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Post by myronguyton on Nov 29, 2021 20:17:25 GMT -5
We could run the table and I still think Gettleman is gone. They might let him retire, or he may be planning on that anyway, but I think he's out regardless of how the Giants finish.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 20:26:41 GMT -5
Look at these QBs we're playing. The defense will play well against these QBs and John Mara will be fooled into thinking this team is any good. Tua Tagovailoa Justin Herbert Dak Prescott Jalen Hurts Andy Dalton/Justin Fields Taylor Heinicke NO NO NO
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 20:28:07 GMT -5
We could run the table and I still think Gettleman is gone. They might let him retire, or he may be planning on that anyway, but I think he's out regardless of how the Giants finish. Run the table he gets to leave on his own terms retirement.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 20:30:19 GMT -5
Guess you were busy or blind during the live thread. I’ll could go through some of the post game threads to provide you direct quotes but I’m not sure it’s worth my time just to say “told you so”. I don't pay any attention to the gameday thread, it's all emotion and no logic. It exists only as a pressure release valve. I'll accept your "I told you so now" and promise to feel sufficiently chastened. No need for you to waste your time finding one or two out of context posts that are an international flight, two cab rides and a 15 minute walk to relevance. I'll accept their existence now with out questions. Excellent, I knew you would accept humility over being wrong. Wise choice.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 29, 2021 20:49:29 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you are looking foward to the Abrams eraerror
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 21:54:42 GMT -5
We scored 13 points against them and relied on Reagor doing his best Evan Engram impression. Every QB on that list is scoring more than 13 points against us. How good are the defenses that we are playing and can our line block anyone? Excellent question.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Nov 29, 2021 22:00:46 GMT -5
Dak & Herbert are the only 2 I can see us having trouble with, the rest should be beatable. We just have to find a way to at least beat Dallas or LA. The team looks like crap we had 4 takeaways and I somehow feel like we didn't deserve to win yesterday. We got away with a P.I. in the end zone and the next play Reagor dropped a pass that would have either been at the 1/2 yard line or might have been a touchdown. The best thing is that I hate the Eagles and i'm glad we beat them.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 22:03:23 GMT -5
This game did not show me that the Giants got better, just showed the Eagles are worse than they appeared. False hope. This guy gets it. I came across one thing after yesterday’s game, the Eagles are putting quarterback on their Christmas list. Hurts was horrible yesterday, and thanks to him and that back up center. We benefited from it. To think the Eagles wanted this guy, and traded Wentz away to keep him shows that they don’t know what the hell they’re doing over there. Picking a game changing QB who overcomes a teams faults is just really hard. Not defending the eagles. Fans are so fast to decide that they need a new QB and they don’t acknowledge there’s alot more Hurts out there than Aaron Rodgers. Anytime the thought “couldn’t be worse” enters someone’s head, they’re automatically wrong. Hurts is worse. You can always get worse.
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Post by DandyDon on Nov 29, 2021 23:24:56 GMT -5
Everyone knows DG won't be the Giants gm next year. Not sure why we need multiple threads to discuss it.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 23:35:27 GMT -5
For those worried that the schedule could save DG, have some faith in our absolutely horrendous o line which will find a way to lose winnable games.
Faith friends. Faith.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 29, 2021 23:41:35 GMT -5
For those worried that the schedule could save DG, have some faith in our absolutely horrendous o line which will find a way to lose winnable games. Faith friends. Faith. What is frightening is one of tbe shit eaters on the O line is a 4 year starter for us that was supposed to be improved ...
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Post by idkaname on Nov 29, 2021 23:42:13 GMT -5
One might say, for every temper tantrum Vinnie throws, theres a straw man aspect to it. The night needs the daylight to confirm its existence. not sure if that’s sarcasm or not cuz I already read your posts in a overly sarcastic Morgan freeman voice for some reason 😂
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 29, 2021 23:45:08 GMT -5
The night needs the daylight to confirm its existence. not sure if that’s sarcasm or not cuz I already read your posts in a overly sarcastic Morgan freeman voice for some reason 😂 Ha..I hear Freeman's voice with his posts as well
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Post by idkaname on Nov 29, 2021 23:45:23 GMT -5
We could run the table.....
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 29, 2021 23:50:06 GMT -5
The night needs the daylight to confirm its existence. not sure if that’s sarcasm or not cuz I already read your posts in a overly sarcastic Morgan freeman voice for some reason 😂 Cool! We should put all the development money into talking posts. I got dibs here.
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Post by idkaname on Nov 29, 2021 23:52:13 GMT -5
not sure if that’s sarcasm or not cuz I already read your posts in a overly sarcastic Morgan freeman voice for some reason 😂 Cool! We should put all the development money into talking posts. I got dibs here. you lost me with that comment mr freeman, I don’t get it 😔
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 29, 2021 23:55:35 GMT -5
Cool! We should put all the development money into talking posts. I got dibs here. you lost me with that comment mr freeman, I don’t get it 😔 just a dumb joke, I was saying the board should develop talking posts so people could actually hear Morgan Freeman's voice when they read my posts. I think people would actually read my posts then, but only for the voice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 7:29:40 GMT -5
you lost me with that comment mr freeman, I don’t get it 😔 just a dumb joke, I was saying the board should develop talking posts so people could actually hear Morgan Freeman's voice when they read my posts. I think people would actually read my posts then, but only for the voice. I don't get the Freeman voice choice but I do read yours in James Hugh Calum Laurie voice for obvious reasons..
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Post by GameTime on Nov 30, 2021 8:10:17 GMT -5
nah... they can win out and DG should still be gone.
deservedly so.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 30, 2021 8:21:57 GMT -5
Only a bad CEO would focus on a few recent games to make the hard call on a GM, missing the big picture as he always does..
Wouldn't be surprised at all if a winning record over our remaining games saves DG.
We all understand JM's MO and it is not a good one. Don't get your hopes up too high on a new GM.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 30, 2021 8:42:12 GMT -5
Only a bad CEO would focus on a few recent games to make the hard call on a GM, missing the big picture as he always does.. Wouldn't be surprised at all if a winning record over our remaining games saves DG. We all understand JM's MO and it is not a good one. Don't get your hopes up too high on a new GM. I can't wait for the Abrams era to start...
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Post by mendy on Nov 30, 2021 8:47:17 GMT -5
Look at these QBs we're playing. The defense will play well against these QBs and John Mara will be fooled into thinking this team is any good. Tua Tagovailoa Justin Herbert Dak Prescott Jalen Hurts Andy Dalton/Justin Fields Taylor Heinicke DG is retiring ,Giants could make the playoffs and he would still leave.
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Post by mendy on Nov 30, 2021 8:57:24 GMT -5
Only a bad CEO would focus on a few recent games to make the hard call on a GM, missing the big picture as he always does.. Wouldn't be surprised at all if a winning record over our remaining games saves DG. We all understand JM's MO and it is not a good one. Don't get your hopes up too high on a new GM. You seem focused on John Mara and his CEO position ,right or wrong that is not changing . Garrett is gone ,DG will be gone .If Abrams is the new GM who knows if they go outside great ,I just don't want Riddick .No matter how much complaining is done John Mara nor the family will give up leadership or control of this team . My brother feels the same as you do and I will say to you what I say to him ,think about what can and will be done not something that will never happen.
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Post by mendy on Nov 30, 2021 8:58:56 GMT -5
Only a bad CEO would focus on a few recent games to make the hard call on a GM, missing the big picture as he always does.. Wouldn't be surprised at all if a winning record over our remaining games saves DG. We all understand JM's MO and it is not a good one. Don't get your hopes up too high on a new GM. I can't wait for the Abrams era to start... Been many a situation were a #2 person coming in to #1 makes changes he wasn't allowed to when just an assistant. I hope they go outside but if not we have a change .
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Post by jb456 on Nov 30, 2021 9:10:52 GMT -5
Look at these QBs we're playing. The defense will play well against these QBs and John Mara will be fooled into thinking this team is any good. Tua Tagovailoa Justin Herbert Dak Prescott Jalen Hurts Andy Dalton/Justin Fields Taylor Heinicke The Giants won't be playing any QBs. Teams play teams, it's not fantasy football. The schedule gets easier for sure but the Giants aren't playing GB (or TB) and that's about the only teams in the league where you may feel the QB is the ultimate difference maker. The Giants will also be playing those offensive lines and every single one of them are much better than the Giants with the exception of Miami's, which is arguably slightly worse. Most the people on this board don't even understand that every other team in the NFC east has a top 10 Oline (Cowboys at #1) while the Giants are ranked bottom 2. It's kind of hard to get any offensive rhythm when you don't run or pass block well. Most of these other QB's sit back and can go through their reads without getting their head taken off. Jones could be unfixable at this point since he is forced into 1 - 2 reads max. Hurts had stupid time to throw the ball against the Giants and the Giants stacked the box, he just sucks.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 30, 2021 9:39:24 GMT -5
If we beat Dallas, everyone's job will be saved. I hope Gettleman falls on his sword and moves to a different position in the org. He does not necessarily need to be fired. I also would not mind having Reese come in to consult on picks.... he knew how to build an OL to some extent. say what you want about Reese but he had two superbowls and he contributed to Accorsi's picks. No way he gets handed the job if that isn't the case. Even Reeses draft busts are now coming into their own. If we had Pugh and Flowers at Guard right now, we'd be pretty good. You called me a racist on this board multiple times, and I asked you to identify one single post of mine ... just one ... to support your accusation. So far, dead silence. Did you think I would forget? Put up or shut up.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 30, 2021 10:13:38 GMT -5
just a dumb joke, I was saying the board should develop talking posts so people could actually hear Morgan Freeman's voice when they read my posts. I think people would actually read my posts then, but only for the voice. I don't get the Freeman voice choice but I do read yours in James Hugh Calum Laurie voice for obvious reasons.. I never knew that was his full name until now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 10:26:06 GMT -5
I don't get the Freeman voice choice but I do read yours in James Hugh Calum Laurie voice for obvious reasons.. I never knew that was his full name until now. Fake fan!!
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 30, 2021 10:32:39 GMT -5
This guy gets it. I came across one thing after yesterday’s game, the Eagles are putting quarterback on their Christmas list. Hurts was horrible yesterday, and thanks to him and that back up center. We benefited from it. To think the Eagles wanted this guy, and traded Wentz away to keep him shows that they don’t know what the hell they’re doing over there. Picking a game changing QB who overcomes a teams faults is just really hard. Not defending the eagles. Fans are so fast to decide that they need a new QB and they don’t acknowledge there’s alot more Hurts out there than Aaron Rodgers. Anytime the thought “couldn’t be worse” enters someone’s head, they’re automatically wrong. Hurts is worse. You can always get worse. Jalen Hurts their chances of making the playoffs. After Sunday’s game, it Hurts like hell for Eagles fans. Watching Jalen play, Hurts my eyes.. Jalens middle name should be “throwing motion”
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Post by Martin on Nov 30, 2021 11:57:51 GMT -5
Name one RPO QB that won a Super Bowl? Don't give me Russell Wilson or Steve Young as they are both pocket passers that have/had exceptional mobility. Really great QB's are hard to come by. And I mean consistent through their career. DG's time is over but as much as I am not a fan of DJ the team around him makes it hard to really evaluate him. I do know one thing he doesn't take control over a game and he looks to fold under pressure. IMO he will be a solid QB. Maybe starter or down grade to a backup but never elite. With the right GM and team he could win big games. Trent Dilfer is that kind of QB that Jones is except Jones has very good mobility but unfortunately he doesn't have that good feel to know when to run it. Hurts has pocket issues like RG3 did with Washington. I am happy that the Eagles have Hurts and all Giants fans should too.
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