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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 30, 2022 19:40:44 GMT -5
Jalen Brunson. Sure it’s a lot of Money. However it’s actually 2nd tier PG money in today’s NBA and we haven’t had a PG worth a damn in over 20 years. I wonder what else will happen. I know in the snap of a finger it’s preferable to be a Knicks fan again. To me it always was, regardless of the continual state of the franchise.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 1, 2022 6:22:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this one. Didn't watch that much of the Mavs, so I'm just not that familiar with him. Sounds like he's a player on the rise, and the Knicks certainly know as much about him as is possible. I don't think this move alone turns the team into a contender, but there is a lot of time between now and the start of the season.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jul 1, 2022 12:50:37 GMT -5
Reupped with Mitchell Robinson 4 years/60 mil
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Post by piddy283 on Jul 1, 2022 18:52:05 GMT -5
I can't say I know a ton about NBA players, but despite the initial reaction by fans after the draft I like what the Knicks have done this off-season
It's been forever since we had a legit PG, and Brunson doesn't appear to have many weaknesses to his game. He was overshadowed by Doncic so his stats should take a bit of a jump playing with the Knicks. Beyond stats, having a solid PG will raise the overall floor of the team and will bring stability in crunch time.
Hartenstein and Mitchell are going to be fun to watch down low. Two legit 7-footers can be a problem on both ends of the court for opposing teams. Not that it ultimately matters, but I also like the fact Mitchell was a 2nd round pick for the Knicks and they resigned him. I think resigning your draft picks is a key to building a good nucleus.
We don't have the superstar player, but we have a solid nucleus with depth all around. 2023 playoffs, here we come!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 27, 2022 8:10:19 GMT -5
I can't say I know a ton about NBA players, but despite the initial reaction by fans after the draft I like what the Knicks have done this off-season It's been forever since we had a legit PG, and Brunson doesn't appear to have many weaknesses to his game. He was overshadowed by Doncic so his stats should take a bit of a jump playing with the Knicks. Beyond stats, having a solid PG will raise the overall floor of the team and will bring stability in crunch time. Hartenstein and Mitchell are going to be fun to watch down low. Two legit 7-footers can be a problem on both ends of the court for opposing teams. Not that it ultimately matters, but I also like the fact Mitchell was a 2nd round pick for the Knicks and they resigned him. I think resigning your draft picks is a key to building a good nucleus. We don't have the superstar player, but we have a solid nucleus with depth all around. 2023 playoffs, here we come! RJ needs to take that next step. He flashes it, but hasn't been consistent enough. He went from 14 to 17 to 20 PTs per game last year. He needs to score 25 a game. Have to remember, he just turned 22 years old. He will never be a top 5 superstar, but I think he can be a star in the league.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jul 27, 2022 11:08:37 GMT -5
I can't say I know a ton about NBA players, but despite the initial reaction by fans after the draft I like what the Knicks have done this off-season It's been forever since we had a legit PG, and Brunson doesn't appear to have many weaknesses to his game. He was overshadowed by Doncic so his stats should take a bit of a jump playing with the Knicks. Beyond stats, having a solid PG will raise the overall floor of the team and will bring stability in crunch time. Hartenstein and Mitchell are going to be fun to watch down low. Two legit 7-footers can be a problem on both ends of the court for opposing teams. Not that it ultimately matters, but I also like the fact Mitchell was a 2nd round pick for the Knicks and they resigned him. I think resigning your draft picks is a key to building a good nucleus. We don't have the superstar player, but we have a solid nucleus with depth all around. 2023 playoffs, here we come! RJ needs to take that next step. He flashes it, but hasn't been consistent enough. He went from 14 to 17 to 20 PTs per game last year. He needs to score 25 a game. Have to remember, he just turned 22 years old. He will never be a top 5 superstar, but I think he can be a star in the league. I am assuming we will end up with Donovan Mitchell. It was reported that we won’t include Barrett. To me that slides him to SF. I think he would be tremendous in that position. I still don’t love Mitchell at the cost of key young players and 5 or so first round picks. He’s undersized as is Brunson, defensively we will get abused.
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Post by piddy283 on Jul 27, 2022 11:37:42 GMT -5
RJ needs to take that next step. He flashes it, but hasn't been consistent enough. He went from 14 to 17 to 20 PTs per game last year. He needs to score 25 a game. Have to remember, he just turned 22 years old. He will never be a top 5 superstar, but I think he can be a star in the league. I am assuming we will end up with Donovan Mitchell. It was reported that we won’t include Barrett. To me that slides him to SF. I think he would be tremendous in that position. I still don’t love Mitchell at the cost of key young players and 5 or so first round picks. He’s undersized as is Brunson, defensively we will get abused. Yea, I’m turned off by the Mitchell trade due to the apparent asking price. I’d rather us stay the course and keep building around these young players.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jul 27, 2022 19:50:31 GMT -5
I am assuming we will end up with Donovan Mitchell. It was reported that we won’t include Barrett. To me that slides him to SF. I think he would be tremendous in that position. I still don’t love Mitchell at the cost of key young players and 5 or so first round picks. He’s undersized as is Brunson, defensively we will get abused. Yea, I’m turned off by the Mitchell trade due to the apparent asking price. I’d rather us stay the course and keep building around these young players. I agree, but that said I expect Donovan Mitchell to be a Knicks, a bunch of young Knicks to be Jazz and Randle to end up elsewhere. Just my best guess.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 1, 2022 14:45:52 GMT -5
So Cavs get Donovan Mitchell. Did Danny Ainge just want to snub the Knicks? All along they wouldn’t give more than 3 unprotected firsts. Now he trades him to the Cavs in a deal involving 3 unprotected firsts. F*** Danny Ainge and F*** the Celtics still.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 1, 2022 15:58:14 GMT -5
So Cavs get Donovan Mitchell. Did Danny Ainge just want to snub the Knicks? All along they wouldn’t give more than 3 unprotected firsts. Now he trades him to the Cavs in a deal involving 3 unprotected firsts. F*** Danny Ainge and F*** the Celtics still. During his playing days, he was one of my 2 or 3 most disliked players. Nothing but a whiner...I'll 2nd your F Ainge and F the Celtics yesterday, today, and tomorrow!!
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Post by SG88 on Sept 1, 2022 20:23:56 GMT -5
So Cavs get Donovan Mitchell. Did Danny Ainge just want to snub the Knicks? All along they wouldn’t give more than 3 unprotected firsts. Now he trades him to the Cavs in a deal involving 3 unprotected firsts. F*** Danny Ainge and F*** the Celtics still. During his playing days, he was one of my 2 or 3 most disliked players. Nothing but a whiner...I'll 2nd your F Ainge and F the Celtics yesterday, today, and tomorrow!! I actually just read somewhere that the Knicks are the ones that backed out last second.
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 2, 2022 6:42:28 GMT -5
Glad we didn’t make this happen. Folks might say “typical Knicks” for missing out on a big named player, but to me it would’ve been a “typical Knicks” move overpaying for a player who won’t put them over the top.
I don’t keep up with the NBA like y’all probably do, but Mitchell seems like another Brunson-type to me. Smaller, not known for defense, solid offensively. Why would we want to give up the promising young players we already have on our roster, and then give up the future draft picks we could use to backfill those players, for that?
As we stand today, I think we go as far without Mitchell as we would’ve with him, and there’s no question we’re in better shape to continue building in the future. For the first time in decades, I feel like the Knicks actually know what they’re doing.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 2, 2022 15:15:23 GMT -5
During his playing days, he was one of my 2 or 3 most disliked players. Nothing but a whiner...I'll 2nd your F Ainge and F the Celtics yesterday, today, and tomorrow!! I actually just read somewhere that the Knicks are the ones that backed out last second. my feelings for Ainge don't hinge on that, lol (I know you know this...)
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Post by SG88 on Sept 2, 2022 15:36:27 GMT -5
I actually just read somewhere that the Knicks are the ones that backed out last second. my feelings for Ainge don't hinge on that, lol (I know you know this...) I do think that he is a 🤡. Lol
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 2, 2022 16:17:33 GMT -5
Glad we didn’t make this happen. Folks might say “typical Knicks” for missing out on a big named player, but to me it would’ve been a “typical Knicks” move overpaying for a player who won’t put them over the top. I don’t keep up with the NBA like y’all probably do, but Mitchell seems like another Brunson-type to me. Smaller, not known for defense, solid offensively. Why would we want to give up the promising young players we already have on our roster, and then give up the future draft picks we could use to backfill those players, for that? As we stand today, I think we go as far without Mitchell as we would’ve with him, and there’s no question we’re in better shape to continue building in the future. For the first time in decades, I feel like the Knicks actually know what they’re doing. Our backcourt would have been a defensive albatross and our coach is defensive first. It didn’t necessarily make tons of sense.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 2, 2022 20:15:13 GMT -5
Glad we didn’t make this happen. Folks might say “typical Knicks” for missing out on a big named player, but to me it would’ve been a “typical Knicks” move overpaying for a player who won’t put them over the top. I don’t keep up with the NBA like y’all probably do, but Mitchell seems like another Brunson-type to me. Smaller, not known for defense, solid offensively. Why would we want to give up the promising young players we already have on our roster, and then give up the future draft picks we could use to backfill those players, for that? As we stand today, I think we go as far without Mitchell as we would’ve with him, and there’s no question we’re in better shape to continue building in the future. For the first time in decades, I feel like the Knicks actually know what they’re doing. Our backcourt would have been a defensive albatross and our coach is defensive first. It didn’t necessarily make tons of sense. I actually disagree. Mitchell would have been a great fit and the Knicks would have been a 5th seed at worst. Thibs is the one that is a bad fit and draft picks are pretty useless in the NBA outside of the lottery. Anyways, Cleveland is going to be really good.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 3, 2022 15:07:07 GMT -5
Our backcourt would have been a defensive albatross and our coach is defensive first. It didn’t necessarily make tons of sense. I actually disagree. Mitchell would have been a great fit and the Knicks would have been a 5th seed at worst. Thibs is the one that is a bad fit and draft picks are pretty useless in the NBA outside of the lottery. Anyways, Cleveland is going to be really good. Brunson and Mitchell are both talented, Mitchell more so than Brunson. Both are undersized minus defenders. Regardless of your thoughts on Thibs it wouldn’t have been a great pairing. Better to wait till the next disgruntled superstar wants out IMO. That’s what the Knicks hedged their bets on. You may not watch much of them, but they also didn’t want to part with Grimes. I agreed strongly with that.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 19, 2022 19:41:11 GMT -5
I’m aware the Grizzlies are good, but that was a shit half of basketball. Poor offense, missing open chances, garbage defense. Is this what your boys have Thibs?
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 19, 2022 21:28:25 GMT -5
Made it respectable and still lost. Sounds right.
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Post by Miked1958 on Oct 20, 2022 2:30:03 GMT -5
Well here we go again.. down 19 in 3rd come bk to take a brief lead with 3:36 left
Then back to 2&4 down before tying it it with a 3 pointer by reddish with 3seconda left to send it to OT
Was a bad start when abt a min+ into OT it appeared the knicks were going to strike 1st when a steal was made and Brunson appeared to get hacked in the head on the layup attempt then was bodied to the floor. No call and the supposed block started a fast break the other way
We can say all the right things that it was on the road against the team with 2nd best record and were able to comebk and almost win but.......
We been here before last 4/5 years with this same type crap. Never can seem to get over the hump
If Barrett was awful and hit on 5-18 shots the knicks win. But he was terrible and only made 3 of 18
Oh well....
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 20, 2022 7:05:34 GMT -5
Well here we go again.. down 19 in 3rd come bk to take a brief lead with 3:36 left Then back to 2&4 down before tying it it with a 3 pointer by reddish with 3seconda left to send it to OT Was a bad start when abt a min+ into OT it appeared the knicks were going to strike 1st when a steal was made and Brunson appeared to get hacked in the head on the layup attempt then was bodied to the floor. No call and the supposed block started a fast break the other way We can say all the right things that it was on the road against the team with 2nd best record and were able to comebk and almost win but....... We been here before last 4/5 years with this same type crap. Never can seem to get over the hump If Barrett was awful and hit on 5-18 shots the knicks win. But he was terrible and only made 3 of 18 Oh well.... On the upside Brunson was quite good, Randle looked good and where the hell did Cam Reddish come from? I had heard his talent upside, but never really saw it play out in a game. Home Opener against Detroit tomorrow night hopefully a better outcome.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 22, 2022 8:50:08 GMT -5
That was very good. Terrible play by Detroit as well though.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 26, 2022 22:41:28 GMT -5
3-1. Brunson is at least as good as advertised, maybe better. A true quality PG, when is the last time we even had one? Also allowed me to watch more of that than the Rangers game.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 2, 2022 20:42:14 GMT -5
Hey remember the time the Knicks were up 23 in the first half and by the time there was 5 minutes left they were down 18. So if the question is same old disappointment? The answer is yes.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 4, 2022 19:54:40 GMT -5
Can’t figure out if we should fire Thibs or if we just fully suck. Probably both.
Edit: Unbelievably they came back and won. Exciting unless you consider they had no business losing to a team missing its 2 best players.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 14, 2022 22:59:37 GMT -5
My best Harry Doyle:
In case you haven’t noticed, and judging by the amount of posts you haven’t, the Knicks are winners of 5 in a row and threatening to look like a competent basketball team!🤣
Seriously though, they are sucking me back in. Thibs has booted Rose, Fornier and Reddish from the rotation in exchange for young guys who actually play defense. Shockingly they are looking like the team from 2 years ago. And despite his defensive deficiencies Brunson is the best PG you have seen wear a Knicks uniform in eons. Nice work boys.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 15, 2022 19:56:44 GMT -5
My best Harry Doyle: In case you haven’t noticed, and judging by the amount of posts you haven’t, the Knicks are winners of 5 in a row and threatening to look like a competent basketball team!🤣 Seriously though, they are sucking me back in. Thibs has booted Rose, Fornier and Reddish from the rotation in exchange for young guys who actually play defense. Shockingly they are looking like the team from 2 years ago. And despite his defensive deficiencies Brunson is the best PG you have seen wear a Knicks uniform in eons. Nice work boys. yeah, Thib's system is shit for guys that don't play D. That drives the whole boat.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jan 7, 2023 9:15:35 GMT -5
Jalen and Julius have been an amazing duo. Brunson at his contract, as it turns out, was robbery. Pretty awesome.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jan 12, 2023 10:48:39 GMT -5
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 13, 2023 21:33:46 GMT -5
4 games in a row with 30+ pts. He's been playing lights out recently. Nice win in DC tonight.
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