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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 1, 2021 15:52:00 GMT -5
Deandre Baker (lol) Lorenzo Carter Tae Crowder Andrew Thomas Azzez Ojulari Isiah Washington Jake Fromm JR Reed So, who is our SEC scout in that region?
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 1, 2021 16:42:50 GMT -5
Deandre Baker (lol) Lorenzo Carter Tae Crowder Andrew Thomas Azzez Ojulari Isiah WashingtonJake Fromm JR Reed So, who is our SEC scout in that region? You mean Wilson Our O line coach was at Georgia.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2021 16:44:03 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 1, 2021 16:45:48 GMT -5
New Orleans have a number of Ohio State players.
WFT, have Alabama players.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 1, 2021 16:51:45 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 YAAAAAS!
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 17:19:38 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Why? How do you envision that working?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2021 18:06:18 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Â Why? Â How do you envision that working? Â I didn't say no pass rushers. I would just love to have this guy. Stop the run. Collapse the pocket in the middle. This guy is a much better prospect than Lawrence IMO. Of course I want an edge guy. And a MLB. This would just be one piece. I think Dean from Georgia is another piece.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 18:17:50 GMT -5
another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Â Why? Â How do you envision that working? Â I didn't say no pass rushers. I would just love to have this guy. Stop the run. Collapse the pocket in the middle. This guy is a much better prospect than Lawrence IMO. Of course I want an edge guy. And a MLB. This would just be one piece. I think Dean from Georgia is another piece. Same player bud as Lawrence. He and Dean and likey going Round 1 so i don't see it.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 1, 2021 18:29:24 GMT -5
This isn't necessarily a bad thing, is it? Georgia this year has one of the best college defenses I've ever seen.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 1, 2021 18:42:15 GMT -5
another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Â Why? Â How do you envision that working? Â I didn't say no pass rushers. I would just love to have this guy. Stop the run. Collapse the pocket in the middle. This guy is a much better prospect than Lawrence IMO. Of course I want an edge guy. And a MLB. This would just be one piece. I think Dean from Georgia is another piece. This guy... Let Lawrence walk in ....what....2024....take a guy mid round to groom to take Lawrences spot in 2023... His value is all over the place right now,I've seen him rated from 15 best player to low 60s.... Somehow we get Davis witb our 2nd and Linderbaum and (insert edge guy here)with our 2 firsts and the 2022 draft is a grand salami
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2021 18:49:50 GMT -5
I didn't say no pass rushers. I would just love to have this guy. Stop the run. Collapse the pocket in the middle. This guy is a much better prospect than Lawrence IMO. Of course I want an edge guy. And a MLB. This would just be one piece. I think Dean from Georgia is another piece. This guy... Let Lawrence walk in ....what....2024....take a guy mid round to groom to take Lawrences spot in 2023... His value is all over the place right now,I've seen him rated from 15 best player to low 60s.... Somehow we get Davis witb our 2nd and Linderbaum and (insert edge guy here)with our 2 firsts and the 2022 draft is a grand salami I would agree with that. As I said numerous times, Hutchinson and Linderbaum would be my ideal 1a and 1b picks.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 1, 2021 18:51:38 GMT -5
This guy... Let Lawrence walk in ....what....2024....take a guy mid round to groom to take Lawrences spot in 2023... His value is all over the place right now,I've seen him rated from 15 best player to low 60s.... Somehow we get Davis witb our 2nd and Linderbaum and (insert edge guy here)with our 2 firsts and the 2022 draft is a grand salami I would agree with that. As I said numerous times, Hutchinson and Linderbaum would be my ideal 1a and 1b picks. Unfortunately Hutchinson looks impossible now. 😞 We need to start researching Ojabo,Jackson (USC ) as they as of now are the next 2 guys
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 19:05:58 GMT -5
This guy... Let Lawrence walk in ....what....2024....take a guy mid round to groom to take Lawrences spot in 2023... His value is all over the place right now,I've seen him rated from 15 best player to low 60s.... Somehow we get Davis witb our 2nd and Linderbaum and (insert edge guy here)with our 2 firsts and the 2022 draft is a grand salami I would agree with that. As I said numerous times, Hutchinson and Linderbaum would be my ideal 1a and 1b picks. draft this kid in preparation for Lawrence leaving in 2024 or others ? So many holes in need of filling so draft to replace others. Really sad Hutchinson would be ideal and is possible within the top 4 imo. Karalaftis is very good too with Thibadeux (spell) a maybe. Great draft for linemen and pass rushers with more linemen imo. Again, not touching a Center that early with Guard/tackle unsettled and very solid prospect there imo. If the Giants are looking for BAP, i wouldn’t be shocked if it’s Hamilton . . . yet we might need a QB, again.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 1, 2021 22:10:30 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 This dude reminds me of big John Henderson when he was with Jacksonville the trainer used to slap him as hard as he could across the face right before he went out of the tunnel.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2021 22:51:31 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 This dude reminds me of big John Henderson when he was with Jacksonville the trainer used to slap him as hard as he could across the face right before he went out of the tunnel. He certainly would allow Leonard Willaims to eat again.
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Post by ocgiant on Dec 1, 2021 23:41:22 GMT -5
Take more PAC 12 Players...
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 13:17:15 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 While he wouldn't be my 1st pick, maybe not even my 2nd, but he would be my favorite pick this offseason Dude would transform this defense
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 2, 2021 13:30:49 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 This dude reminds me of big John Henderson when he was with Jacksonville the trainer used to slap him as hard as he could across the face right before he went out of the tunnel. Henderson was a very good player. Him and Stroud made it near to impossible to run up the middle on those Jaguars teams.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 13:32:15 GMT -5
Ill take at least one more in 2022 another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Â Why? Â How do you envision that working? Â Who said no pass rushers?? This guy isn't another Lawrence, he's either a 0, 1, 2, maybe even a 3-tech on a good day. Lawrence is more of a 2, 3, 4, or 5-tech guy. In the simplest terms, Davis is most likely a NT, while Lawrence is a DT
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Post by lt56 on Dec 2, 2021 14:14:29 GMT -5
Jordan Davis is no 2 Down Run Stopper, that man is a damn good athlete especially for a man his size...
also a good young man off the field so yeah sign me up for more Georgia and SEC Players why not
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 14:51:56 GMT -5
another Lawrence and no pass rushers. Â Why? Â How do you envision that working? Â Who said no pass rushers?? This guy isn't another Lawrence, he's either a 0, 1, 2, maybe even a 3-tech on a good day. Lawrence is more of a 2, 3, 4, or 5-tech guy. In the simplest terms, Davis is most likely a NT, while Lawrence is a DT Lawrence is 0,1 and 2. Go look at college and many of the Giants games. Look at his mic'd up game this year vs the Saints. Just b/c he gets moved around a bit doesn't mean he's not a 0, 1, 2. There is absolutely no way he's a 4 or 5 in this league where a man his size can run around and pursue without being gassed by qt 3. Com'on, you have to know that.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 15:01:56 GMT -5
Who said no pass rushers?? This guy isn't another Lawrence, he's either a 0, 1, 2, maybe even a 3-tech on a good day. Lawrence is more of a 2, 3, 4, or 5-tech guy. In the simplest terms, Davis is most likely a NT, while Lawrence is a DT Lawrence is 0,1 and 2. Go look at college and many of the Giants games. Look at his mic'd up game this year vs the Saints. Just b/c he gets moved around a bit doesn't mean he's not a 0, 1, 2. There is absolutely no way he's a 4 or 5 in this league where a man his size can run around and pursue without being gassed by qt 3. Com'on, you have to know that. I disagree about Lawrence being a 0 or 1. It was what I was hoping for when we drafted him but he seems to line up mostly attacking the B gap, so not where a NT would play. OK maybe 5 was a stretch, but he is not a 0 or 1-tech either, that's Shelton. Are you happy with how susceptible we are ti runs up the middle right now?? You know who would help combat that right??
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 15:10:48 GMT -5
Lawrence is 0,1 and 2. Go look at college and many of the Giants games. Look at his mic'd up game this year vs the Saints. Just b/c he gets moved around a bit doesn't mean he's not a 0, 1, 2. There is absolutely no way he's a 4 or 5 in this league where a man his size can run around and pursue without being gassed by qt 3. Com'on, you have to know that. I disagree about Lawrence being a 0 or 1. It was what I was hoping for when we drafted him but he seems to line up mostly attacking the B gap, so not where a NT would play. OK maybe 5 was a stretch, but he is not a 0 or 1-tech either, that's Shelton. Are you happy with how susceptible we are ti runs up the middle right now?? You know who would help combat that right?? watch the games.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 15:16:55 GMT -5
This dude reminds me of big John Henderson when he was with Jacksonville the trainer used to slap him as hard as he could across the face right before he went out of the tunnel. Henderson was a very good player. Him and Stroud made it near to impossible to run up the middle on those Jaguars teams. Remember his pregame ritual when the trainer would wind up and slap as hard as he could across the face dude was a bad man. Those were 2 beast this kid looks like he can be that kind of player never know till they line up against NFL OLs tho.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 15:27:54 GMT -5
I disagree about Lawrence being a 0 or 1. It was what I was hoping for when we drafted him but he seems to line up mostly attacking the B gap, so not where a NT would play. OK maybe 5 was a stretch, but he is not a 0 or 1-tech either, that's Shelton. Are you happy with how susceptible we are ti runs up the middle right now?? You know who would help combat that right?? watch the games. I could say the same to you.... "Watch the game" is like THEE laziest response out there In that video, the majority of his Snaps are 2-tech with him shooting on either side of the guard
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 15:28:06 GMT -5
Lawrence is 0,1 and 2. Go look at college and many of the Giants games. Look at his mic'd up game this year vs the Saints. Just b/c he gets moved around a bit doesn't mean he's not a 0, 1, 2. There is absolutely no way he's a 4 or 5 in this league where a man his size can run around and pursue without being gassed by qt 3. Com'on, you have to know that. I disagree about Lawrence being a 0 or 1. It was what I was hoping for when we drafted him but he seems to line up mostly attacking the B gap, so not where a NT would play. OK maybe 5 was a stretch, but he is not a 0 or 1-tech either, that's Shelton. Are you happy with how susceptible we are ti runs up the middle right now?? You know who would help combat that right?? Tell you what Wlliams Davis Lawrence would be sicker then when DT was here and it would make a world of difference for Martinez when he gets back next year, tough decisions to be made do we want push edge down to the second round.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 15:36:32 GMT -5
I could say the same to you.... "Watch the game" is like THEE laziest response out there In that video, the majority of his Snaps are 2-tech with him shooting on either side of the guard Right!!' He's 0,1 or 2. Lol. Watch the games!!! What's lazy is barking out delusions and presenting that as objective evidence. Even lazier is dismissing the video.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 15:40:11 GMT -5
I disagree about Lawrence being a 0 or 1. It was what I was hoping for when we drafted him but he seems to line up mostly attacking the B gap, so not where a NT would play. OK maybe 5 was a stretch, but he is not a 0 or 1-tech either, that's Shelton. Are you happy with how susceptible we are ti runs up the middle right now?? You know who would help combat that right?? Tell you what Wlliams  Davis  Lawrence would be sicker then when DT was here and it would make a world of difference for Martinez when he gets back next year,  tough decisions to be made do we want push edge down to the second round. Well I don't think we will have a shot at Thibodaux or Hutchinson so I think the best thing to do would be wait til the 2nd round and maybe target Kingsley Enagbare, Drake Jackson, or Myjai Sanders. Today I'm leaning towards 1a. Icky Ekwonu, OT/OG, NC State 1b. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa 2. Enagbare, Jackson, or Sanders, EDGE Who knows, I'll probably change 2 more times before the day is over
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 15:41:30 GMT -5
Jordan Davis is no 2 Down Run Stopper, that man is a damn good athlete especially for a man his size... also a good young man off the field so yeah sign me up for more Georgia and SEC Players why not Would take this bulldog in second our division with Dallas and the Eagles can punch you in the mouth, WFT runs it but the do it different we still have to stop it, when they straight up challenged the Seattles front to stop them on 3rd downs for the most part they did Seattles front stood tall, We had that the loss of DT stings think Lawrence can doit he has had some success there but he is better where he is at with legit NT. our DL needs to be able to win up front in this division.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 15:43:56 GMT -5
Tell you what Wlliams Davis Lawrence would be sicker then when DT was here and it would make a world of difference for Martinez when he gets back next year, tough decisions to be made do we want push edge down to the second round. Well I don't think we will have a shot at Thibodaux or Hutchinson so I think the best thing to do would be wait til the 2nd round and maybe target Kingsley Enagbare, Drake Jackson, or Myjai Sanders. Today I'm leaning towards 1a. Icky Ekwonu, OT/OG, NC State 1b. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa 2. Enagbare, Jackson, or Sanders, EDGE Who knows, I'll probably change 2 more times before the day is over I count on you guys then I do my research Aris/ Legacy also and a host of others. I see guys on Saturday and three weeks later all I remember is the # lol.
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