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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 24, 2021 11:57:25 GMT -5
Dave has giving us so much to be thankful for this and every Thanksgiving since arriving.
Please express to our head Turkey 🦃 what you’re thankful for
Mine - Thanks Dave for the 18 wins out of your first 58 games as GM
yours?
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Nov 24, 2021 12:03:09 GMT -5
Thanks for this turkey of a team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 12:04:40 GMT -5
Thanks for proving me correct when I said it was so stupid to hire you Getty!!
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Post by jmike on Nov 24, 2021 12:09:57 GMT -5
Thanks for proving me correct when I said it was so stupid to hire you Getty!! When they first hired him, I was like, great, nothing is going to change. Then he did some things that gave me hope. Hey, maybe I was wrong, he does seem to be making changes. Then he keeps making bad decisions in the draft and free agency. So my initial displeasure has turned out to be accurate, if for the wrong reasons. Things did change, they just didn't change to anything better. Just a different kind of bad. Honestly, his ideas on how to build the team are pretty good for the most part. His execution of it has been terrible though. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 24, 2021 12:14:41 GMT -5
Personally, I want my turkey on the thanksgiving table, not the product my team puts on the field.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 12:23:08 GMT -5
Thanks for proving me correct when I said it was so stupid to hire you Getty!! You know where I stand with this from way back in my group It was worse than I even expected |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 12:23:31 GMT -5
Personally, I want my turkey on the thanksgiving table, not the product my team puts on the field. Something much easier than fixing this situation |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 12:33:07 GMT -5
Thanks for proving me correct when I said it was so stupid to hire you Getty!! When they first hired him, I was like, great, nothing is going to change. Then he did some things that gave me hope. Hey, maybe I was wrong, he does seem to be making changes. Then he keeps making bad decisions in the draft and free agency. So my initial displeasure has turned out to be accurate, if for the wrong reasons. Things did change, they just didn't change to anything better. Just a different kind of bad. Honestly, his ideas on how to build the team are pretty good for the most part. His execution of it has been terrible though. I will have to disagree with you about his "idea on how to build a team".. Actually surprised anyone would say that after what we have witnessed these past 4 years.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 12:34:41 GMT -5
Thanks for proving me correct when I said it was so stupid to hire you Getty!! You know where I stand with this from way back in my group It was worse than I even expected I agree it is so bad that a person trying to sabotage the team wouldn't be able to make it this bad.. Crazy!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 24, 2021 15:30:28 GMT -5
I’m thankful we’re one step closer to being a better team . . . although it might take five more years we’ve already gone though double that to get here.
We were all Giants fans before this mess and will be after . . . whenever after is.
In the meantime, i’m thankful the Giants are the leaders to land Arch Manning
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 24, 2021 15:36:08 GMT -5
I supported the guy his team building philosophy lined up with what this team needed, problem is he didn't execute it, I didn't expect him to cluster draft position after position and Ignore others not one WR besides Slayton until Toney still using Low round picks on ILBs and where good teams are drafting premiere athletic football players to stalk the middle of the field side line to side line, and really I have 0 issue with Dexter Lawrence but the right choice was Montez Sweat. Can't win Getty if you can't protect the passer or rush the passer that is how you get embarrassed, was Monday night enough to shift this whole organizations ancient philosophy we will see.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Nov 24, 2021 17:43:53 GMT -5
Dave has giving us so much to be thankful for this and every Thanksgiving since arriving. Please express to our head Turkey 🦃 what you’re thankful for Mine - Thanks Dave for the 18 wins out of your first 58 games as GM yours? He should not be pardoned this year....  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 17:45:25 GMT -5
Dave has giving us so much to be thankful for this and every Thanksgiving since arriving. Please express to our head Turkey 🦃 what you’re thankful for Mine - Thanks Dave for the 18 wins out of your first 58 games as GM yours? He should not be pardoned this year.... When the turkey smells like a 2 week old dead lobster that washed up on the beach due to red tide in the keys in july |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 17:49:37 GMT -5
Thanks for ramming it up our ass. Enjoy your millions.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 24, 2021 18:03:34 GMT -5
Thankful his tenure is nearing its end. He set this franchise back years with the Barkely pick, and it's starting to look like the Jones pick was just as bad...
That's his legacy...
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 25, 2021 8:46:00 GMT -5
Thankful his tenure is nearing its end. He set this franchise back years with the Barkely pick, and it's starting to look like the Jones pick was just as bad... That's his legacy... crazy, it’s Thanksgiving and we still have SEVEN games to play. Lot of time for a Jones and Barkley to prove something. So important for Jones. |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 25, 2021 9:03:17 GMT -5
it really sucks that you guys who didt want DG were right. being right isnt always a good thing  |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 25, 2021 9:17:28 GMT -5
it really sucks that you guys who didt want DG were right. being right isnt always a good thing i think we were all wrong initially. Gettleman told us what we wanted to hear. Hog mollies, pressuring the QB, etc. Music to our ears. Then he did the opposite. Let’s go HB, let’s grossly overpay for medicore/poor talent (Ogeltree, Solder, countless OL), break up the defense, add zero pass rushers, wreck our salary cap. Coaches let go at an alarming rate due to red flags yet Gettleman is still here. Why? IMO, Double and tripling down on a bad thing is insane. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 25, 2021 9:57:11 GMT -5
Thankful his tenure is nearing its end. He set this franchise back years with the Barkely pick, and it's starting to look like the Jones pick was just as bad... That's his legacy... crazy, it’s Thanksgiving and we still have SEVEN games to play. Lot of time for a Jones and Barkley to prove something. So important for Jones. I hope they do...I am not expecting it, but I hope they do. |
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Post by Bigjeep on Nov 25, 2021 17:55:31 GMT -5
That senseless trade with of all teams, the Jets, was the breaking point for me. Gave me the Turkey trots!  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 25, 2021 18:06:34 GMT -5
it really sucks that you guys who didt want DG were right. being right isnt always a good thing I would have been equally P O Ed witb Riddick(would have much preferred him as I got what I feared,an old school genital addicted way of building a team in this era that went predictably )with what he would have done... Might not have been much better |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 26, 2021 9:31:45 GMT -5
crazy, it’s Thanksgiving and we still have SEVEN games to play. Lot of time for a Jones and Barkley to prove something. So important for Jones. I hope they do...I am not expecting it, but I hope they do. +1 - we’re all hoping for that. Want a different GM to evaluate the incoming class too. IMO, the odds are high and the risk is great on Gettleman being even more desperate in the draft. |
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Post by ocgiant on Nov 26, 2021 11:24:04 GMT -5
Maybe DG has already retired, we just don't know it yet
What can this man possibly say at this point to the media, ownership, players and most importantly the fans
He really needs to go away, quietly, there is nothing I want to hear coming out of his pie hole
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 26, 2021 12:42:54 GMT -5
I hope they do...I am not expecting it, but I hope they do. +1 - we’re all hoping for that. Want a different GM to evaluate the incoming class too. IMO, the odds are high and the risk is great on Gettleman being even more desperate in the draft. They absolutely have to move on from Gettleman...no way they let him anywhere near the draft next season. He's had his chances. |
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 26, 2021 15:54:08 GMT -5
+1 - we’re all hoping for that. Want a different GM to evaluate the incoming class too. IMO, the odds are high and the risk is great on Gettleman being even more desperate in the draft. They absolutely have to move on from Gettleman...no way they let him anywhere near the draft next season. He's had his chances. I get the character building thing, I really do, but NYG needs to add MEAN. Somewhere inbetween "goody two shoes" and a Vontez Burfict team hurting type there are players who can keep it together off the field but "lose it"(in a good way) on the field. I'm thinking defensive players and O linemen. They hold their teammates accountable better than any group of coaches ever could. They play for the money but they play to win even more. I want those guys. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 26, 2021 18:22:30 GMT -5
They absolutely have to move on from Gettleman...no way they let him anywhere near the draft next season. He's had his chances. I get the character building thing, I really do, but NYG needs to add MEAN. Somewhere inbetween "goody two shoes" and a Vontez Burfict team hurting type there are players who can keep it together off the field but "lose it"(in a good way) on the field. I'm thinking defensive players and O linemen. They hold their teammates accountable better than any group of coaches ever could. They play for the money but they play to win even more. I want those guys. I've been saying for awhile, there aren't any "dogs" on this team. Especially on defense. They don't have anybody that scares you or that you have to game plan for. |
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Post by jmike on Nov 29, 2021 9:22:47 GMT -5
When they first hired him, I was like, great, nothing is going to change. Then he did some things that gave me hope. Hey, maybe I was wrong, he does seem to be making changes. Then he keeps making bad decisions in the draft and free agency. So my initial displeasure has turned out to be accurate, if for the wrong reasons. Things did change, they just didn't change to anything better. Just a different kind of bad. Honestly, his ideas on how to build the team are pretty good for the most part. His execution of it has been terrible though. I will have to disagree with you about his "idea on how to build a team".. Actually surprised anyone would say that after what we have witnessed these past 4 years.. Build from the trenches is a sound way to build a team. Really the best way as if you can consistently win on the line of scrimmage, you will always be competitive even if the rest of the team isn't good. That he hasn't managed to find the talent to consistently win in the trenches is the problem though. Good idea or not, you have to execute the idea effectively, and he has not. |
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 29, 2021 9:59:44 GMT -5
there is a lot more wrong with this team than Gettleman...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 10:04:35 GMT -5
I will have to disagree with you about his "idea on how to build a team".. Actually surprised anyone would say that after what we have witnessed these past 4 years.. Build from the trenches is a sound way to build a team. Really the best way as if you can consistently win on the line of scrimmage, you will always be competitive even if the rest of the team isn't good. That he hasn't managed to find the talent to consistently win in the trenches is the problem though. Good idea or not, you have to execute the idea effectively, and he has not. There is nothing good about Getty so please stop.. |
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Post by jmike on Nov 29, 2021 10:21:24 GMT -5
Build from the trenches is a sound way to build a team. Really the best way as if you can consistently win on the line of scrimmage, you will always be competitive even if the rest of the team isn't good. That he hasn't managed to find the talent to consistently win in the trenches is the problem though. Good idea or not, you have to execute the idea effectively, and he has not. There is nothing good about Getty so please stop.. Do you think building from the trenches is a bad idea? FFS man, one can admit an idea is good even if they don't think the person executing the idea is good at it. Building from the trenches is a solid and effective way to build a team. But it requires quite a bit of dedication to it as well as consistent success in finding the right pieces. DG has failed in both. He's drafted 5 OL players in 4 drafts; 3 in the same one; with 2 of them low round picks. He needs to focus more on that because you can't expect to hit on every one. There should be a pick in the first 4 rounds of every draft at OL and DL or Edge as well. Plus he needs to make the right picks more often than not. He is not doing an effective job in getting his plan to build from the trenches done. If he had, and the Giants have a top OL and DL right now; this team would be winning more games. Problem is a poor OL makes a DL worse. Because DL wear out over a game if the OL cannot sustain drives. So the focus needs to start with the OL and continue to feed that OL talent. You can't draft 3 guys in one draft and think you are done. Keep feeding talent there. |
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