just posting what he was talking about |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 9:33:01 GMT -5
Some of you are really going to be disappointed come draft day when we trade back to 15 and take Kwitty Paye. Should make for some entertaining reading.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 8, 2021 9:36:34 GMT -5
Daniel Jeremiah has us Smith bound at 11...both tackles, Sewell and Slater gone. Interesting that he had both Waddle and Smith available ...Waddle fell a bit. Tough choice with Waddle and Smith... I was actually going to start a thread to see who folks would want between Waddle and Smith. When it comes to the Big4, Waddle has been at the bottom of my list all off-season. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact there are so many examples of speed reliant WR's flopping in the NFL. The fact he's speed reliant coming off a serious ankle injury makes it all the more concerning for me. That said, the idea of having Waddle's speed on our offense to stretch the defense and compliment Barkley is really exciting.....in concept. I like Smith. And I think he could very well be there at #11. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 8, 2021 9:44:38 GMT -5
I was actually going to start a thread to see who folks would want between Waddle and Smith. When it comes to the Big4, Waddle has been at the bottom of my list all off-season. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact there are so many examples of speed reliant WR's flopping in the NFL. The fact he's speed reliant coming off a serious ankle injury makes it all the more concerning for me. That said, the idea of having Waddle's speed on our offense to stretch the defense and compliment Barkley is really exciting.....in concept. I like Smith. And I think he could very well be there at #11. Agreed, I think I'm falling into the over-analyzing thing because of his weight.......dude looks better than eveyrone on the field everytime he plays. I'd be completely content drafting him. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 10:14:41 GMT -5
I like Smith. And I think he could very well be there at #11. Agreed, I think I'm falling into the over-analyzing thing because of his weight.......dude looks better than eveyrone on the field everytime he plays. I'd be completely content drafting him. We could go Smith in the first, then take Tutu Atwell in the second...145-151 pounds playing weight...create more religion and faith among Giant fans as we learn to pray after every crossing pattern catch...kneeling a Tebow for no cheerleaders on the sideline to hurt our slim Jim's in unexpected collisions. 150 pounds and 165 pounds....and we still don't have a 320 pound offensive guard for the right side.  |
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 8, 2021 10:39:51 GMT -5
Some of you are really going to be disappointed come draft day when we trade back to 15 and take Kwitty Paye. Should make for some entertaining reading. I actually would be ok with that if we picked up at least another second rounder. I would be bummed if we took an Edge at 11 though ... just don't see how an Edge could be the BPA at that spot |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 8, 2021 10:56:18 GMT -5
Agreed, I think I'm falling into the over-analyzing thing because of his weight.......dude looks better than eveyrone on the field everytime he plays. I'd be completely content drafting him. We could go Smith in the first, then take Tutu Atwell in the second...145-151 pounds playing weight...create more religion and faith among Giant fans as we learn to pray after every crossing pattern catch...kneeling a Tebow for no cheerleaders on the sideline to hurt our slim Jim's in unexpected collisions. 150 pounds and 165 pounds....and we still don't have a 320 pound offensive guard for the right side. The fact you mentioned Slim Jim's is hilarious to me. My father worked with a snacking company back in his day, and one of their many products was Slim Jim's. I used to eat them by the pound. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 8, 2021 11:59:15 GMT -5
he knows this despite a season with fewer reps and opt outs? If 54 players have a 2nd grade and 7th Rounders have 4th Round grades guess what? There will be many teams trading back. And when they don’t, grade his perceptions 😂 Hey dont kill the messenger lol. Just posting what he was talking about It's a knock on the speaker, not you Mike. Let's see if he's correct or as delusional as these past fellas who make the same claims. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 12:29:57 GMT -5
Some of you are really going to be disappointed come draft day when we trade back to 15 and take Kwitty Paye. Should make for some entertaining reading. I actually would be ok with that if we picked up at least another second rounder. I would be bummed if we took an Edge at 11 though ... just don't see how an Edge could be the BPA at that spot Me too. I think Waddle, Smith and Mack Jones will all be there at 11. There will be numerous offers. Hope Getty listens to them. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 8, 2021 12:47:56 GMT -5
I actually would be ok with that if we picked up at least another second rounder. I would be bummed if we took an Edge at 11 though ... just don't see how an Edge could be the BPA at that spot Me too. I think Waddle, Smith and Mack Jones will all be there at 11. There will be numerous offers. Hope Getty listens to them. I would take Waddle or Smith over a trade down, unless it was Herschel Walkerseque. In a really evil scenario where each of the big 3 WR's are gone, as well as Pitts, Slater and one or two other O Linemen, I would want to trade down, over any of the defensive players on the board. Parsons could be a very good player, but that off the field stuff scares me, and after signing Jackson, PS II would be a luxury pick. I'm also not a big fan of the pool of edge prospects this year, poorest that I can remember. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 8, 2021 13:12:46 GMT -5
Me too. I think Waddle, Smith and Mack Jones will all be there at 11. There will be numerous offers. Hope Getty listens to them. I would take Waddle or Smith over a trade down, unless it was Herschel Walkerseque. In a really evil scenario where each of the big 3 WR's are gone, as well as Pitts, Slater and one or two other O Linemen, I would want to trade down, over any of the defensive players on the board. Parsons could be a very good player, but that off the field stuff scares me, and after signing Jackson, PS II would be a luxury pick. I'm also not a big fan of the pool of edge prospects this year, poorest that I can remember. Well We are going go have to draft someone ... In that case I'd reach slightly for an O lineman |
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