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Post by cruzsoldier on Sept 12, 2022 20:44:47 GMT -5
I’m curious to know because the left side of the line created some holes just wanted to see most of the grades.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 12, 2022 20:50:19 GMT -5
Ask gunner. He’s grading out the bass fishing championship.
I’ll say this. Andrew Thomas played fantastic. He has all pro talent..
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Post by wtfjjk on Sept 12, 2022 21:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by allnygin on Sept 12, 2022 21:32:09 GMT -5
I seriously have no idea how PFF comes up with some of these numbers. Evan ranked pretty low despite giving up one total pressure? I kept an eye on him he did not do as bad as I was expecting his first game as a rookie.
ezedu got blown up a few times, but this is nice
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 12, 2022 21:36:21 GMT -5
I don't have a PFF account so I haven't verified these scores.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 12, 2022 21:38:57 GMT -5
Scores were low but all I know is they opened up lanes in the running game that I didn't see last year.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2022 21:40:23 GMT -5
I seriously have no idea how PFF comes up with some of these numbers. Evan ranked pretty low despite giving up one total pressure? I kept an eye on him he did not do as bad as I was expecting his first game as a rookie. ezedu got blown up a few times, but this is nice Common Core |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 12, 2022 21:53:33 GMT -5
I don't have a PFF account so I haven't verified these scores.
Looks about right. Then again I trust pussies who never played football to grade it for me.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 21:56:38 GMT -5
Ask gunner. He’s grading out the bass fishing championship. I’ll say this. Andrew Thomas played fantastic. He has all pro talent.. He had great grades to match the rest were average to below average. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 21:58:29 GMT -5
I don't have a PFF account so I haven't verified these scores.
Looks about right. Then again I trust pussies who never played football to grade it for me.
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 21:59:54 GMT -5
Ezuedu missed a crucial block that caused a turnover but also had a couple pancakes and had a much better 2nd half.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 22:01:32 GMT -5
I seriously have no idea how PFF comes up with some of these numbers. Evan ranked pretty low despite giving up one total pressure? I kept an eye on him he did not do as bad as I was expecting his first game as a rookie. ezedu got blown up a few times, but this is nice Common Core He had a couple of those pancakes he berries them with authority. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 22:03:10 GMT -5
They block like they did yesterday and improve weekly Barkley and Jones will have big years.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2022 22:06:02 GMT -5
I seriously have no idea how PFF comes up with some of these numbers. Evan ranked pretty low despite giving up one total pressure? I kept an eye on him he did not do as bad as I was expecting his first game as a rookie. ezedu got blown up a few times, but this is nice I will take 2 rookies in on the OL that paved the way for 238 rushing yards against the #2 rush defense in 2021 all day long with Thomas grading out close to elite also. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 12, 2022 23:02:31 GMT -5
Looks about right. Then again I trust pussies who never played football to grade it for me.
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 They have proven to be nothing but nonsense. But never forget, if you have to pay for something then it must have value. |
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Post by drew on Sept 12, 2022 23:44:40 GMT -5
Looks about right. Then again I trust pussies who never played football to grade it for me.
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 He whiffed on like 4 or 5 blocks |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 13, 2022 5:24:37 GMT -5
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 He whiffed on like 4 or 5 blocks I haven't rewatched it yet thanks. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 13, 2022 5:29:35 GMT -5
the one thing it seems with PFF is that a player doesnt need too many bad plays to really effect their grade.
Other than that I really dont know much about it at all.
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Post by cdngfan on Sept 13, 2022 5:33:16 GMT -5
It shows how traumatized some of us are, and it’s just one game (still an extension from what we saw in preseason), but it’s hard to believe that we have a line that can run block.
I still flinch thinking of how much contact there was behind the LOS over the last 5 years.
Pass pro needs to improve but we can manage if we can consistently run the ball.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 13, 2022 5:35:09 GMT -5
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 They have proven to be nothing but nonsense. But never forget, if you have to pay for something then it must have value. I think the grade should be did they dominate in the run, did the QB have 2 TDs 3TDs 4TDs how many times was he sacked how many stops behind the LOS. What gets me with these guys 2 guys have Identical stats right down to a bad turnover as a QB, but one grades poorly facing heavy pressure the other grades ok facing less pressure. Analytics has a place in the game a big one but first you gotta be good at collecting what matters, then they have to be even better at deciphering what's important and what doesn't matter and translating that to the coaches in football terms. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 13, 2022 5:42:06 GMT -5
It shows how traumatized some of us are, and it’s just one game (still an extension from what we saw in preseason), but it’s hard to believe that we have a line that can run block. I still flinch thinking of how much contact there was behind the LOS over the last 5 years. Pass pro needs to improve but we can manage if we can consistently run the ball. Sickening to think we had a weapon sitting back there that could change a game at anytime and they couldn't even move the needle, in the end got him beat up. Just like Jones also, he might not be the guy but you can't develop aQB facing pressure like he did the other day game in and game out for 3 years. I believe this OL is on the right track and the passpro willl come along as the year goes on. your post is 100% on he money. |
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Post by cdngfan on Sept 13, 2022 5:59:24 GMT -5
It shows how traumatized some of us are, and it’s just one game (still an extension from what we saw in preseason), but it’s hard to believe that we have a line that can run block. I still flinch thinking of how much contact there was behind the LOS over the last 5 years. Pass pro needs to improve but we can manage if we can consistently run the ball. Sickening to think we had a weapon sitting back there that could change a game at anytime and they couldn't even move the needle, in the end got him beat up. Just like Jones also, he might not be the guy but you can't develop aQB facing pressure like he did the other day game in and game out for 3 years. I believe this OL is on the right track and the passpro willl come along as the year goes on. your post is 100% on he money. Very well said. I saw a few fans write that Jones was antsy in the pocket and has to learn to let passing plays develop. K. What Giants team have you been watching the last 4 years? How that kid isn’t walking around with multiple flinches/ticks is beyond me. I think the o line will absolutely improve its pass pro by the end of the year, (as long as it can stay healthy), but Jones might be permanently wrecked regardless. Which is a shame. In the end, this o line looks and feels like it will finally be competent, and while we still have 16 games to go I’m already looking forward to this FO adding more depth and FAs to make injuries less catastrophic for this unit. |
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Post by hadenough on Sept 13, 2022 6:35:15 GMT -5
Ugh…those are low. Those ratings may not be perfect, but those are low grades.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 13, 2022 6:40:45 GMT -5
Sickening to think we had a weapon sitting back there that could change a game at anytime and they couldn't even move the needle, in the end got him beat up. Just like Jones also, he might not be the guy but you can't develop aQB facing pressure like he did the other day game in and game out for 3 years. I believe this OL is on the right track and the passpro willl come along as the year goes on. your post is 100% on he money. Very well said. I saw a few fans write that Jones was antsy in the pocket and has to learn to let passing plays develop. K. What Giants team have you been watching the last 4 years? How that kid isn’t walking around with multiple flinches/ticks is beyond me. I think the o line will absolutely improve its pass pro by the end of the year, (as long as it can stay healthy), but Jones might be permanently wrecked regardless. Which is a shame. In the end, this o line looks and feels like it will finally be competent, and while we still have 16 games to go I’m already looking forward to this FO adding more depth and FAs to make injuries less catastrophic for this unit. Jones with the Giants situation that he was stuck in was in a no win if he stays in there a delivers he's holding it to long if he hurries to get it out he is rushing it being he check down king, his circumstance is not the same as most of the other 31 QBs. Agree don't know if he can recover. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 13, 2022 8:25:13 GMT -5
The Giants offensive line was terrific on running plays, but not on passing plays as both Ezeudu and Bredeson were horrendous playing the left guard position.
Hamilton should have played much more than he did as he performed so well in the Giants pre-season games.
Also, I suspect , free agent Peterson Is the Giants best guard.
The Giants need an effective passing game so I do hope Giants HC Daboll does straightens out the LG position prior to the Carolina game.
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Post by presumablygunner on Sept 13, 2022 8:38:21 GMT -5
I don't have a PFF account so I haven't verified these scores. Jones got pressured on 69% of his passes so this makes sense |
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Post by straightrazorman on Sept 13, 2022 9:12:50 GMT -5
I know that this thread is mostly about O-Line grades, but one thing really jumped out at me as I was going down their list and that was that the X-Man graded out at 86.0.
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Post by jb456 on Sept 13, 2022 10:53:51 GMT -5
Looks about right. Then again I trust pussies who never played football to grade it for me.
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 Besides that, it looks pretty accurate. I think Jones was pressured on about 69% of his drop backs and I don't even think that includes the 5 sacks that he took. The line looked pretty terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 10:55:55 GMT -5
I don't get Neal let up 1 or 2 pressures missed s few blocks but had some good ones in the run game how does he get a 40 Besides that, it looks pretty accurate. I think Jones was pressured on about 69% of his drop backs and I don't even think that includes the 5 sacks that he took. The line looked pretty terrible. If those sacks aren't counted for this stat then it's a stupid one.. |
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Post by jb456 on Sept 13, 2022 10:59:45 GMT -5
Besides that, it looks pretty accurate. I think Jones was pressured on about 69% of his drop backs and I don't even think that includes the 5 sacks that he took. The line looked pretty terrible. If those sacks aren't counted for this stat then it's a stupid one.. MY bad RT, you are correct. QB pressures include sacks. I just looked it up. |
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