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Oct 13, 2021 8:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 13, 2021 8:07:58 GMT -5
This morning there are email from shelter allowing redskins owners to edit stories before he published on ESPN...
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 8:34:32 GMT -5
Will all settle down until the Bills get into the superbowl, and we have two weeks to revisit Josh Allens past....their eventual superbowl win cancelled in NFL record books in 10 years when words hello and goodbye are considered offensive by the cancel mob....and all orange crayons are taken out of boxes and burned during the great crayola riots of 2036. People are thinking way too much about the why when it comes to Gruden's resignation. It has nothing to do with "cancel culture", "whataboutisms" or anything like that. It simply comes to money, which the NFL cares about more than anything else. It is why they reacted to Kaepernick and it is why they are reacting to Jon. Was it the cancel mob who was responsible for Kaepernick being exiled? Was it the cancel mob who was responsible for Gruden's exile? Nope. The NFL is doing what they do to protect their sponsorship dollars. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Oct 13, 2021 8:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 8:37:45 GMT -5
This morning there are email from shelter allowing redskins owners to edit stories before he published on ESPN... Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 13, 2021 8:51:44 GMT -5
This morning there are email from shelter allowing redskins owners to edit stories before he published on ESPN... Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO. You don't send numerous e-mails like that to people that are not receptive to them ....
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 13, 2021 9:07:13 GMT -5
This morning there are email from shelter allowing redskins owners to edit stories before he published on ESPN... Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO. Where there is smoke there is fire Gruden was just a surprise catch here .. I seriously wonder who else they find
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 9:23:48 GMT -5
Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO. Where there is smoke there is fire Gruden was just a surprise catch here .. I seriously wonder who else they find I'm really leaning towards this being league wide. Imagine if the ownership emails and texts were subpoenaed during the Kaepernick situation. You are 100% correct about the smoke and fire.
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Oct 13, 2021 9:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 9:26:03 GMT -5
Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO. You don't send numerous e-mails like that to people that are not receptive to them .... I agree with that.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 9:37:50 GMT -5
Lol, even Adam Schefter isn't safe from the shrapnel from the WFT stuff. This thing isn't going away anytime soon.
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Post by mendy on Oct 13, 2021 9:39:53 GMT -5
Bucs take his name down from their ring of honor lol … the team that currently employs Antonio Brown Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 13, 2021 9:42:18 GMT -5
Where there is smoke there is fire Gruden was just a surprise catch here .. I seriously wonder who else they find I'm really leaning towards this being league wide. Imagine if the ownership emails and texts were subpoenaed during the Kaepernick situation. You are 100% correct about the smoke and fire. I'm going one step further We have been suspicious about some very shady looking officiating the past few years,especially after sports betting was legalized all over Nevermind game altering calls.. The calls made in garbage time that effect spreads and over/under.. The sports betting industrial complex has a huge influence on tbe league
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Oct 13, 2021 9:46:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 9:46:30 GMT -5
Will all settle down until the Bills get into the superbowl, and we have two weeks to revisit Josh Allens past....their eventual superbowl win cancelled in NFL record books in 10 years when words hello and goodbye are considered offensive by the cancel mob....and all orange crayons are taken out of boxes and burned during the great crayola riots of 2036. You don't find what Gruden said to be offensive? No…. why would it? Just a bunch of none of my business regarding the Redskins Did my saying Redskins offend you?
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Oct 13, 2021 10:04:06 GMT -5
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 10:04:06 GMT -5
lol … the team that currently employs Antonio Brown Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off. And Lawrence Taylor is still in ours. The point in all of this is that the league (all teams and owners) simply does not give a damn until their dollars are impacted. Money is the driving force behind all of this and morals are not. There's always corruption behind billions of dollars.
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 13, 2021 10:23:38 GMT -5
lol … the team that currently employs Antonio Brown Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off. Such madness, truly. We live in an insane world run by insane people.. All of these phony ass greedy corporations (yes the NFL) wanna come out and pretend they care about people lmao. I can't believe people actually buy that corporate PR BS. That's all it is, protecting a brand and displaying FALSE virtue. They only care about money and power, that's all. The corporate establishment and justice system focus on words and look the other way when the rich and famous commit acts of violence against innocent and vulnerable people. Or they get a slap on the wrist compared to the average person; regardless of race or identity. Historically, The world really hasn't changed much. The witch trials are a great example, who were the truly powerful satanic witches?? The people in royalty and in the church! Meanwhile they pretended to help the poor for...PR, basically. They're manipulative.. Same shit different outfits and titles. Not saying I agree with Gruden or would ever speak like that. But he sounds like a typical football guy from his time period. This shit never surprises me lol. Yet he has worked and won with all kinds of athletes for decades. Is that really a dangerous guy? Or is the guy just an immature asshole mentally? That exemplifies his own internal issues he's never worked on I just get irritated because the true criminals (with wealth and power) get off with a slap on the wrist and the masses either make excuses for them or forget all about it. But I'm sure people are losing their minds on Twitter over this dude's WORDS....I mean, unless the emails portray acts of violence, I just see them as examples of stupidity.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 13, 2021 10:37:05 GMT -5
Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off. Such madness, truly. We live in an insane world run by insane people.. All of these phony ass greedy corporations (yes the NFL) wanna come out and pretend they care about people lmao. I can't believe people actually buy that corporate PR BS. That's all it is, protecting a brand and displaying FALSE virtue. They only care about money and power, that's all. The corporate establishment and justice system focus on words and look the other way when the rich and famous commit acts of violence against innocent and vulnerable people. Or they get a slap on the wrist compared to the average person; regardless of race or identity. Historically, The world really hasn't changed much. The witch trials are a great example, who were the truly powerful satanic witches?? The people in royalty and in the church! Meanwhile they pretended to help the poor for...PR, basically. They're manipulative.. Same shit different outfits and titles. Not saying I agree with Gruden or would ever speak like that. But he sounds like a typical football guy from his time period. This shit never surprises me lol. Yet he has worked and won with all kinds of athletes for decades. Is that really a dangerous guy? Or is the guy just an immature asshole mentally? That exemplifies his own internal issues he's never worked on I just get irritated because the true criminals (with wealth and power) get off with a slap on the wrist and the masses either make excuses for them or forget all about it. But I'm sure people are losing their minds on Twitter over this dude's WORDS....I mean, unless the emails portray acts of violence, I just see them as examples of stupidity. You totally nailed it when you said that it is all about money and power. Those are the only two material items in all of this. We can't call it cancel culture when the same thing happened about Kaepernick. Teams avoided him like the plague and will do the same for Gruden. When the dollars are impacted, then and only then will the NFL react. Remember Josh Brown? The Giants didn't do shit to him until sponsors threatened to back out of their relationship with the team and fans started threatening to stop buying tickets. Money and the power.
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Oct 13, 2021 10:45:28 GMT -5
Post by Blue Hulk on Oct 13, 2021 10:45:28 GMT -5
So if it's now proven that an NFL coach of his stature can have racists conversations with a team president and get away with it for 7 years. These same guys are the ones doing the hiring and firing.
That's why Cam and Kap are out of the league. You can deny the harsh realities that I have pointed out and say there is no issue...but here is the smoking gun. The rooney rule is a facade and I'm not giving the NFL a cent of my money. I will continue to watch games for free on stream lol
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 13, 2021 11:06:01 GMT -5
Such madness, truly. We live in an insane world run by insane people.. All of these phony ass greedy corporations (yes the NFL) wanna come out and pretend they care about people lmao. I can't believe people actually buy that corporate PR BS. That's all it is, protecting a brand and displaying FALSE virtue. They only care about money and power, that's all. The corporate establishment and justice system focus on words and look the other way when the rich and famous commit acts of violence against innocent and vulnerable people. Or they get a slap on the wrist compared to the average person; regardless of race or identity. Historically, The world really hasn't changed much. The witch trials are a great example, who were the truly powerful satanic witches?? The people in royalty and in the church! Meanwhile they pretended to help the poor for...PR, basically. They're manipulative.. Same shit different outfits and titles. Not saying I agree with Gruden or would ever speak like that. But he sounds like a typical football guy from his time period. This shit never surprises me lol. Yet he has worked and won with all kinds of athletes for decades. Is that really a dangerous guy? Or is the guy just an immature asshole mentally? That exemplifies his own internal issues he's never worked on I just get irritated because the true criminals (with wealth and power) get off with a slap on the wrist and the masses either make excuses for them or forget all about it. But I'm sure people are losing their minds on Twitter over this dude's WORDS....I mean, unless the emails portray acts of violence, I just see them as examples of stupidity. You totally nailed it when you said that it is all about money and power. Those are the only two material items in all of this. We can't call it cancel culture when the same thing happened about Kaepernick. Teams avoided him like the plague and will do the same for Gruden. When the dollars are impacted, then and only then will the NFL react. Remember Josh Brown? The Giants didn't do shit to him until sponsors threatened to back out of their relationship with the team and fans started threatening to stop buying tickets. Money and the power. Oh absolutely! It's just virtue signaling. They have no virtue. Their virtue is money and power. Look at who makes the NFL's ****ing uniforms! Slave labor Nike 🙄 Come on, such a load of BS. If I remember correctly prior to that the giants actually had their jerseys supplied from a local vendor in like Bayonne. That's pretty evident if you look at how different their Reebok jerseys were from most other teams. But hey, Goddell wants all teams to go to the same "caring" source called Nike. Just a mega corporation that has no regard for human life. I'm sure they're "green" too lmao. All just the latest corporate buzz words for manipulation. And ask yourself why are these corporations and both the Republican and democrat establishment all proliferating segregation? First in regards to identity and now vaccination status....🙄 The masses are being taught to look at skin color and identity first opposed to character and personal background. And now vaccine status too. It's blatant divide and conquer by the wealthy Bill Gates types that influence public policy and media. It's insane. We're all from the same consciousness, the same source of creation. It's all actually the total opposite of what MLK Jr preached.
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Oct 13, 2021 12:06:28 GMT -5
Post by TCHOF on Oct 13, 2021 12:06:28 GMT -5
You don't find what Gruden said to be offensive? No…. why would it? Just a bunch of none of my business regarding the Redskins Did my saying Redskins offend you? The implication being that I am some sort of weak flower because I am offended by racism and anti-gay slurs? Cool.
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 13, 2021 12:42:19 GMT -5
I'm really leaning towards this being league wide. Imagine if the ownership emails and texts were subpoenaed during the Kaepernick situation. You are 100% correct about the smoke and fire. I'm going one step further We have been suspicious about some very shady looking officiating the past few years,especially after sports betting was legalized all over Nevermind game altering calls.. The calls made in garbage time that effect spreads and over/under.. The sports betting industrial complex has a huge influence on tbe league giants have been consistently subject to biased officiating for several years in a row. Maybe that's why. I mean it....I've supported probably a dozen teams over the years, and like any fan I gripe about officiating. But Giants are clearly an outlier in getting bad and untimely calls/no-calls over multiple seasons running
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Post by mendy on Oct 14, 2021 3:39:02 GMT -5
I'm going one step further We have been suspicious about some very shady looking officiating the past few years,especially after sports betting was legalized all over Nevermind game altering calls.. The calls made in garbage time that effect spreads and over/under.. The sports betting industrial complex has a huge influence on tbe league giants have been consistently subject to biased officiating for several years in a row. Maybe that's why. I mean it....I've supported probably a dozen teams over the years, and like any fan I gripe about officiating. But Giants are clearly an outlier in getting bad and untimely calls/no-calls over multiple seasons running Discipline and good fundamentals stop "bad calls" / bad Officiating .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 6:15:32 GMT -5
No…. why would it? Just a bunch of none of my business regarding the Redskins Did my saying Redskins offend you? The implication being that I am some sort of weak flower because I am offended by racism and anti-gay slurs? Cool. Actually, you're the PM fight guy...strong flower. I believe my point was not properly presented and this exchange with all the flower talk is becoming sort of gay ....
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Oct 14, 2021 8:28:33 GMT -5
Post by Dogecoin on Oct 14, 2021 8:28:33 GMT -5
so whats the deal here? the league wanted to punish Gruden for his comments about Goodell, but didnt realize theyd open a pandoras box?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 14, 2021 8:50:22 GMT -5
And to blow up the hypocrisy meter of bad timing, the Washington WTFs are going to retire Sean Taylors jersey number on Sunday. Yes, the Sean Taylor who was arrested for pointing a gun at someone threatening to kill them, assault charges, drunk driving, ect.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 14, 2021 10:46:53 GMT -5
And to blow up the hypocrisy meter of bad timing, the Washington WTFs are going to retire Sean Taylors jersey number on Sunday. Yes, the Sean Taylor who was arrested for pointing a gun at someone threatening to kill them, assault charges, drunk driving, ect. The whole league is a hypocritical cesspool. We even have Lawrence Taylor all over everything despite being arrested for soliciting an underage prostitute amongst other things. We need to concede that the NFL really doesn't give a damn about morals and integrity. They're all about those Benjamins. Nothing more or less. Whataboutisms are a waste of ammo IMO.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 14, 2021 11:07:25 GMT -5
And to blow up the hypocrisy meter of bad timing, the Washington WTFs are going to retire Sean Taylors jersey number on Sunday. Yes, the Sean Taylor who was arrested for pointing a gun at someone threatening to kill them, assault charges, drunk driving, ect. The whole league is a hypocritical cesspool. We even have Lawrence Taylor all over everything despite being arrested for soliciting a prostitute amongst other things. We need to concede that the NFL really doesn't give a damn about morals and integrity. They're all about those Benjamins. Nothing more or less. Whataboutisms are a waste of ammo IMO. Absolutely. I pointed that out on the other Gruden thread floating around. That said, how does keeping Warren Sapp on the Ring of Honor create more money for the Bucs? Or LT for the Giants HOF? I think the most glaring instance for our team is the Josh Brown ordeal. Mara signed him to a contract AFTER it was known he assaulted his wife.
And to be honest with you, our team has been the worst team in the NFL ever since. Maybe its karma.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 14, 2021 11:20:42 GMT -5
The whole league is a hypocritical cesspool. We even have Lawrence Taylor all over everything despite being arrested for soliciting a prostitute amongst other things. We need to concede that the NFL really doesn't give a damn about morals and integrity. They're all about those Benjamins. Nothing more or less. Whataboutisms are a waste of ammo IMO. Absolutely. I pointed that out on the other Gruden thread floating around. That said, how does keeping Warren Sapp on the Ring of Honor create more money for the Bucs? Or LT for the Giants HOF? I think the most glaring instance for our team is the Josh Brown ordeal. Mara signed him to a contract AFTER it was known he assaulted his wife.
And to be honest with you, our team has been the worst team in the NFL ever since. Maybe its karma. Yup. The Giants didn't do shit about Brown until the sponsors started threatening to back out and fans started threatening to not renew their season tickets. The Giants are no better than any other team about this stuff. "If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense." As fans, we just we need to stop looking for things like integrity and decency when it comes to the NFL. If people really want those things from the league, stop enabling them by giving them money. Money is their driving force.
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Oct 14, 2021 11:21:47 GMT -5
Post by Blue Hulk on Oct 14, 2021 11:21:47 GMT -5
Man, the WFT is doing whatever it is takes for all of those emails to not be released. If it came out that Dan Snyder himself echoed a lot of what Jon did, he will most likely be forced to sell like Sterling IMO. You don't send numerous e-mails like that to people that are not receptive to them .... You would know.
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Oct 20, 2021 10:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by KingCap88 on Oct 20, 2021 10:17:22 GMT -5
I feel no sympathy for Gruden, but he would've probably survived the email scandal 10 years ago. But I get the feeling that Gruden is just the tip of the iceberg in this investigation.
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 20, 2021 11:14:00 GMT -5
lol … the team that currently employs Antonio Brown Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off. Doesn't fit the narrative.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 20, 2021 15:28:23 GMT -5
Not defending Gruden at all more of a shot at the Bucs. Oct 2015. Warren Sapp pleads guilty to domestic violence for girlfriend attack, doesn't get jail time: report. NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp has reportedly plead guilty to domestic violence in Las Vegas after allegedly biting and stomping on his longtime girlfriend's head , sexual battery (rape) charges were dropped to obtain this guilty plea.— but he's not going to jail.Oct 1, 2015 Let's not forget Warren Sapp, he remains in Tampa bays ring of honor, Gruden who didn't hit anyone is taken off. Such madness, truly. We live in an insane world run by insane people.. All of these phony ass greedy corporations (yes the NFL) wanna come out and pretend they care about people lmao. I can't believe people actually buy that corporate PR BS. That's all it is, protecting a brand and displaying FALSE virtue. They only care about money and power, that's all. The corporate establishment and justice system focus on words and look the other way when the rich and famous commit acts of violence against innocent and vulnerable people. Or they get a slap on the wrist compared to the average person; regardless of race or identity. Historically, The world really hasn't changed much. The witch trials are a great example, who were the truly powerful satanic witches?? The people in royalty and in the church! Meanwhile they pretended to help the poor for...PR, basically. They're manipulative.. Same shit different outfits and titles. Not saying I agree with Gruden or would ever speak like that. But he sounds like a typical football guy from his time period. This shit never surprises me lol. Yet he has worked and won with all kinds of athletes for decades. Is that really a dangerous guy? Or is the guy just an immature asshole mentally? That exemplifies his own internal issues he's never worked on I just get irritated because the true criminals (with wealth and power) get off with a slap on the wrist and the masses either make excuses for them or forget all about it. But I'm sure people are losing their minds on Twitter over this dude's WORDS....I mean, unless the emails portray acts of violence, I just see them as examples of stupidity. well said bro very well said. And to think people in this world like vets ( myself), teachers, and first responders most will not make a TOTAL of 1 million in their lifetime but the very people you named are filthy rich and don't do shit but Entertain but they do a lot of wrong and bad shit!!!!!!!
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 20, 2021 16:24:38 GMT -5
Gruden always came off as thinking he was the smartest guy in the room and then goes and publicly shits his pants, amazing..
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