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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 2, 2022 9:24:39 GMT -5
5 players had RAS grades at 9.4 or above and 1 had an 8.32 which out of these six players they are in the top 30 to 50 at there positions over the last 20 or so years so they have roughly 1500 players behind them and only 30 to 50 ahead or even. 4 were good not elite and 1 Davidson was poor, they are all young averaging 21.6 years of age except again Davidson he is 24 or 25. He seems to bet on athletic traits and youth that still has room to grow into their bodies and minds.
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 9:37:43 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick.
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Post by vinnie on May 2, 2022 10:14:40 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick. That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 2, 2022 10:23:31 GMT -5
5 players had RAS grades at 9.4 or above and 1 had an 8.32 which out of these six players they are in the top 30 to 50 at there positions over the last 20 or so years so they have roughly 1500 players behind them and only 30 to 50 ahead or even. 4 were good not elite and 1 Davidson was poor, they are all young averaging 21.6 years of age except again Davidson he is 24 or 25. He seems to bet on athletic traits and youth that still has room to grow into their bodies and minds. Also high end production with his 1st 3 picks |
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 10:30:59 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick. That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. |
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Post by Rangers13 on May 2, 2022 10:43:52 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick. That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. lol, Always a party during the offseason and with a new regime |
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Post by Rangers13 on May 2, 2022 10:45:18 GMT -5
That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. So much for who voted for an A |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 10:49:41 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick. That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. My 1st thought when he responded.. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on May 2, 2022 10:53:12 GMT -5
Schoen has a worse midget fetish than I do...lol  That wide receiver room is looking kind slight.. except for Golladay  |
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Post by hadenough on May 2, 2022 10:55:10 GMT -5
You could def tell there were analytical things they liked about these guys. Let's see how it goes.
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Post by vinnie on May 2, 2022 12:39:43 GMT -5
That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. |
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Post by Sarcasman on May 2, 2022 13:05:48 GMT -5
That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. lol, not a lot of folks admitting that. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 2, 2022 13:13:36 GMT -5
5 players had RAS grades at 9.4 or above and 1 had an 8.32 which out of these six players they are in the top 30 to 50 at there positions over the last 20 or so years so they have roughly 1500 players behind them and only 30 to 50 ahead or even. 4 were good not elite and 1 Davidson was poor, they are all young averaging 21.6 years of age except again Davidson he is 24 or 25. He seems to bet on athletic traits and youth that still has room to grow into their bodies and minds. Also high end production with his 1st 3 picks Even the late rd guys McFadden and Belton / Beavers all were really productive players and over 9 RAS grades. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 2, 2022 13:16:07 GMT -5
That’s a shocker, you also defended Gettleman to the end. I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. Last years class has some time to prove it's self but it can be a winner if toney gets his head right. |
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 15:50:07 GMT -5
I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. You won't find any post where I said I didn't like Slater. As far as grading drafts the day after, last year's is as meaningless as this year's. |
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Post by GameTime on May 2, 2022 16:15:03 GMT -5
whatever his type is I hope he's right about players more than he wrong. That's a style that ultimately will work.
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Post by allnygin on May 2, 2022 16:20:29 GMT -5
to be fair last years draft still looks pretty good on paper. Neal, Azeez, Toney (if he stays healthy and committed) and robinson and even williams who will contribute in the secondary as later round picks ... that imo is still a b+ A draft on paper. That class still has 2 more years to cement itself.
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 16:24:33 GMT -5
to be fair last years draft still looks pretty good on paper. Neal, Azeez, Toney (if he stays healthy and committed) and some robinson and even williams who will contribute ... that imo is still a b+ A draft on paper. That class still has 2 more years to cement itself. You need at least 3 years to begin to judge a draft. We need to remember that rookies outside the first two rounds rarely contribute. If 3 rookies from your class get significant production/playing time, you’re extremely lucky. But even that doesn't certify a draft. |
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Post by Kruunch on May 2, 2022 16:32:38 GMT -5
That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. You won't find any post where I said I didn't like Slater. As far as grading drafts the day after, last year's is as meaningless as this year's. No, you said we didn’t need him. Which is just as dumb as saying you didn’t like him. I agree about grading drafts. They’re as meaningless as grading eye exams. We still don’t know what we had in last years draft, let alone this years. A lot of potential, so their is reason to be optimistic. |
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 16:47:18 GMT -5
You won't find any post where I said I didn't like Slater. As far as grading drafts the day after, last year's is as meaningless as this year's. No, you said we didn’t need him. Which is just as dumb as saying you didn’t like him. I agree about grading drafts. They’re as meaningless as grading eye exams. We still don’t know what we had in last years draft, let alone this years. A lot of potential, so their is reason to be optimistic. What I said was, that I preferred the trade. Still do. I said back then that I would not have complained if things worked out where we ended up taking Slater. I never thought it was happening because they were clearly set on the players they had. |
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Post by lexington11 on May 2, 2022 17:27:43 GMT -5
I had no problem with last year’s draft either, which received an A grade on this forum. That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. amazing observation without even seeing them play a down of football. They don’t need awards, just wins. |
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Post by vinnie on May 2, 2022 17:29:17 GMT -5
That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. amazing observation without even seeing them play a down of football. They don’t need awards, just wins. Good point, I forgot about all the wins they racked up. |
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Post by DandyDon on May 2, 2022 17:31:24 GMT -5
A few days after his first draft, we know his "type?"
I know everything in social media has to be instant reaction, but this is just silly. IMO.
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Post by Sarcasman on May 2, 2022 17:49:37 GMT -5
That’s not a surprise, you didn’t even like Slater. So far, with the exception of Azeez, last years draft is nowhere close to an A and unless Neal makes the Pro Bowl or Thibs gets rookie of the year then it will look even worse. You won't find any post where I said I didn't like Slater. As far as grading drafts the day after, last year's is as meaningless as this year's. I was just reading last year's Draft grading thread. It looks pretty much like this year's draft grading thread. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on May 2, 2022 17:56:13 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a single pick. Top 2 picks should be slam dunks. I'm hopeful for Wandale. Glad we went WR. I really like the TE as well. I'm wait and see on the guard because people praised Dylan Parhom so much. Overall very happy but I do not watch college. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on May 2, 2022 17:59:33 GMT -5
amazing observation without even seeing them play a down of football. They don’t need awards, just wins. Good point, I forgot about all the wins they racked up. The major complaint of last seasons draft is a blind man could see our line was terrible and we not only ignored it but we let it get weaker. While this season could have busts at least our staff tried to improve our biggest need (Oline) |
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Post by McCherry on May 2, 2022 18:10:07 GMT -5
Good point, I forgot about all the wins they racked up. The major complaint of last seasons draft is a blind man could see our line was terrible and we not only ignored it but we let it get weaker. While this season could have busts at least our staff tried to improve our biggest need (Oline) If we lose two starting linemen for the season by week 2, we’re going to have problems this year too. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on May 2, 2022 18:14:41 GMT -5
The major complaint of last seasons draft is a blind man could see our line was terrible and we not only ignored it but we let it get weaker. While this season could have busts at least our staff tried to improve our biggest need (Oline) If we lose two starting linemen for the season by week 2, we’re going to have problems this year too. Probably but at least we tried to upgrade it this season instead of ignoring it. Now we have 2 highly rated guys as our tackles. |
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Post by katcavage75 on May 3, 2022 15:55:57 GMT -5
5 players had RAS grades at 9.4 or above and 1 had an 8.32 which out of these six players they are in the top 30 to 50 at there positions over the last 20 or so years so they have roughly 1500 players behind them and only 30 to 50 ahead or even. 4 were good not elite and 1 Davidson was poor, they are all young averaging 21.6 years of age except again Davidson he is 24 or 25. He seems to bet on athletic traits and youth that still has room to grow into their bodies and minds. BigBlueDog42 - I had to look this up because I never heard or read about it. Is this analysis for comparison purposes? I'm kinda fuzzy on how this evaluates players. I found this: giantswire.usatoday.com/lists/2022-nfl-draft-ras-scores-new-york-giants-11-player-class/p.s. I'm very happy with this draft. Best scenario in Round 1 where BPA met need. We'll see which selections from rounds 4, 5, & 6 make the team. One draft doesn't fix everything, but the NYGs have certainly made a great first step in the right direction. Thanks. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2022 16:01:58 GMT -5
5 players had RAS grades at 9.4 or above and 1 had an 8.32 which out of these six players they are in the top 30 to 50 at there positions over the last 20 or so years so they have roughly 1500 players behind them and only 30 to 50 ahead or even. 4 were good not elite and 1 Davidson was poor, they are all young averaging 21.6 years of age except again Davidson he is 24 or 25. He seems to bet on athletic traits and youth that still has room to grow into their bodies and minds. BigBlueDog42 - I had to look this up because I never heard or read about it. Is this analysis for comparison purposes? I'm kinda fuzzy on how this evaluates players. I found this: giantswire.usatoday.com/lists/2022-nfl-draft-ras-scores-new-york-giants-11-player-class/p.s. I'm very happy with this draft. Best scenario in Round 1 where BPA met need. We'll see which selections from rounds 4, 5, & 6 make the team. One draft doesn't fix everything, but the NYGs have certainly made a great first step in the right direction. Thanks. This is a comparison to traits that are favorable to success in the NFL, like for instance Maybe Guards with good 10 yard shuttles might have a much higher chance to be comae a starting OL. just an example |
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