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Post by TCHOF on Apr 21, 2021 8:19:28 GMT -5
DeVonta Smith: 6-foot 0.2 inches and 166 lbs
Zaven Collins: 6'4" and 270 lbs (up 11 pounds from Pro Day).
Tutu Atwell: 5'8" and 149 pounds
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 9:03:26 GMT -5
DeVonta Smith: 6-foot 0.2 inches and 166 lbs Zaven Collins: 6'4" and 270 lbs (up 11 pounds from Pro Day). Tutu Atwell: 5'8" and 149 poundsI believe I've played against bigger players in my pee wee PAL football playing days...when I was in 6th grade. THAT is a small. Damn, should of had some ice cream all night and gotten to 150 plus...149 just sounds so non NFL And Collins with the 270? WTH? In another few months he could replace Tomlinson as the 1 tech...  |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 21, 2021 9:11:39 GMT -5
DeVonta Smith: 6-foot 0.2 inches and 166 lbs Zaven Collins: 6'4" and 270 lbs (up 11 pounds from Pro Day). Tutu Atwell: 5'8" and 149 pounds. THAT is a small. Damn, should of had some ice cream all night and gotten to 150 plus...149 just sounds so non NFL And Collins with the 270? WTH? In another few months he could replace Tomlinson as the 1 tech... Tutu is too short for his own good. Even his name sounds small. He might do well under the right system. He’s not a plug him in and let him play type of player. He would be best suited in an offense that moves him around constantly. Use his small stature and speed to your advantage. The thing that I don’t like is, once a cornerback gets his hands on him is he strong enough to break away from them? Everyone is fast in this league, you can’t just depend on that solely. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 21, 2021 10:46:33 GMT -5
I believe I've played against bigger players in my pee wee PAL football playing days...when I was in 6th grade. THAT is a small. Damn, should of had some ice cream all night and gotten to 150 plus...149 just sounds so non NFL And Collins with the 270? WTH? In another few months he could replace Tomlinson as the 1 tech... Tutu is too short for his own good. Even his name sounds small. He might do well under the right system. He’s not a plug him in and let him play type of player. He would be best suited in an offense that moves him around constantly. Use his small stature and speed to your advantage. The thing that I don’t like is, once a cornerback gets his hands on him is he strong enough to break away from them? Everyone is fast in this league, you can’t just depend on that solely. Didn't hurt Sproles (who was basically a mighty mite early) |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 21, 2021 11:05:37 GMT -5
Smith 166 lbs is why he wouldn't be weighed at his pro day. He didn't even make the 170 that he was listed as.
Collins is a DE at 270 lbs not a LBer. We would be a 4-3 instead of a 3-4 which for me is no big deal. Don't know if Grahmm minds though.
And Tu Tu I'm not interested at all. Too small my 14 year old grandson is his size. Can't we find a guy as fast that's 6'2" or so, even 5'11".
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 21, 2021 11:15:34 GMT -5
Tutu is too short for his own good. Even his name sounds small. He might do well under the right system. He’s not a plug him in and let him play type of player. He would be best suited in an offense that moves him around constantly. Use his small stature and speed to your advantage. The thing that I don’t like is, once a cornerback gets his hands on him is he strong enough to break away from them? Everyone is fast in this league, you can’t just depend on that solely. Didn't hurt Sproles (who was basically a mighty mite early) Big fan of Sproles. Who I think benefited playing running back and being an exceptional punt and kick off returner. Tyrek Hill is taller than this guy. This kids game is strictly speed. You have to be quick when you’re the weight of adolescent. |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 21, 2021 11:36:09 GMT -5
Zaven Collins edge? 270?! DAMN
Hopefully he still moves the same
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 22, 2021 6:57:30 GMT -5
Smith 166 lbs is why he wouldn't be weighed at his pro day. He didn't even make the 170 that he was listed as. Collins is a DE at 270 lbs not a LBer. We would be a 4-3 instead of a 3-4 which for me is no big deal. Don't know if Grahmm minds though. And Tu Tu I'm not interested at all. Too small my 14 year old grandson is his size. Can't we find a guy as fast that's 6'2" or so, even 5'11". I don't know what weight he played at in college, but Collins' size didn't inhibit him from flying around the field. Dude looked like a stud. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 22, 2021 11:16:36 GMT -5
Smith 166 lbs is why he wouldn't be weighed at his pro day. He didn't even make the 170 that he was listed as. Collins is a DE at 270 lbs not a LBer. We would be a 4-3 instead of a 3-4 which for me is no big deal. Don't know if Grahmm minds though. And Tu Tu I'm not interested at all. Too small my 14 year old grandson is his size. Can't we find a guy as fast that's 6'2" or so, even 5'11". I don't know what weight he played at in college, but Collins' size didn't inhibit him from flying around the field. Dude looked like a |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 22, 2021 11:25:18 GMT -5
I don't know what weight he played at in college, but Collins' size didn't inhibit him from flying around the field. Dude looked like a Sorry piddy your talking about Collins weight. I thought you mean't TuTu. As far as his college pro day he weighed in at 259. I love this guy at any weight. I was just stating he might fit better at 270 at DE. But he's playing the edge position on my team any day. No matter what weight he is. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 22, 2021 11:52:11 GMT -5
Sorry piddy your talking about Collins weight. I thought you mean't TuTu. As far as his college pro day he weighed in at 259. I love this guy at any weight. I was just stating he might fit better at 270 at DE. But he's playing the edge position on my team any day. No matter what weight he is. Yea, 270 seems gigantic. I watched a little film on him the other day and commented at how big he looked compared to other players on the field, and was shocked at how well he moved. He might've even been wearing some of those old school shoulder pads that made him look bigger. I think Collins could be in play, especially if we trade back. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 23, 2021 14:25:37 GMT -5
Sorry piddy your talking about Collins weight. I thought you mean't TuTu. As far as his college pro day he weighed in at 259. I love this guy at any weight. I was just stating he might fit better at 270 at DE. But he's playing the edge position on my team any day. No matter what weight he is. I just saw this guy Jason McIntyre mention Zaven Collins is someone to watch for the Giants at #11. Outside of this MB, he's the first person I've heard mention Collins' name as a stud and potential top half of the 1st round target. The closer we get to the draft the more I like the idea of Collins. I think he's someone everyone is overlooking simply because of Parsons. He has the size and athleticism you want in a LB. An ex-QB with natural instincts, he has the ability to rush the passer, play the run, and drop into coverage. Collins has quickly become my favorite defensive prospect, and I might put him in my top-3 overall behind Smith and Slater. Even if we don't trade back, I'll be very happy drafting him. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 23, 2021 20:35:24 GMT -5
Sorry piddy your talking about Collins weight. I thought you mean't TuTu. As far as his college pro day he weighed in at 259. I love this guy at any weight. I was just stating he might fit better at 270 at DE. But he's playing the edge position on my team any day. No matter what weight he is. I just saw this guy Jason McIntyre mention Zaven Collins is someone to watch for the Giants at #11. Outside of this MB, he's the first person I've heard mention Collins' name as a stud and potential top half of the 1st round target. The closer we get to the draft the more I like the idea of Collins. I think he's someone everyone is overlooking simply because of Parsons. He has the size and athleticism you want in a LB. An ex-QB with natural instincts, he has the ability to rush the passer, play the run, and drop into coverage. Collins has quickly become my favorite defensive prospect, and I might put him in my top-3 overall behind Smith and Slater. Even if we don't trade back, I'll be very happy drafting him. I also feel this way about Azeez Ojulari. On offense I go back and forth between Waddle and Slater. And here in the last week I'm going full circle and am thinking Smith who was the first person I liked in this draft way back when the draft order was first announced. So 3 on offense Smith, Waddle, and Slater. 3 on defense all LBers Parsons, Collins, and Ojulari. So here's where I am " befuddled ".  |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 23, 2021 22:13:47 GMT -5
I just saw this guy Jason McIntyre mention Zaven Collins is someone to watch for the Giants at #11. Outside of this MB, he's the first person I've heard mention Collins' name as a stud and potential top half of the 1st round target. The closer we get to the draft the more I like the idea of Collins. I think he's someone everyone is overlooking simply because of Parsons. He has the size and athleticism you want in a LB. An ex-QB with natural instincts, he has the ability to rush the passer, play the run, and drop into coverage. Collins has quickly become my favorite defensive prospect, and I might put him in my top-3 overall behind Smith and Slater. Even if we don't trade back, I'll be very happy drafting him. I also feel this way about Azeez Ojulari. On offense I go back and forth between Waddle and Slater. And here in the last week I'm going full circle and am thinking Smith who was the first person I liked in this draft way back when the draft order was first announced. So 3 on offense Smith, Waddle, and Slater. 3 on defense all LBers Parsons, Collins, and Ojulari. So here's where I am " befuddled ". Love it.....can't wait for next Thursday. |
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