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Post by nyg2 on Apr 15, 2021 12:14:24 GMT -5
Apparently SI did an interview with Trevor Lawrence and those who are the most closest to him, and some of the answers that were given have raised some eyebrows across the league. He was asked if has a chip on his shoulder and that's what motivates him to be the best he responded by saying "I don’t have this huge chip on my shoulder, that everyone’s out to get me and I’m trying to prove everybody wrong. I just don’t have that. I can’t manufacture that. I don’t want to.” His father was asked to describe what type of person he is, he said “He’s not award-driven. He’s not, ‘I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs.’” His high school coach was asked about the comment that Trevor and his father made and he responded by saying “There is no doubt about it: With who he is as a person, he could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine.” If your the GM of the Jaguars would you be concerned at all about his work ethic and what exactly motivates a guy that has never really experienced adversity his entire football career so far. Or do you think that this may be a way to lower expectations for him? www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/14/trevor-lawrence-magazine-cover-story-daily-cover
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 12:20:27 GMT -5
How can this player have a chip on his shoulder? Fake news for me.. Run up and take him!!
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Post by BlueReign on Apr 15, 2021 12:21:16 GMT -5
I don't think this says much, if anything, about his work-ethic. To me, the larger takeaway is that the article says he can "walk away tomorrow". He's no doubt going #1 overall, but who knows, maybe he will hang them up early like Barry Sanders.
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Post by te88 on Apr 15, 2021 12:29:40 GMT -5
Lol typical loser way of thinking about things. The NFL world is so cave man.
It is always this way with talented people. In any profession.
But yes some people would rather have loyal losers in their workplace than talented people who don’t “need” their employer.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 15, 2021 12:44:14 GMT -5
Thats the one negative about Lawrence. Not that he doesn't have a hard work ethic, because there are plenty of examples of the opposite, but rather he has been anointed as the greatest since Luck/Manning for over 2-3 years now. He is only 21. He more than likely would have been the #1 pick for 3 straight drafts. It will be interesting to see how he can adjust if he struggles early which most rookie QBs do. I think that is another comparable to Luck and P Manning. They were on the same pedestal too. Their work ethic was never questioned though. “He is obviously, the most talented guy, but he is the hardest worker,” Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney said. “He is going to be one of the last guys off the practice field. That just sets the standard. He loves to be coached. He is so focused when he is not in. He is not over there jacking around at the water cooler. He is locked in watching the guy who is in. He is not missing a rep.” theclemsoninsider.com/2020/10/21/clemsons-heisman-candidate-does-not-mess-around/
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Post by GameTime on Apr 15, 2021 12:46:38 GMT -5
to be a successful NFL player you need to always train and want to get better.
If any player does not continually strive to improve no matter how talented they will fail
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 15, 2021 12:57:12 GMT -5
Apparently SI did an interview with Trevor Lawrence and those who are the most closest to him, and some of the answers that were given have raised some eyebrows across the league. He was asked if has a chip on his shoulder and that's what motivates him to be the best he responded by saying "I don’t have this huge chip on my shoulder, that everyone’s out to get me and I’m trying to prove everybody wrong. I just don’t have that. I can’t manufacture that. I don’t want to.” His father was asked to describe what type of person he is, he said “He’s not award-driven. He’s not, ‘I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs.’” His high school coach was asked about the comment that Trevor and his father made and he responded by saying “There is no doubt about it: With who he is as a person, he could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine.” If your the GM of the Jaguars would you be concerned at all about his work ethic and what exactly motivates a guy that has never really experienced adversity his entire football career so far. Or do you think that this may be a way to lower expectations for him? www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/14/trevor-lawrence-magazine-cover-story-daily-cover I'd be more concerned with the quality of the scouting that is giving me this nonsense.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2021 13:00:24 GMT -5
Apparently SI did an interview with Trevor Lawrence and those who are the most closest to him, and some of the answers that were given have raised some eyebrows across the league. He was asked if has a chip on his shoulder and that's what motivates him to be the best he responded by saying "I don’t have this huge chip on my shoulder, that everyone’s out to get me and I’m trying to prove everybody wrong. I just don’t have that. I can’t manufacture that. I don’t want to.” His father was asked to describe what type of person he is, he said “He’s not award-driven. He’s not, ‘I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs.’” His high school coach was asked about the comment that Trevor and his father made and he responded by saying “There is no doubt about it: With who he is as a person, he could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine.” If your the GM of the Jaguars would you be concerned at all about his work ethic and what exactly motivates a guy that has never really experienced adversity his entire football career so far. Or do you think that this may be a way to lower expectations for him? www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/14/trevor-lawrence-magazine-cover-story-daily-cover I'd be more concerned with the quality of the scouting that is giving me this nonsense. The Jets trying to manufacture something to make Jacksonville think twice ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 13:39:16 GMT -5
I'd be more concerned with the quality of the scouting that is giving me this nonsense. The Jets trying to manufacture something to make Jacksonville think twice ? Look at you giving the Jets some credit for doing something that could be smart..
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2021 13:44:49 GMT -5
The Jets trying to manufacture something to make Jacksonville think twice ? Look at you giving the Jets some credit for do something that could be smart.. I mean it could be the 49ers as well thinking the Jets would be so narrow mindededly locked on Z Jones that they pass on Lawrence
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Post by allnygin on Apr 15, 2021 13:47:46 GMT -5
Means absolutely nothing, at least to me. People approach things differently competitiveness is one of those things .
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Post by jb456 on Apr 15, 2021 13:48:46 GMT -5
I'd be more concerned with the quality of the scouting that is giving me this nonsense. The Jets trying to manufacture something to make Jacksonville think twice ? This isn't just SI. It's coming out from multiple sources. It's legit but doesn't mean his stock will drop. On the other hand, I know I wouldn't love what he was saying if I were a Jacksonville fan but they will still take him...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 14:16:33 GMT -5
Look at you giving the Jets some credit for do something that could be smart.. I mean it could be the 49ers as well thinking the Jets would be so narrow mindededly locked on Z Jones that they pass on Lawrence That's so much better.. It's outlawed out here to praise anything that deals with the Jets!!
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Post by SG88 on Apr 15, 2021 14:19:56 GMT -5
I guess he will now fall to the Giants at 11! (Sarcasm).
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 15, 2021 14:24:26 GMT -5
It means something when you’re about to mortgage your whole franchise with this pick. Yeah, I think this will have no affect on the Jaguars selecting Lawrence. It’s pretty much a guarantee he’s going to Jacksonville. But, I would have concern with a player that has a shred of question towards his work ethic. The NFL is a game, but make no mistake. It’s a business, with a lot of money, time and energy invested into these players. The team will do their part to guide you and help you learn as you play. Your part is to absorb as much info as fast as you can, and be that player who is a tireless worker.
Want to earn the respect of your peers? Be the first at the facilities, and the last to leave. Hard work doesn’t go unnoticed in this league..
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 15, 2021 14:28:02 GMT -5
The Jets trying to manufacture something to make Jacksonville think twice ? This isn't just SI. It's coming out from multiple sources. It's legit but doesn't mean his stock will drop. On the other hand, I know I wouldn't love what he was saying if I were a Jacksonville fan but they will still take him... What's legit about it? All I read was someone's vague and speculative feelings about something.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 15, 2021 14:37:27 GMT -5
Well no one ever said that Andrew Luck could walk away tomorrow....then he did.
I don't think it's possible for the Jags to pass on Lawrence. The risk is way too big. Also this time of year I don't believe anything anyone says or does.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 15, 2021 14:47:24 GMT -5
Well no one ever said that Andrew Luck could walk away tomorrow....t hen he did.I don't think it's possible for the Jags to pass on Lawrence. The risk is way too big. Also this time of year I don't believe anything anyone says or does. Because of injuries. Injuries can end anyones career early. Luckily for Peyton, his neck got hurt late in his career and not in his first couple of seasons. Jones has had 2 injuries in 2 seasons. He is one more injury in 2021 away from being a big injury prone concern.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 15, 2021 14:55:52 GMT -5
Well no one ever said that Andrew Luck could walk away tomorrow....t hen he did.I don't think it's possible for the Jags to pass on Lawrence. The risk is way too big. Also this time of year I don't believe anything anyone says or does. Because of injuries. Injuries can end anyones career early. Luckily for Peyton, his neck got hurt late in his career and not in his first couple of seasons. Jones has had 2 injuries in 2 seasons. He is one more injury in 2021 away from being a big injury prone concern. Yeah no doubt. My only point was that a players dad saying he could walk away at any moment and be ok is not very high on the list of concerns for things that could happen to a player. Lots of things can derail a career.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2021 15:11:09 GMT -5
This isn't just SI. It's coming out from multiple sources. It's legit but doesn't mean his stock will drop. On the other hand, I know I wouldn't love what he was saying if I were a Jacksonville fan but they will still take him... What's legit about it? All I read was someone's vague and speculative feelings about something. I'd like my nothingburger medium rare with onions please
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2021 15:45:44 GMT -5
Not bad for a guy without a work ethic
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Post by jb456 on Apr 15, 2021 15:53:30 GMT -5
This isn't just SI. It's coming out from multiple sources. It's legit but doesn't mean his stock will drop. On the other hand, I know I wouldn't love what he was saying if I were a Jacksonville fan but they will still take him... What's legit about it? All I read was someone's vague and speculative feelings about something. Widely reporting in multiple media outlets. You don't think he would respond if it wasn't true. I believe the dude said winning isn't everything, he doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder and there is more to life than football. I haven't heard anyone in the media or TL call BS to these stories so it most likely it isn't. It is what it is. He is a millennial and also mentioned that he was passionate about what he does. Like I said, he is still going #1 but I'm sure Jacksonville would rather have a fierce competitor (Tom Brady Type). He just may choose to pull a luck and retire earlier. This isn't impacting the draft so like GL said, nothing burger....
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2021 15:54:12 GMT -5
Well no one ever said that Andrew Luck could walk away tomorrow....then he did. I don't think it's possible for the Jags to pass on Lawrence. The risk is way too big. Also this time of year I don't believe anything anyone says or does. he walked b/c of injuries. Lawrence had labrum/labrum surgery to his non-throwing shoulder yet his throwing arm and the rest are healthy.
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 15, 2021 16:40:45 GMT -5
What's legit about it? All I read was someone's vague and speculative feelings about something. Widely reporting in multiple media outlets. You don't think he would respond if it wasn't true. I believe the dude said winning isn't everything, he doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder and there is more to life than football. I haven't heard anyone in the media or TL call BS to these stories so it most likely it isn't. It is what it is. He is a millennial and also mentioned that he was passionate about what he does. Like I said, he is still going #1 but I'm sure Jacksonville would rather have a fierce competitor (Tom Brady Type). He just may choose to pull a luck and retire earlier. This isn't impacting the draft so like GL said, nothing burger.... He's right, there is more to life than football and if that's him playing with no chip on his shoulder, that's better than the next guy who does have a chip. So what's that worth? And what is he supposed to respond to? That he isn't faking it hard enough? Give me his numbers and production over the next best guy whose numbers aren't as good but he's great at playing up all the rah-rah bullshit.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 15, 2021 18:36:34 GMT -5
What's legit about it? All I read was someone's vague and speculative feelings about something. Widely reporting in multiple media outlets. You don't think he would respond if it wasn't true. I believe the dude said winning isn't everything, he doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder and there is more to life than football. I haven't heard anyone in the media or TL call BS to these stories so it most likely it isn't. It is what it is. He is a millennial and also mentioned that he was passionate about what he does. Like I said, he is still going #1 but I'm sure Jacksonville would rather have a fierce competitor (Tom Brady Type). He just may choose to pull a luck and retire earlier. This isn't impacting the draft so like GL said, nothing burger.... Pull a Luck... You mean constantly get his protection ignored and pay the price for it with injuries? Injuries that could effect his long term life with his kids ect? It's not like Luck pulled a Tiki Barber.
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Post by southerner on Apr 15, 2021 18:41:53 GMT -5
This is a stupid fake news click bait nonsense. Trevor has been a leader at. Clemson with all of his teammates and coaches behind him and really like him. This kind of stupidity is now normal since 2016 when true journalism went down the toilet for good. Jacksonville will sign him and benefit for a long time for getting a generational QB.
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Post by jb456 on Apr 15, 2021 19:26:07 GMT -5
Widely reporting in multiple media outlets. You don't think he would respond if it wasn't true. I believe the dude said winning isn't everything, he doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder and there is more to life than football. I haven't heard anyone in the media or TL call BS to these stories so it most likely it isn't. It is what it is. He is a millennial and also mentioned that he was passionate about what he does. Like I said, he is still going #1 but I'm sure Jacksonville would rather have a fierce competitor (Tom Brady Type). He just may choose to pull a luck and retire earlier. This isn't impacting the draft so like GL said, nothing burger.... He's right, there is more to life than football and if that's him playing with no chip on his shoulder, that's better than the next guy who does have a chip. So what's that worth? And what is he supposed to respond to? That he isn't faking it hard enough? Give me his numbers and production over the next best guy whose numbers aren't as good but he's great at playing up all the rah-rah bullshit. You appear to be having a one way argument. The good news is you're winning and I will continue to be on your side.... Like I said, a nothing burger...
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Post by moecoastie on Apr 15, 2021 19:27:40 GMT -5
If they couldnt find a negative with Lawrence I would be worried
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Post by TEM on Apr 16, 2021 6:00:21 GMT -5
I do not see the work ethic problem that the OP suggests. I see non-arrogant confidence. What is wrong with that? Without watching this kid play one snap in the NFL . Just by reading this about him. He is going to have Ice running through his veins. It seems the outcome does not matter to him. By what I interpret he is saying . He will only be in the moment that is taking place. On the field or not.
That is a quality that you want in a QB.
"I just want to be better today than I was yesterday"
That is what it is about.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 16, 2021 6:21:30 GMT -5
maybe a photo of him with a facemask bong will appear, and between the 2 of them, he drops to 11.
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