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Post by TCHOF on Apr 30, 2021 7:35:55 GMT -5
Giants: Love the trade back, hopeful about the Toney pick but concerned about the off-field issues. Glad the team recognized that this year has to be about giving Daniel Jones everything he needs to succeed.
Eagles: With a roster in shambles, they traded up to draft a WR in the first round for the second year in a row. The Matt Millen school of team building.
Cowboys: Obviously wanted a CB and lost out. Picked up a 3rd rounder from the Eagles to move back just 2 spots. Drafted Parsons at a position where they already have players. Giants have two coaches with intimate knowledge of Parsons the person, and decided to pass on him. What does that tell you?
WFT: Like their pick. Making their strong D stronger.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 30, 2021 7:41:53 GMT -5
Giants: Love the trade back, hopeful about the Toney pick but concerned about the off-field issues. Glad the team recognized that this year has to be about giving Daniel Jones everything he needs to succeed. Eagles: With a roster in shambles, they traded up to draft a WR in the first round for the second year in a row. The Matt Millen school of team building. Cowboys: Obviously wanted a CB and lost out. Picked up a 3rd rounder from the Eagles to move back just 2 spots. Drafted Parsons at a position where they already have players. Giants have two coaches with intimate knowledge of Parsons the person, and decided to pass on him. What does that tell you? WFT: Like their pick. Making their strong D stronger. When the Cowboys did there trade it was a lesser of 2 evils thing the Giants are a real threat now Eagles not so much WFT got a real nice player with that LB. Love that the Giants were ready and had a plan and picked the guy a I thought they should they never draft my guy lol. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 30, 2021 7:48:14 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that the Pokes made a trade with the Iggles, but it is what it is, not much we could do about it. I am pleased with how it worked out for us. WFT will have a scary D, how's their offense going to be though? They're going to have to hold teams to single digit scores.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 30, 2021 8:13:16 GMT -5
What "off the field issues" does Toney have?
And dont forget, Philly traded back from 6 to 12 and got a 1st rounder next year for it too, and used one of the picks they got in that trade back to move back up and get the WR they wanted. They are still plus in picks.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 30, 2021 8:16:33 GMT -5
Had the Cowboys made the Bears trade i would upset.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 30, 2021 8:24:39 GMT -5
What "off the field issues" does Toney have? And dont forget, Philly traded back from 6 to 12 and got a 1st rounder next year for it too, and used one of the picks they got in that trade back to move back up and get the WR they wanted. They are still plus in picks. I was really talking about last night, but you’re right ... good move by the Eagles to trade back |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 30, 2021 8:26:47 GMT -5
Dallas might get 1 good year out of the trio of Vander Esch,Smith and Parsons..
Vander Esch is lucky to play half tbe season with his chronic neck/spinal issue...he could be out of football in 3 years
Smith is already losing his explosiveness he had because of his knee starting to deteriorate..and he has a ton of guaranteed money so he can't be cut as his effectiveness starts to decline..
So basicly as a whole they might have one above average LB group year while they have nothing in tbe secondary and their D line is still bad
And they still have Smith to defend either way
Philly
Smith doesn't help their deteriorating Oine or defense
WTF
On paper they got a dynamic young athlete mic
They needed O line and how much longer can Fitzmagic have his above average bi polar type years before he fizzles ...
They don't have a qb
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 8:28:50 GMT -5
Had the Cowboys made the Bears trade i would upset. That's what I was thinking but then the Giants would have Smith.. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 8:31:12 GMT -5
What "off the field issues" does Toney have?And dont forget, Philly traded back from 6 to 12 and got a 1st rounder next year for it too, and used one of the picks they got in that trade back to move back up and get the WR they wanted. They are still plus in picks. I just read that he was disciplined along with other players on the college team. Also had a rifle in his car during a traffic stop.. Guns are allowed so I don't know if he got in trouble for carrying it or didn't have proper paper work to own it.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 30, 2021 8:36:19 GMT -5
What "off the field issues" does Toney have?And dont forget, Philly traded back from 6 to 12 and got a 1st rounder next year for it too, and used one of the picks they got in that trade back to move back up and get the WR they wanted. They are still plus in picks. I just read that he was disciplined along with other players on the college team. Also had a rifle in his car during a traffic stop.. Guns are allowed so I don't know if he got in trouble for carrying it or didn't have proper paper work to own it.. Was a nothingburger We can have them on us down here |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Apr 30, 2021 8:37:24 GMT -5
I just read that he was disciplined along with other players on the college team. Also had a rifle in his car during a traffic stop.. Guns are allowed so I don't know if he got in trouble for carrying it or didn't have proper paper work to own it.. Or goes to the club with Plax. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 30, 2021 8:39:33 GMT -5
Had the Cowboys made the Bears trade i would upset. That's what I was thinking but then the Giants would have Smith.. Yeah, that's the trade off. It's Toney and the #1 next season vs Smith. That's the result. Meanwhile, Dallas still needs that CB for that weakened secondary. Parsons adds a punch, but in this league, you can fly over him is my boas take. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 30, 2021 8:40:26 GMT -5
Just as long as he doesn't go to any poker games with Baker! Or goes to the club with Plax. No boat trips |
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Post by devilsadvocate on Apr 30, 2021 8:40:31 GMT -5
Giants: Love the trade back, hopeful about the Toney pick but concerned about the off-field issues. Glad the team recognized that this year has to be about giving Daniel Jones everything he needs to succeed. Eagles: With a roster in shambles, they traded up to draft a WR in the first round for the second year in a row. The Matt Millen school of team building. Cowboys: Obviously wanted a CB and lost out. Picked up a 3rd rounder from the Eagles to move back just 2 spots. Drafted Parsons at a position where they already have players. Giants have two coaches with intimate knowledge of Parsons the person, and decided to pass on him. What does that tell you? WFT: Like their pick. Making their strong D stronger. We all know the eagles have junk at WR. Getting Smith (who they wanted all along) while picking up a 1st rounder next year and giving up a 3rd rounder this year is NOT Matt Millen school of team building. Of course the eagles are in need of a roster overhaul at many positions but getting Smith who was on par with the other two chosen before him and keeping him from the GMen is a shrewd move. |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 30, 2021 8:41:56 GMT -5
The Eagles hit a home run with drafting DeVonta Smith. Mater of fact, I like the aggressiveness they had with trading up. They needed a receiver, they knew we liked Smith. It’s a win, win for the Eagles. Draft a talented player and keep him away from a division rival. This is nothing compared to Matt Millen. Every Giants fan kicked their couch last night after the Eagles got Smith.
The Cowboys missed out on the cornerbacks they wanted. But, they drafted the best defensive player in the draft. Let’s be real with this, this kid has too 5 talent. But, maturity issues. Anyone trying to downplay the pick is just trying to justify our pick. The Cowboys got a hell of a player.
As for us. I was pissed we traded back when Parsons and Slater were sitting there in there outlandish suits. Beat players available, at positions of need. I think the Giants dropped the ball on that one. Time will tell.. The Toney pick surprised me, don’t know much about the player. So, not going to give an detail response about him. He looks fantastic on the clips they showed. Reminds me of Antonio Brown when runs after the catch. I don’t like hearing about his injury history, or that he’s learning the receiver position. However, he looks like a player who fits into the modern NFL. You can put him in the slot, the backfield, motion him, special teams.
Washington. I went to sleep, who cares about them.
Overall, we got more draft picks. And picked up another weapon on offense. A lot of the players we picked up have injury histories. So, as much as we addressed the positions. We also took a risk. Here’s to hoping the risk is worth the reward.
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Post by fifthavephil on Apr 30, 2021 8:45:42 GMT -5
Dallas might get 1 good year out of the trio of Vander Esch,Smith and Parsons.. Vander Esch is lucky to play half tbe season with his chronic neck/spinal issue...he could be out of football in 3 years Smith is already losing his explosiveness he had because of his knee starting to deteriorate..and he has a ton of guaranteed money so he can't be cut as his effectiveness starts to decline.. So basicly as a whole they might have one above average LB group year while they have nothing in tbe secondary and their D line is still bad And they still have Smith to defend either way Philly Smith doesn't help their deteriorating Oine or defense WTF On paper they got a dynamic young athlete mic They needed O line and how much longer can Fitzmagic have his above average bi polar type years before he fizzles ... They don't have a qb How is the Draft class next year . I heard the QB class will be weak. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 8:49:37 GMT -5
The Eagles hit a home run with drafting DeVonta Smith. Mater of fact, I like the aggressiveness they had with trading up. They needed a receiver, they knew we liked Smith. It’s a win, win for the Eagles. Draft a talented player and keep him away from a division rival. This is nothing compared to Matt Millen. Every Giants fan kicked their couch last night after the Eagles got Smith. The Cowboys missed out on the cornerbacks they wanted. But, they drafted the best defensive player in the draft. Let’s be real with this, this kid has too 5 talent. But, maturity issues. Anyone trying to downplay the pick is just trying to justify our pick. The Cowboys got a hell of a player. As for us. I was pissed we traded back when Parsons and Slater were sitting there in there outlandish suits. Beat players available, at positions of need. I think the Giants dropped the ball on that one. Time will tell.. The Toney pick surprised me, don’t know much about the player. So, not going to give an detail response about him. He looks fantastic on the clips they showed. Reminds me of Antonio Brown when runs after the catch. I don’t like hearing about his injury history, or that he’s learning the receiver position. However, he looks like a player who fits into the modern NFL. You can put him in the slot, the backfield, motion him, special teams. Washington. I went to sleep, who cares about them. Overall, we got more draft picks. And picked up another weapon on offense. A lot of the players we picked up have injury histories. So, as much as we addressed the positions. We also took a risk. Here’s to hoping the risk is worth the reward. lol....did you see the clip of Toney "juking" the defender from behind the LOS before the ball was even snapped? |
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Post by TGTW92 on Apr 30, 2021 8:54:25 GMT -5
Toney played QB in high school and has a cannon. Expect a few trick plays this season.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 30, 2021 8:57:46 GMT -5
The Eagles hit a home run with drafting DeVonta Smith. Mater of fact, I like the aggressiveness they had with trading up. They needed a receiver, they knew we liked Smith. It’s a win, win for the Eagles. Draft a talented player and keep him away from a division rival. This is nothing compared to Matt Millen. Every Giants fan kicked their couch last night after the Eagles got Smith. The Cowboys missed out on the cornerbacks they wanted. But, they drafted the best defensive player in the draft. Let’s be real with this, this kid has too 5 talent. But, maturity issues. Anyone trying to downplay the pick is just trying to justify our pick. The Cowboys got a hell of a player. As for us. I was pissed we traded back when Parsons and Slater were sitting there in there outlandish suits. Beat players available, at positions of need. I think the Giants dropped the ball on that one. Time will tell.. The Toney pick surprised me, don’t know much about the player. So, not going to give an detail response about him. He looks fantastic on the clips they showed. Reminds me of Antonio Brown when runs after the catch. I don’t like hearing about his injury history, or that he’s learning the receiver position. However, he looks like a player who fits into the modern NFL. You can put him in the slot, the backfield, motion him, special teams. Washington. I went to sleep, who cares about them. Overall, we got more draft picks. And picked up another weapon on offense. A lot of the players we picked up have injury histories. So, as much as we addressed the positions. We also took a risk. Here’s to hoping the risk is worth the reward. lol....did you see the clip of Toney "juking" the defender from behind the LOS before the ball was even snapped? There was a clip I saw, it had to be his pro day. He juked the corner right out of his jock. And it wasn’t like oh he got him. It was more like, he embarrassed him. He got so far away from him that when the ball was in the air Toney was in another zip code. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 8:58:14 GMT -5
Giants: Love the trade back, hopeful about the Toney pick but concerned about the off-field issues. Glad the team recognized that this year has to be about giving Daniel Jones everything he needs to succeed. Eagles: With a roster in shambles, they traded up to draft a WR in the first round for the second year in a row. The Matt Millen school of team building. Cowboys: Obviously wanted a CB and lost out. Picked up a 3rd rounder from the Eagles to move back just 2 spots. Drafted Parsons at a position where they already have players. Giants have two coaches with intimate knowledge of Parsons the person, and decided to pass on him. What does that tell you? WFT: Like their pick. Making their strong D stronger. The players didn't fall ideally for the Cowboys so they foiled our ideal #1 and snatched an extra 3.
With so many holes and a question mark at QB who the hell knows what to make of the Eagles move.
Redskins continue to build on defense with needs on offense.
The suggestion that we got played is nonsense because the Giants obviously knew there was a chance all 3 WR's would be gone. I like this move because this kid fits Judge's plan of having "multiple" players on this roster. This is kid is more than just a receiver.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 30, 2021 8:58:25 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that the Pokes made a trade with the Iggles, but it is what it is, not much we could do about it. I am pleased with how it worked out for us. WFT will have a scary D, how's their offense going to be though? They're going to have to hold teams to single digit scores. I agree, but I imagine the WFT is going offense with the next 2 picks. OL and/or RB. 2 from N.C. (Williams looks real good to me), and a bulldog from Ohio St (I think his name is something like Sermon but thats not it) should be the next 3 RB's imo. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 9:05:58 GMT -5
The Eagles hit a home run with drafting DeVonta Smith. Mater of fact, I like the aggressiveness they had with trading up. They needed a receiver, they knew we liked Smith. It’s a win, win for the Eagles. Draft a talented player and keep him away from a division rival. This is nothing compared to Matt Millen. Every Giants fan kicked their couch last night after the Eagles got Smith. The Cowboys missed out on the cornerbacks they wanted. But, they drafted the best defensive player in the draft. Let’s be real with this, this kid has too 5 talent. But, maturity issues. Anyone trying to downplay the pick is just trying to justify our pick. The Cowboys got a hell of a player. As for us. I was pissed we traded back when Parsons and Slater were sitting there in there outlandish suits. Beat players available, at positions of need. I think the Giants dropped the ball on that one. Time will tell.. The Toney pick surprised me, don’t know much about the player. So, not going to give an detail response about him. He looks fantastic on the clips they showed. Reminds me of Antonio Brown when runs after the catch. I don’t like hearing about his injury history, or that he’s learning the receiver position. However, he looks like a player who fits into the modern NFL. You can put him in the slot, the backfield, motion him, special teams. Washington. I went to sleep, who cares about them. Overall, we got more draft picks. And picked up another weapon on offense. A lot of the players we picked up have injury histories. So, as much as we addressed the positions. We also took a risk. Here’s to hoping the risk is worth the reward.
I thought the same about Parsons and Slater but we know the Giants did their work on them and for whatever reason didn't value them enough right there.
It would have been pretty ironic had we taken Parsons.
I was disappointed to lose out on Smith just when it seemed he was falling into our laps but the Eagles gave up the 3 for him and we know all to well that 1 great receiver doesn't equal wins. They still have a bunch of holes and a ? at QB.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 30, 2021 9:16:09 GMT -5
my initial thoughts are:
I ****ing hate Philthy and the Dallass even more than I did previously. Especially Philthy.
I want to sweep both teams and shove in their faces.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 30, 2021 9:26:23 GMT -5
The Eagles hit a home run with drafting DeVonta Smith. Mater of fact, I like the aggressiveness they had with trading up. They needed a receiver, they knew we liked Smith. It’s a win, win for the Eagles. Draft a talented player and keep him away from a division rival. This is nothing compared to Matt Millen. Every Giants fan kicked their couch last night after the Eagles got Smith. The Cowboys missed out on the cornerbacks they wanted. But, they drafted the best defensive player in the draft. Let’s be real with this, this kid has too 5 talent. But, maturity issues. Anyone trying to downplay the pick is just trying to justify our pick. The Cowboys got a hell of a player. As for us. I was pissed we traded back when Parsons and Slater were sitting there in there outlandish suits. Beat players available, at positions of need. I think the Giants dropped the ball on that one. Time will tell.. The Toney pick surprised me, don’t know much about the player. So, not going to give an detail response about him. He looks fantastic on the clips they showed. Reminds me of Antonio Brown when runs after the catch. I don’t like hearing about his injury history, or that he’s learning the receiver position. However, he looks like a player who fits into the modern NFL. You can put him in the slot, the backfield, motion him, special teams. Washington. I went to sleep, who cares about them. Overall, we got more draft picks. And picked up another weapon on offense. A lot of the players we picked up have injury histories. So, as much as we addressed the positions. We also took a risk. Here’s to hoping the risk is worth the reward.
I thought the same about Parsons and Slater but we know the Giants did their work on them and for whatever reason didn't value them enough right there.
It would have been pretty ironic had we taken Parsons.
I was disappointed to lose out on Smith just when it seemed he was falling into our laps but the Eagles gave up the 3 for him and we know all to well that 1 great receiver doesn't equal wins. They still have a bunch of holes and a ? at QB.
The Eagles are doing exactly what we’re doing. Plugging one hole at a time. And you’re right, one player doesn’t equate to more wins. Neither does, more draft picks. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 9:33:05 GMT -5
lol....did you see the clip of Toney "juking" the defender from behind the LOS before the ball was even snapped? There was a clip I saw, it had to be his pro day. He juked the corner right out of his jock. And it wasn’t like oh he got him. It was more like, he embarrassed him. He got so far away from him that when the ball was in the air Toney was in another zip code. This was an in game clip where Toney went in motion and changed direction so quickly that the defender following him was on the other end of the line when the ball was snapped. Leaving him completely uncovered. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 9:38:50 GMT -5
I thought the same about Parsons and Slater but we know the Giants did their work on them and for whatever reason didn't value them enough right there.
It would have been pretty ironic had we taken Parsons.
I was disappointed to lose out on Smith just when it seemed he was falling into our laps but the Eagles gave up the 3 for him and we know all to well that 1 great receiver doesn't equal wins. They still have a bunch of holes and a ? at QB.
The Eagles are doing exactly what we’re doing. Plugging one hole at a time. And you’re right, one player doesn’t equate to more wins. Neither does, more draft picks.
The Eagles have a decent amount of picks this draft but now only 1 of them will be in the top 100 and 4 will be from 224 to 240. But with a lot of holes and cap issues, these new guys could be a good fit for them.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 9:41:40 GMT -5
my initial thoughts are: I ****ing hate Philthy and the Dallass even more than I did previously. Especially Philthy. I want to sweep both teams and shove in their faces. Lol GT. I got in last night about 9:30. I kept the radio off and DVR'd the draft. So I'm buzzing through each pick figuring I missed the Giants pick and overhear my daughter questioning what was going on.
I was very pissed to learn what both our piece of shit rivals had done. Mother****ers must pay dearly.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 11:01:34 GMT -5
Lol GT. I got in last night about 9:30. I kept the radio off and DVR'd the draft. So I'm buzzing through each pick figuring I missed the Giants pick and overhear my daughter questioning what was going on.
I was very pissed to learn what both our piece of shit rivals had done. Mother****ers must pay dearly.
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that draft room. Eagles to JJ , you want to really **** the Giants, YES, then trade me your pick for a #6 ,sure !!!! People bitch about the old days of football but there was a time you would never , never ever deal inside the division ,ever! Dallas risked losing Parsons to us which tells us they didn't value him that much.  |
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 30, 2021 11:02:46 GMT -5
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that draft room. Eagles to JJ , you want to really **** the Giants, YES, then trade me your pick for a #6 ,sure !!!! People bitch about the old days of football but there was a time you would never , never ever deal inside the division ,ever! Dallas risked losing Parsons to us which tells us they didn't value him that much. Or maybe they knew what we were going to do all along. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 30, 2021 11:22:14 GMT -5
Dallas risked losing Parsons to us which tells us they didn't value him that much. Or maybe they knew what we were going to do all along.
You think?
Of course Peter King told us Gettleman wanted Parsons and Judge wanted a WR so are you saying Dallas knew Judge had final say?
C'mon now admit it. That is very funny.
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