|
Post by EliQB10 on May 24, 2018 8:08:29 GMT -5
www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/57199/who-is-next-in-line-for-the-giants-behind-eli-manningJordan Raanan ESPN Staff Writer EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Davis Webb looked around the quarterback room earlier this spring and saw it was a two-man club. Webb and Eli Manning were the only quarterbacks on the New York Giants' roster at the time. The two were working side by side, with the youngster following the veteran every day like a puppy dog, according to general manager Dave Gettleman. It was sufficient for the time being. This was before the draft. They knew there would be additions, possibly even with the No. 2 pick. That didn’t happen, but the room did eventually get more crowded. The Giants drafted Richmond’s Kyle Lauletta in the fourth round, No. 108 overall. They also signed veteran Alex Tanney several days later. “I knew we were going to do something,” Webb said earlier this week after working with the second-string offense at OTAs. “I knew we needed three, four guys. I expected us to take somebody, whether it be in free agency, which we did with Alex, or draft like we did with Kyle. “I expected that. Not from a Davis perspective, but from a GM perspective, you had to do it.” It has set the stage for a crucial summer and interesting future. Manning begins as the clear-cut first-team starter with Webb the favorite to be the backup. Lauletta is the young project who will have the opportunity to make serious inroads, while Tanney has the deck stacked against him behind a two-time Super Bowl winner, last year’s third-round pick and this year’s fourth-rounder. Read more...
|
|
|
Post by qbsneak on May 24, 2018 9:22:51 GMT -5
Hopefully Eli plays every game so the backup QB will just be holding a clipboard.
Improved O-line and running game will help Eli and not make our play calling so predictable. I look forward to Eli throwing the ball downfield - which he excels at.
|
|
CrushGroove
Special Teams
Grouchy Tiger Squad
Posts: 315
|
Post by CrushGroove on May 24, 2018 10:33:24 GMT -5
Webb will be the 2nd string QB, unless he poops the bed in preseason. If he does, it leaves it open for Lauletta to swoop in as the number 2.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 10:35:31 GMT -5
Hopefully Eli plays every game so the backup QB will just be holding a clipboard. Improved O-line and running game will help Eli and not make our play calling so predictable. I look forward to Eli throwing the ball downfield - which he excels at. We pretty much NEED Eli to play every game now. Until we can find a suitable replacement for him in the 2019 draft, Eli is essentially the only game in town.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 10:58:14 GMT -5
Hopefully Eli plays every game so the backup QB will just be holding a clipboard. Improved O-line and running game will help Eli and not make our play calling so predictable. I look forward to Eli throwing the ball downfield - which he excels at. We pretty much NEED Eli to play every game now. Until we can find a suitable replacement for him in the 2019 draft, Eli is essentially the only game in town. So you know for sure that Webb or Lauletta isn't that future guy? If so, what do you know that the rest of us do not?
|
|
|
Post by GameTime on May 24, 2018 11:01:14 GMT -5
2018 would have been the same regardless of the Giants #2 pick. Eli is starting no matter what barring injury. Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, etc would have all been holding the clipboard.
|
|
|
Post by EliQB10 on May 24, 2018 11:25:29 GMT -5
2018 would have been the same regardless of the Giants #2 pick. Eli is starting no matter what barring injury. Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, etc would have all been holding the clipboard. I agree
|
|
|
Post by EliQB10 on May 24, 2018 11:27:44 GMT -5
Webb will be the 2nd string QB, unless he poops the bed in preseason. If he does, it leaves it open for Lauletta to swoop in as the number 2. If Webb does poop the bed as you say it will be a no brainer for the new regime to give it to Lauletta since he is their guy...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:08:20 GMT -5
We pretty much NEED Eli to play every game now. Until we can find a suitable replacement for him in the 2019 draft, Eli is essentially the only game in town. So you know for sure that Webb or Lauletta isn't that future guy? If so, what do you know that the rest of us do not? Like everybody else, I don't know for sure. Just like I don't know for sure that Ereck Flowers won't become a perennial All-Pro at RT. Call it a hunch.
|
|
|
Post by EliQB10 on May 24, 2018 12:26:14 GMT -5
So you know for sure that Webb or Lauletta isn't that future guy? If so, what do you know that the rest of us do not? Like everybody else, I don't know for sure. Just like I don't know for sure that Ereck Flowers won't become a perennial All-Pro at RT. Call it a hunch. Oh c'mon Bronx, I thought you have a crystal ball and could predict The future? 😉
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:40:28 GMT -5
Like everybody else, I don't know for sure. Just like I don't know for sure that Ereck Flowers won't become a perennial All-Pro at RT. Call it a hunch. Oh c'mon Bronx, I thought you have a crystal ball and could predict The future? 😉 Nope. Just been around long enough to know that knowledge of the past can help predict the future
|
|
|
Post by EliQB10 on May 24, 2018 12:42:28 GMT -5
Oh c'mon Bronx, I thought you have a crystal ball and could predict The future? 😉 Nope. Just been around long enough to know that knowledge of the past can help predict the future 😊
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 24, 2018 15:25:02 GMT -5
Oh c'mon Bronx, I thought you have a crystal ball and could predict The future? 😉 Nope. Just been around long enough to know that knowledge of the past can help predict the future Can should be changed to may.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 16:14:05 GMT -5
Nope. Just been around long enough to know that knowledge of the past can help predict the future Can should be changed to may.
|
|
|
Post by KingCap88 on May 28, 2018 10:27:39 GMT -5
Webb will probably win the back-up job, but if Shurmur and Gettleman had complete confidence in Webb they wouldn't have drafted Lauletta. Now if Eli struggles in 2018 then we'll likely see Webb and Lauletta on the field at some point.
|
|
|
Post by DandyDon on May 29, 2018 11:47:47 GMT -5
if Shurmur and Gettleman had complete confidence in Webb they wouldn't have drafted Lauletta. I dont think that is necessarily true. IMO, since they did not pick a QB at 2, they are going with the quantity over quality route, and taking a flyer on lower ranked guys who they think they can groom. And its hard to have complete confidence in any QB that has not taken an NFL snap, even a 1st rounder.
|
|
|
Post by KingCap88 on May 30, 2018 10:14:11 GMT -5
if Shurmur and Gettleman had complete confidence in Webb they wouldn't have drafted Lauletta. I dont think that is necessarily true. IMO, since they did not pick a QB at 2, they are going with the quantity over quality route, and taking a flyer on lower ranked guys who they think they can groom. And its hard to have complete confidence in any QB that has not taken an NFL snap, even a 1st rounder. I agree to a point about the quantity over quality, since Eli's not getting any younger and no one still has any idea about Webb since he didn't play last year. But I also believe that Gettleman and Shurmur wanted a QB that they selected on the roster even if he's a 4th round pick.
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 30, 2018 10:32:56 GMT -5
It will be a sign of confidence by Shurmur and Gettleman if Webb is the backup this year.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 11:34:06 GMT -5
It will be a sign of confidence by Shurmur and Gettleman if Webb is the backup this year. Why? Somebody's got to be the #2. I say flip a coin.
|
|
|
Post by Fletch842 on May 30, 2018 11:55:03 GMT -5
It will be a sign of confidence by Shurmur and Gettleman if Webb is the backup this year. Why? Somebody's got to be the #2. I say flip a coin. so far in OTA's Webb is the clear #2.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 12:04:40 GMT -5
Why? Somebody's got to be the #2. I say flip a coin. so far in OTA's Webb is the clear #2. I guess when it makes very little difference, then seniority should be the deciding factor. Webb's hire date is 4/28/17, while Lauletta's is 4/27/18.
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 30, 2018 12:17:58 GMT -5
It will be a sign of confidence by Shurmur and Gettleman if Webb is the backup this year. Why? Somebody's got to be the #2. I say flip a coin. You would say something like that. If they don’t have confidence in Webb they will pick up a veteran as a backup.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 12:54:33 GMT -5
Why? Somebody's got to be the #2. I say flip a coin. You would say something like that. If they don’t have confidence in Webb they will pick up a veteran as a backup. I guess it won't be Geno Smith...the Chargers already snapped him up.
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 30, 2018 15:09:16 GMT -5
You would say something like that. If they don’t have confidence in Webb they will pick up a veteran as a backup. I guess it won't be Geno Smith...the Chargers already snapped him up. Do you think that’s a bad thing for the Giants?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 15:53:24 GMT -5
I guess it won't be Geno Smith...the Chargers already snapped him up. Do you think that’s a bad thing for the Giants? Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically?
|
|
|
Post by Sarcasman on May 30, 2018 16:41:21 GMT -5
Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically? I guess it depends on what the plans of the FO are. If they are about the future no, he's not a better option. He was a better option last year in the mind of a HC who is no longer there.
|
|
|
Post by Fletch842 on May 30, 2018 17:07:20 GMT -5
Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically? I guess it depends on what the plans of the FO are. If they are about the future no, he's not a better option. He was a better option last year in the mind of a HC who is no longer there. this
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 30, 2018 17:47:43 GMT -5
Do you think that’s a bad thing for the Giants? Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically? Be clear. Does your answer mean you would want Geno as the backup QB this year? Yes or no will suffice.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 18:05:39 GMT -5
Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically? Be clear. Does your answer mean you would want Geno as the backup QB this year? Yes or no will suffice. I think we need a backup quarterback that we can be reasonably confident could do the job if Eli were to go down. At this point in time, the only option to affect that would be to pick up a veteran with fairly significant NFL experience (a guy with at least 100 career passing yards). Geno Smith would fit that bill. Would he be my FIRST choice? No. But would I feel a little more comfortable with Geno on the bench? Yep. So, there you go...I guess my answer is yes. And, apparently I'm not the only one that believes that Geno isn't the worthless scrub that so many on Giants message boards like to portray him as. Following is an article from back in March before the Chargers made him Rivers' backup: www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/dear-nfl-gms-3-reasons-geno-smith-great-fa-signing-article-1.3874086
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 18:06:31 GMT -5
Well, Geno Smith was clearly the better option between he and Davis Webb in week 13 of last season. So, six months later...has that changed dramatically? I guess it depends on what the plans of the FO are. If they are about the future no, he's not a better option. He was a better option last year in the mind of a HC who is no longer there. Do you believe that McAdoo was alone in that assessment?
|
|