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Post by SemperFi on Apr 15, 2021 12:43:16 GMT -5
"but no cigar "... I see "  "as a guy smokin' a cigar. A little sensitive? I picked Smith because he is another weapon for DJ. Pure and simple. Sensitive? No. Just didn't understand the terminology. (See "What does that even mean?) I'm on my phone and it doesn't show the emoji. It just says " " Understood. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2021 13:12:28 GMT -5
Parsons would be great, but no cigar!
We need to solidify DJ. We need to give him the highest probability of success THIS season. Oline or WR in the first. If WR then Oline in the second. Then maybe go pass rusher in the 3rd if there is someone who can compete this year.
Our defense does not need Parsons to get us into the playoffs this year. Our offense needs the best DJ can give us to go 11 - 6. No contest IMO.
I appreciate that everyone here is an expert on what we NEED, but " "? What does that even mean? It's been a cliche as long as I can remember but, there is a reason for it. "Great defenses win championships." I don't think Parsons will be there at 11, but having him on this defense would make us feared. When was the last time anyone feared a Giants defense? We can still get a good WR later in the draft. That is a fact that is proven every year. Slater will also not be there at 11. After him, no other OL is worth going that high. There will be a playmaker at 11 that other teams will covet. We can trade down and still get a very versatile pass rusher in Paye. 9 of the last 11 super bowls were won by teams with both top 10 offense and a top 10 defense... It's not 1990 anymore where a great defense can carry a team and the offense's job is just don't mess up and score one more point than the other team We arguably have a top 10 defense Our offense still needs help on the line And at WR... |
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 15, 2021 13:18:17 GMT -5
If you look at the advanced stats he only missed 5 tackles out of 59. Pretty good percentage. I don't know what you see or if you watch Cardinals games. Maybe you saw a highlight of him getting burned and made assumptions. I know he played better toward the end of the season than he did in the beginning. Sacks, ints, pass defensed, hurries, tfls, knockdown, tackles, pressures. The kid can do it all and he is just beginning. I guess since you doubled down he is not a good player you only see the bad things. We got just as good value with Crowder at Mr Irrelevant with the same upside Would you still take Simmons over Thomas in a retract? I sure as hell wouldn't I think you a slowly backing away from your original comment where you said Simmons was useless. I proved he wasn't in the 7 games he played. I am not going to get into who's better between him Thomas and Crowder as they are rookies. They all have their roles and still learning their roles. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2021 13:30:54 GMT -5
We got just as good value with Crowder at Mr Irrelevant with the same upside Would you still take Simmons over Thomas in a retract? I sure as hell wouldn't I think you a slowly backing away from your original comment where you said Simmons was useless. I proved he wasn't in the 7 games he played. I am not going to get into who's better between him Thomas and Crowder as they are rookies. They all have their roles and still learning their roles. Not really He is positionless ,has bad fundamental flaws and below average football instincts that he was able to cover at Clemson but already has been taken advantage of... He also can't shed blockers once engaged |
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 22, 2021 13:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 22, 2021 17:36:03 GMT -5
to me, if all 3 WR's, Pitts, Sewell and Slater are all off the boards, you can make a case for a number of defensive players, Paye included, although AVT and Darrisaw should still be in serious consideration. But also there will be very good Guards in the 2nd rd when we pick. That Wyatt Davis from Ohio St. is a beast, Also that T. Smith I think Tenn., Dickerson Bama, There are others as well. We could benefit going defense if we drop back with an extra 2nd rd pick. And nobody knows when this Parsons is going to be picked. Some have him in top 10 and others have him dropping. But he will be a Devin Busch or Devin White type player. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 22, 2021 17:49:45 GMT -5
to me, if all 3 WR's, Pitts, Sewell and Slater are all off the boards, you can make a case for a number of defensive players, Paye included, although AVT and Darrisaw should still be in serious consideration. But also there will be very good Guards in the 2nd rd when we pick. That Wyatt Davis from Ohio St. is a beast, Also that T. Smith I think Tenn., Dickerson Bama, There are others as well. We could benefit going defense if we drop back with an extra 2nd rd pick. And nobody knows when this Parsons is going to be picked. Some have him in top 10 and others have him dropping. But he will be a Devin Busch or Devin White type player. While Zevon Collins reminds me of a very young Carl Banks |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 22, 2021 19:24:18 GMT -5
So, if we trade back, who do you take in rd 1? Paye is going before 20 Zevon Collins ATV Jenkins maybe Toney Maybe Marshall Possibly the edge guy from Georgia No love for Bateman?? I dont get how he is getting so severely overlooked this draft |
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 22, 2021 19:32:27 GMT -5
If anyone wants a spreadsheet of the BBI rankings by SY here it is. The user Robbieballs on BBI created it. I use the Rows tab during my mock drafts. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 22, 2021 19:37:19 GMT -5
Zevon Collins ATV Jenkins maybe Toney Maybe Marshall Possibly the edge guy from Georgia No love for Bateman?? I dont get how he is getting so severely overlooked this draft I keep forgetting about him as well |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 22, 2021 19:40:54 GMT -5
No love for Bateman?? I dont get how he is getting so severely overlooked this draft I keep forgetting about him as well EVERYBODY does, I'm HOPING this will cause him to fall to the 2nd where we can snatch him. Hell if we went any combo of AVT/Jenkins/Bateman/Collins/Tryon in the 1st and 2nd I'd be OK with it in addition to my top tier (Pitts, Sewell, Smith, Chase, Waddle, Slater) who might ALL be gone by 11 |
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 26, 2021 8:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2021 21:34:46 GMT -5
to me, if all 3 WR's, Pitts, Sewell and Slater are all off the boards, you can make a case for a number of defensive players, Paye included, although AVT and Darrisaw should still be in serious consideration. AVT if everyone else is gone should be the pick if they are looking for interior help he is gonna be good for a long time. |
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"as a guy smokin' a cigar. A little sensitive? I picked Smith because he is another weapon for DJ. Pure and simple.
