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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 4, 2022 7:18:06 GMT -5
1. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: EDGE AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN WOLVERINES 2. DETROIT LIONS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON DUCKS 3. HOUSTON TEXANS: CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU TIGERS 4. NEW YORK JETS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH 5. NEW YORK GIANTS: EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE BOILERMAKERS
Karlaftis, who was born in Athens, Greece, is the “Greek Freak” of college football. He is one of the most powerful defensive ends in the country, and he pairs that strength with arguably the best hand usage in the class and an explosive get-off that makes life tough on opposing offensive tackles.
The 6-foot-4, 275-pound Boilermaker showed a lot of promise as an underclassman and maximized his full potential as a true junior, as evidenced by his 90.6 pass-rush grade this season.6. CAROLINA PANTHERS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE 7. NEW YORK JETS (VIA SEATTLE): LB NAKOBE DEAN, GEORGIA BULLDOGS 8. NEW YORK GIANTS (VIA CHICAGO): C TYLER LINDERBAUM, IOWA HAWKEYESLinderbaum went from defensive tackle to the best offensive lineman in college football in just two years.
The 6-foot-3, 290-pound Iowa product played both sides of the ball in high school and was recruited to play on the interior defensive line, where he logged 18 snaps in his first college season. He then flipped to center for the 2019 campaign, where he started and recorded the fifth-best grade in the FBS at the position (81.7). Linderbaum then claimed the No. 1 spot in 2020 before making history in 2021, closing out his fourth and final year as a Hawkeye by tying for the highest single-season PFF grade from a Power Five center (94.4).9. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM: QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS 10. ATLANTA FALCONS: IOL IKEM EKWONU, N.C. STATE WOLFPACK See the rest here |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 4, 2022 7:37:34 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 4, 2022 8:38:09 GMT -5
I cant see Thibs falling to 5. Maybe 3. Karlaftis is pretty solid. Just behind the top 2 pass rushers IMO. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 4, 2022 8:48:39 GMT -5
I cant see Thibs falling to 5. Maybe 3. Karlaftis is pretty solid. Just behind the top 2 pass rushers IMO. I hear you, but that would be a nice one/two punch for us... |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 9:03:39 GMT -5
I see Jacksonville taking Neal too. The franchise is Lawrence.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 10:45:45 GMT -5
Does Karlaftis fit this defense is the question? Our traditional four man front, he’s a no-brainer. This defense? Can get creative with the front four yet the linebackers don’t fit. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 10:53:01 GMT -5
Still don't know if I value edge rusher over OT at this point. Personally, I'd be happier with Ekwonu and Drake Jackson/Myjai Sanders/Kingsley Enagbare over Karlaftis and Darrian Kinnard/Danny Faalele
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 10:55:48 GMT -5
Does Karlaftis fit this defense is the question? Our traditional four man front, he’s a no-brainer. This defense? Can get creative with the front four yet the linebackers don’t fit. I figured you'd like him as a 3-4 DE, weren't you the one saying how D-Law was best utilized from over center?? I honestly haven't studied enough tape on him to make a solid call |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 11:09:19 GMT -5
Does Karlaftis fit this defense is the question? Our traditional four man front, he’s a no-brainer. This defense? Can get creative with the front four yet the linebackers don’t fit. I figured you'd like him as a 3-4 DE, weren't you the one saying how D-Law was best utilized from over center?? I honestly haven't studied enough tape on him to make a solid call yes, but is this kid a 3-4 DE? He’s a bit Tuck like so it’s possible but he’s a bit undersized for that role here and might be a bit oversized for OLB. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 11:15:33 GMT -5
I figured you'd like him as a 3-4 DE, weren't you the one saying how D-Law was best utilized from over center?? I honestly haven't studied enough tape on him to make a solid call yes, but is this kid a 3-4 DE? He’s a bit Tuck like so it’s possible but he’s a bit undersized for that role here and might be a bit oversized for OLB. At 275, I feel like he could put on an extra 10-15lb and it wouldn't change his game much. I feel like he could be a Tuck or JJ type of player |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 11:17:57 GMT -5
yes, but is this kid a 3-4 DE? He’s a bit Tuck like so it’s possible but he’s a bit undersized for that role here and might be a bit oversized for OLB. At 275, I feel like he could put on an extra 10-15lb and it wouldn't change his game much. I feel like he could be a Tuck or JJ type of player maybe. He has a high motor which i like a lot. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 11:43:15 GMT -5
At 275, I feel like he could put on an extra 10-15lb and it wouldn't change his game much. I feel like he could be a Tuck or JJ type of player maybe. He has a high motor which i like a lot. From what I've read, he's got a high motor, great hands, incredible power, a plethora of pass rush moves, and a good 1st step. Sounds like his biggest drawbacks are his length and his lateral quickness |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 12:13:05 GMT -5
maybe. He has a high motor which i like a lot. From what I've read, he's got a high motor, great hands, incredible power, a plethora of pass rush moves, and a good 1st step. Sounds like his biggest drawbacks are his length and his lateral quickness yeah, and it’s possible he fits the 3-4. I just don’t know b/c he’s 275lbs. His trunk is bigger, kinda like Tuck but he doesn’t appear to have those JPP, Osi, Kiwi type hips. He’s not wiry and he’s not 3-4 heavy. He’s kinda between. All i know is like him . . . but does he fit? lol |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 12:42:24 GMT -5
From what I've read, he's got a high motor, great hands, incredible power, a plethora of pass rush moves, and a good 1st step. Sounds like his biggest drawbacks are his length and his lateral quickness yeah, and it’s possible he fits the 3-4. I just don’t know b/c he’s 275lbs. His trunk is bigger, kinda like Tuck but he doesn’t appear to have those JPP, Osi, Kiwi type hips. He’s not wiry and he’s not 3-4 heavy. He’s kinda between. All i know is like him . . . but does he fit? lol Aren't most 3-4 DEs floating around that 290lb range?? He doesn't have the arm length, flexibility, lateral agility, or tackle radius like the aforementioned, but as long as we don't task him with dropping into coverage we should be able to hide his deficiencies.... Still not in my top 4 pass rushers, maybe #5 for me, LOP |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 12:46:08 GMT -5
yeah, and it’s possible he fits the 3-4. I just don’t know b/c he’s 275lbs. His trunk is bigger, kinda like Tuck but he doesn’t appear to have those JPP, Osi, Kiwi type hips. He’s not wiry and he’s not 3-4 heavy. He’s kinda between. All i know is like him . . . but does he fit? lol Aren't most 3-4 DEs floating around that 290lb range?? He doesn't have the arm length, flexibility, lateral agility, or tackle radius like the aforementioned, but as long as we don't task him with dropping into coverage we should be able to hide his deficiencies.... Still not in my top 4 pass rushers, maybe #5 for me, LOP who are the top 3-5? We know the top 2? |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 4, 2022 12:54:57 GMT -5
Aren't most 3-4 DEs floating around that 290lb range?? He doesn't have the arm length, flexibility, lateral agility, or tackle radius like the aforementioned, but as long as we don't task him with dropping into coverage we should be able to hide his deficiencies.... Still not in my top 4 pass rushers, maybe #5 for me, LOP who are the top 3-5? We know the top 2? 1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 12:58:46 GMT -5
who are the top 3-5? We know the top 2? 1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 so you want 3 and 4 as the OLB right? They’re going to drop beyond the top 10 |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 4, 2022 16:11:33 GMT -5
who are the top 3-5? We know the top 2? 1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 What about Williams from Ole Miss? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 4, 2022 16:44:32 GMT -5
1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 What about Williams from Ole Miss? after his top 5 (7). Imo, that kid is a better athlete than Fball player. We’ll see. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 5, 2022 9:51:32 GMT -5
1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 so you want 3 and 4 as the OLB right? They’re going to drop beyond the top 10 Yea, Sanders and Jackson are strictly 3-4 OLB guys and I could see both of them making it to the 2nd round |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 5, 2022 9:54:45 GMT -5
1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 What about Williams from Ole Miss? Meh, he seems like another Quincy Roche, and I'm fine with the Roche we already have. Doesn't seem like a dynamic pass rusher or edge setter, but someone with a good motor, decent technician, who can get the job done despite athletic limitations |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 6, 2022 19:16:24 GMT -5
1. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: EDGE AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN WOLVERINES 2. DETROIT LIONS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON DUCKS 3. HOUSTON TEXANS: CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU TIGERS 4. NEW YORK JETS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH 5. NEW YORK GIANTS: EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE BOILERMAKERS
Karlaftis, who was born in Athens, Greece, is the “Greek Freak” of college football. He is one of the most powerful defensive ends in the country, and he pairs that strength with arguably the best hand usage in the class and an explosive get-off that makes life tough on opposing offensive tackles.
The 6-foot-4, 275-pound Boilermaker showed a lot of promise as an underclassman and maximized his full potential as a true junior, as evidenced by his 90.6 pass-rush grade this season.6. CAROLINA PANTHERS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE 7. NEW YORK JETS (VIA SEATTLE): LB NAKOBE DEAN, GEORGIA BULLDOGS 8. NEW YORK GIANTS (VIA CHICAGO): C TYLER LINDERBAUM, IOWA HAWKEYESLinderbaum went from defensive tackle to the best offensive lineman in college football in just two years.
The 6-foot-3, 290-pound Iowa product played both sides of the ball in high school and was recruited to play on the interior defensive line, where he logged 18 snaps in his first college season. He then flipped to center for the 2019 campaign, where he started and recorded the fifth-best grade in the FBS at the position (81.7). Linderbaum then claimed the No. 1 spot in 2020 before making history in 2021, closing out his fourth and final year as a Hawkeye by tying for the highest single-season PFF grade from a Power Five center (94.4).9. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM: QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS 10. ATLANTA FALCONS: IOL IKEM EKWONU, N.C. STATE WOLFPACK See the rest hereIf this is our drat I’d be done …. I don’t think Karlaftis is the right player for this team and I’d take Ikem Ekwonu over Liderbaum. I’d even go #5. Cross #8. Ekwonu that’s your LG and your RT. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 6, 2022 19:18:39 GMT -5
1. Thibs 2. Hutch 3. Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati 4. Drake Jackson, USC 5. Karlaftis?? Jermaine Johnson?? Kingsley Enagbare?? Especially if we are lining up in a 3-4 so you want 3 and 4 as the OLB right? They’re going to drop beyond the top 10 I have Karlaftis as the 4th best pass rusher. I have Jermaine Johnson ahead of him as a better scheme fit. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 6, 2022 19:20:06 GMT -5
Still don't know if I value edge rusher over OT at this point. Personally, I'd be happier with Ekwonu and Drake Jackson/Myjai Sanders/Kingsley Enagbare over Karlaftis and Darrian Kinnard/Danny Faalele I’m with you Kase. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 6, 2022 19:26:14 GMT -5
What about Williams from Ole Miss? after his top 5 (7). Imo, that kid is a better athlete than Fball player. We’ll see. Sam Williams has some character red flags so with all the nonsense about culture you can eliminate him automatically |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 6, 2022 19:39:53 GMT -5
1. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: EDGE AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN WOLVERINES 2. DETROIT LIONS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON DUCKS 3. HOUSTON TEXANS: CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU TIGERS 4. NEW YORK JETS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH 5. NEW YORK GIANTS: EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE BOILERMAKERS
Karlaftis, who was born in Athens, Greece, is the “Greek Freak” of college football. He is one of the most powerful defensive ends in the country, and he pairs that strength with arguably the best hand usage in the class and an explosive get-off that makes life tough on opposing offensive tackles.
The 6-foot-4, 275-pound Boilermaker showed a lot of promise as an underclassman and maximized his full potential as a true junior, as evidenced by his 90.6 pass-rush grade this season.6. CAROLINA PANTHERS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE 7. NEW YORK JETS (VIA SEATTLE): LB NAKOBE DEAN, GEORGIA BULLDOGS 8. NEW YORK GIANTS (VIA CHICAGO): C TYLER LINDERBAUM, IOWA HAWKEYESLinderbaum went from defensive tackle to the best offensive lineman in college football in just two years.
The 6-foot-3, 290-pound Iowa product played both sides of the ball in high school and was recruited to play on the interior defensive line, where he logged 18 snaps in his first college season. He then flipped to center for the 2019 campaign, where he started and recorded the fifth-best grade in the FBS at the position (81.7). Linderbaum then claimed the No. 1 spot in 2020 before making history in 2021, closing out his fourth and final year as a Hawkeye by tying for the highest single-season PFF grade from a Power Five center (94.4).9. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM: QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS 10. ATLANTA FALCONS: IOL IKEM EKWONU, N.C. STATE WOLFPACK See the rest hereIf this is our drat I’d be done …. I don’t think Karlaftis is the right player for this team and I’d take Ikem Ekwonu over Liderbaum. I’d even go #5. Cross #8. Ekwonu that’s your LG and your RT. I am leaning towards Ekwonu over Neal, and would take either tackle over Linderbaum. If we get 2 of the 3, I'll be ecstatic. If we get one of the three with either Thibs or Hutch, I'll be quite pleased as well. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 6, 2022 21:26:46 GMT -5
If this is our drat I’d be done …. I don’t think Karlaftis is the right player for this team and I’d take Ikem Ekwonu over Liderbaum. I’d even go #5. Cross #8. Ekwonu that’s your LG and your RT. I am leaning towards Ekwonu over Neal, and would take either tackle over Linderbaum. If we get 2 of the 3, I'll be ecstatic. If we get one of the three with either Thibs or Hutch, I'll be quite pleased as well. Mr. Fletch if we get either THIBS or Hutchinson and either of the Tackles that’s a great victory towards building a great team. If we are reaching for say the 4th best edge IMHO like Karlaftis and then taking LINDERBAUM I think it will not help us like people think it would. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 6, 2022 21:47:37 GMT -5
I am leaning towards Ekwonu over Neal, and would take either tackle over Linderbaum. If we get 2 of the 3, I'll be ecstatic. If we get one of the three with either Thibs or Hutch, I'll be quite pleased as well. Mr. Fletch if we get either THIBS or Hutchinson and either of the Tackles that’s a great victory towards building a great team. If we are reaching for say the 4th best edge IMHO like Karlaftis and then taking LINDERBAUM I think it will not help us like people think it would. I'm not sold on Karlaftis either, and think one of the 4 mentioned above will be there for our first pick. Many mocks I've seen have Jacksonville taking Hutch. I suspect that Neal will be their pick at the top. Be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few months, and draft day especially. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 8, 2022 20:40:01 GMT -5
Mr. Fletch if we get either THIBS or Hutchinson and either of the Tackles that’s a great victory towards building a great team. If we are reaching for say the 4th best edge IMHO like Karlaftis and then taking LINDERBAUM I think it will not help us like people think it would. I'm not sold on Karlaftis either, and think one of the 4 mentioned above will be there for our first pick. Many mocks I've seen have Jacksonville taking Hutch. I suspect that Neal will be their pick at the top. Be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few months, and draft day especially. Long ways to go. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 8, 2022 20:51:55 GMT -5
1. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: EDGE AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN WOLVERINES 2. DETROIT LIONS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON DUCKS 3. HOUSTON TEXANS: CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU TIGERS 4. NEW YORK JETS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH 5. NEW YORK GIANTS: EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE BOILERMAKERS
Karlaftis, who was born in Athens, Greece, is the “Greek Freak” of college football. He is one of the most powerful defensive ends in the country, and he pairs that strength with arguably the best hand usage in the class and an explosive get-off that makes life tough on opposing offensive tackles.
The 6-foot-4, 275-pound Boilermaker showed a lot of promise as an underclassman and maximized his full potential as a true junior, as evidenced by his 90.6 pass-rush grade this season.6. CAROLINA PANTHERS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE 7. NEW YORK JETS (VIA SEATTLE): LB NAKOBE DEAN, GEORGIA BULLDOGS 8. NEW YORK GIANTS (VIA CHICAGO): C TYLER LINDERBAUM, IOWA HAWKEYESLinderbaum went from defensive tackle to the best offensive lineman in college football in just two years.
The 6-foot-3, 290-pound Iowa product played both sides of the ball in high school and was recruited to play on the interior defensive line, where he logged 18 snaps in his first college season. He then flipped to center for the 2019 campaign, where he started and recorded the fifth-best grade in the FBS at the position (81.7). Linderbaum then claimed the No. 1 spot in 2020 before making history in 2021, closing out his fourth and final year as a Hawkeye by tying for the highest single-season PFF grade from a Power Five center (94.4).9. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM: QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS 10. ATLANTA FALCONS: IOL IKEM EKWONU, N.C. STATE WOLFPACK See the rest hereIf this is our drat I’d be done …. I don’t think Karlaftis is the right player for this team and I’d take Ikem Ekwonu over Liderbaum. I’d even go #5. Cross #8. Ekwonu that’s your LG and your RT. I might be the only guy on this board but I don't want Linderbaum he's too small at 290. And I want Guards before I want Centers. If Neal or Ekwonu are there I'm jumping on them immediately. |
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