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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 7:12:45 GMT -5
He's says they will be taking calls and if something is done it will be done with the improvement for the future in mind at all times, That can mean several things they could trade for a young talent or be looking for draft picks, as he said he will take no short cuts think what ever they do guys have to be young enough to give them some years. Thats how they approached free agency the last couple years also.
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Post by Giggles on Oct 26, 2021 7:40:02 GMT -5
It's concerning that it appears his power has already grown to include GM responsibilities.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 26, 2021 7:41:40 GMT -5
It's concerning that it appears his power has already grown to include GM responsibilities. over and over the present GM and GM's of the past have said how much the HC is involved with the process of the roster, drafting etc. This is nothing new at all |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 26, 2021 7:50:05 GMT -5
good stuff. Let's get it done Gmen, get it done!!!
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Post by GameTime on Oct 26, 2021 7:54:04 GMT -5
He's says they will be taking calls and if something is done it will be done with the improvement for the future in mind at all times, That can mean several things they could trade for a young talent or be looking for draft picks, as he said he will take no short cuts think what ever they do guys have to be young enough to give them some years. Thats how they approached free agency the last couple years also. this team has had plans and visions for a very long time. They have been swinging and missing mostly. Judge is up at the plate. Lets see what he can do. |
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Post by jb456 on Oct 26, 2021 8:12:19 GMT -5
He's says they will be taking calls and if something is done it will be done with the improvement for the future in mind at all times, That can mean several things they could trade for a young talent or be looking for draft picks, as he said he will take no short cuts think what ever they do guys have to be young enough to give them some years. Thats how they approached free agency the last couple years also. Who could they offer that any other team would want? Only a handful of players on this team are producing, a significant portion are making a lot of money, and the rest are injured. The Giants wouldn't really get anything in return except maybe cap relief? I don't even think the Giants have the potential to get a 4th round pick with what they have. If the Giants start trading for players, they better be able to lock them up or this is a total shit show. |
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 26, 2021 8:54:47 GMT -5
It's concerning that it appears his power has already grown to include GM responsibilities. over and over the present GM and GM's of the past have said how much the HC is involved with the process of the roster, drafting etc. This is nothing new at all I don't understand why the input from a very unsuccessful HC is relevant... |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 26, 2021 9:00:49 GMT -5
any pending FA for a 3rd?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 9:02:35 GMT -5
He's says they will be taking calls and if something is done it will be done with the improvement for the future in mind at all times, That can mean several things they could trade for a young talent or be looking for draft picks, as he said he will take no short cuts think what ever they do guys have to be young enough to give them some years. Thats how they approached free agency the last couple years also. Who could they offer that any other team would want? Only a handful of players on this team are producing, a significant portion are making a lot of money, and the rest are injured. The Giants wouldn't really get anything in return except maybe cap relief? I don't even think the Giants have the potential to get a 4th round pick with what they have. If the Giants start trading for players, they better be able to lock them up or this is a total shit show. The only guys I could see getting traded would be Peppers or Engram because they are in the last years of their contracts Pep is injured so he is out, don't think they will be looking for cap relief with there big contracts it's gonna be the Solders of the world guys like that. they have enough draft capital where if they get there guys healthy they don't need to be playing in free agency again this year. I just reported what I read Judge said anything done will be done with the future and building sustainable success in mind no short cuts. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 9:04:55 GMT -5
He's says they will be taking calls and if something is done it will be done with the improvement for the future in mind at all times, That can mean several things they could trade for a young talent or be looking for draft picks, as he said he will take no short cuts think what ever they do guys have to be young enough to give them some years. Thats how they approached free agency the last couple years also. this team has had plans and visions for a very long time. They have been swinging and missing mostly. Judge is up at the plate. Lets see what he can do. I think they stand pat do nothing and go through the draft get as healthy as as they can and go into next season with the same Idea when this team is healthy they don't need trades and freeagncy they need a good solid draft to get them over the top young players on rookie deals. |
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Post by jb456 on Oct 26, 2021 9:29:33 GMT -5
Who could they offer that any other team would want? Only a handful of players on this team are producing, a significant portion are making a lot of money, and the rest are injured. The Giants wouldn't really get anything in return except maybe cap relief? I don't even think the Giants have the potential to get a 4th round pick with what they have. If the Giants start trading for players, they better be able to lock them up or this is a total shit show. The only guys I could see getting traded would be Peppers or Engram because they are in the last years of their contracts Pep is injured so he is out, don't think they will be looking for cap relief with there big contracts it's gonna be the Solders of the world guys like that. they have enough draft capital where if they get there guys healthy they don't need to be playing in free agency again this year. I just reported what I read Judge said anything done will be done with the future and building sustainable success in mind no short cuts. I didn't think anything negative about the post, it's an interesting dynamic just for the fact that it looks like they are giving Judge greater authority within the organization. (Like you said) Engram is probably literally the only player that they can trade at this point but I struggle to think of what they could get for him. A 4th would be a grand slam IMO, maybe a 5th. They could try to sell him as a probowler but he has horrible mental lapses, doesn't really do contested catches, isn't a good run blocker and has a not so great injury history. Plus, he tends to bat balls in the air and cause interceptions, which is far worse than drops. I don't think a 4th is in the cards for this guy... |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 26, 2021 9:34:40 GMT -5
this team has had plans and visions for a very long time. They have been swinging and missing mostly. Judge is up at the plate. Lets see what he can do. I think they stand pat do nothing and go through the draft get as healthy as as they can and go into next season with the same Idea when this team is healthy they don't need trades and freeagncy they need a good solid draft to get them over the top young players on rookie deals. IDK... Lemeiux unproven, Gates who knows, Hernandez is not looking like he is on upturn, the rest of the "fill ins" on the OL are mix ans match BS. Peart.....still up in the air. Thomas may be a chronic injury type player with BOTH feet now compromised. This team is still a mess on offense |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 26, 2021 10:02:34 GMT -5
It's concerning that it appears his power has already grown to include GM responsibilities. He's answering a question and speaking for the team. He's not saying he's making the decisions. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 26, 2021 10:05:18 GMT -5
Judge offered to trade himself to Carolina for Rhule yet Rhule didn’t want to hear for his head after every decision. More to come.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 26, 2021 10:10:15 GMT -5
if the team does make a move in free agency I would be interested to read what people on this board think what position the team should be looking at...
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 10:13:24 GMT -5
I think they stand pat do nothing and go through the draft get as healthy as as they can and go into next season with the same Idea when this team is healthy they don't need trades and freeagncy they need a good solid draft to get them over the top young players on rookie deals. IDK... Lemeiux unproven, Gates who knows, Hernandez is not looking like he is on upturn, the rest of the "fill ins" on the OL are mix ans match BS. Peart.....still up in the air. Thomas may be a chronic injury type player with BOTH feet now compromised. This team is still a mess on offense Thats what the 5 picks in the top 100 are for and 9 or 10 overall. interior might be flipped just because of Gates injury and Hernandez free agency if some one gives him money like Pugh and Richy got can't see us wanting to match. I'm not worried about Thomas yet. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 10:19:24 GMT -5
The only guys I could see getting traded would be Peppers or Engram because they are in the last years of their contracts Pep is injured so he is out, don't think they will be looking for cap relief with there big contracts it's gonna be the Solders of the world guys like that. they have enough draft capital where if they get there guys healthy they don't need to be playing in free agency again this year. I just reported what I read Judge said anything done will be done with the future and building sustainable success in mind no short cuts. I didn't think anything negative about the post, it's an interesting dynamic just for the fact that it looks like they are giving Judge greater authority within the organization. (Like you said) Engram is probably literally the only player that they can trade at this point but I struggle to think of what they could get for him. A 4th would be a grand slam IMO, maybe a 5th. They could try to sell him as a probowler but he has horrible mental lapses, doesn't really do contested catches, isn't a good run blocker and has a not so great injury history. Plus, he tends to bat balls in the air and cause interceptions, which is far worse than drops. I don't think a 4th is in the cards for this guy... Didn't think were negative just what I read from his conference call agree with all of that. No matter who continues building this team they need to stick to the draft for sustained success, it takes longer and is harder to do but when it is done and caught up the cap can be fairly healthy. and keeping it up is much easier, hope fully they will be at the point when dabbling in free agency they are second wave shoppers for a few holes to be filled. |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 26, 2021 10:27:20 GMT -5
IDK... Lemeiux unproven, Gates who knows, Hernandez is not looking like he is on upturn, the rest of the "fill ins" on the OL are mix ans match BS. Peart.....still up in the air. Thomas may be a chronic injury type player with BOTH feet now compromised. This team is still a mess on offense Thats what the 5 picks in the top 100 are for and 9 or 10 overall. interior might be flipped just because of Gates injury and Hernandez free agency if some one gives him money like Pugh and Richy got can't see us wanting to match. I'm not worried about Thomas yet. cant have a another rookie predominant OL. Maybe one or two at the most. We need a vet above averege OL |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 26, 2021 10:34:37 GMT -5
Thats what the 5 picks in the top 100 are for and 9 or 10 overall. interior might be flipped just because of Gates injury and Hernandez free agency if some one gives him money like Pugh and Richy got can't see us wanting to match. I'm not worried about Thomas yet. cant have a another rookie predominant OL. Maybe one or two at the most. We need a vet above averege OL They need to find out what happening with Gates that is like a double whammy losing 1 but possibly for good when Thomas is back they need to get Peart at RT and leave him there and see if he is the answer i would shift our draft to Edge and Guard and pay price to hold it down draft a 3rd round center let him learn and grow. Their is a lot to find out the remaining games Peart was solid in Dallas and not bad yesterday. |
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