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Post by Analyst on Apr 1, 2023 7:51:48 GMT -5
Just found out that Jaxson Smith-Njigba is the younger brother of an ex Yankees prospect Canaan Smith. He was in the Yankees farm system for a few years then got traded to Pittsburgh. He now goes by Canaan Smith-Njigba.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 22, 2023 21:47:06 GMT -5
BIG Mingo fan. Big, strong, and athletic WR from Ole Miss. Could be an AJ Brown/Dez-lite type of player.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 23, 2023 7:30:02 GMT -5
BIG Mingo fan. Big, strong, and athletic WR from Ole Miss. Could be an AJ Brown/Dez-lite type of player. He just doesn't have that wow factor for me. He seems like a bargain version of Xavier Hutchinson or AT Perry |
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Post by Analyst on Apr 23, 2023 11:53:01 GMT -5
Ive been on the Flowers train for a while, prior to him being projected late 1st round. He was still a 2nd 3rd round projection back then.
Ive been looking not only at his highlights, but also his full game tapes.
I love his elusiveness and "Toney"-ish jitterbug type moves in the open field, but I really am starting to wonder if he will make it because he really isnt strong like Toney. He appears to get jammed rather easily. DBs push him back, and for being a WR that needs separation quickly on those slants, a physical slot CB could really bring him down to earth.
My guess is he can be a gadget type, behind the LOS, running around, touching the ball in the backfield quite a bit, but Im not sure that is something we can afford to take at 25. He doesn't have the game breaking speed, just quickness and elusiveness. Really fun to watch on tape for his highlights, and could do damage with his talent, but I think he is more of a complimentary piece. Not a Stefon Digggs or even a healthy Kadarius Toney.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by TEM on Apr 23, 2023 18:03:53 GMT -5
Ive been on the Flowers train for a while, prior to him being projected late 1st round. He was still a 2nd 3rd round projection back then. Ive been looking not only at his highlights, but also his full game tapes. I love his elusiveness and "Toney"-ish jitterbug type moves in the open field, but I really am starting to wonder if he will make it because he really isnt strong like Toney. He appears to get jammed rather easily. DBs push him back, and for being a WR that needs separation quickly on those slants, a physical slot CB could really bring him down to earth. My guess is he can be a gadget type, behind the LOS, running around, touching the ball in the backfield quite a bit, but Im not sure that is something we can afford to take at 25. He doesn't have the game breaking speed, just quickness and elusiveness. Really fun to watch on tape for his highlights, and could do damage with his talent, but I think he is more of a complimentary piece. Not a Stefon Digggs or even a healthy Kadarius Toney. Just my 2 cents. I was on the Flowers train in 15. My brother is still bringing it up. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 25, 2023 9:49:26 GMT -5
BIG Mingo fan. Big, strong, and athletic WR from Ole Miss. Could be an AJ Brown/Dez-lite type of player. he is one of my guys I rather trade down to the top of RD2 or to the very bottom of RD1 collect an extra 3rd and draft Mingo if they miss he circle around and draft Jayden Reed think he is gonna be a good one and on a late round sleeper Charlie Jones dude has caught contested balls against some of the best and his 4.43 speed says he will be fine he is gonna be a steal. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 25, 2023 10:44:43 GMT -5
Ive been on the Flowers train for a while, prior to him being projected late 1st round. He was still a 2nd 3rd round projection back then. Ive been looking not only at his highlights, but also his full game tapes. I love his elusiveness and "Toney"-ish jitterbug type moves in the open field, but I really am starting to wonder if he will make it because he really isnt strong like Toney. He appears to get jammed rather easily. DBs push him back, and for being a WR that needs separation quickly on those slants, a physical slot CB could really bring him down to earth. My guess is he can be a gadget type, behind the LOS, running around, touching the ball in the backfield quite a bit, but Im not sure that is something we can afford to take at 25. He doesn't have the game breaking speed, just quickness and elusiveness. Really fun to watch on tape for his highlights, and could do damage with his talent, but I think he is more of a complimentary piece. Not a Stefon Digggs or even a healthy Kadarius Toney. Just my 2 cents. I think Flowers will need motion use stacks and such for easier releases he has some of Toney's traits but not all. I agree they are 2 different players when Toney is healthy he is a violent runner after catch along with the change of direction and explosiveness he is 0 to 60 in a blink of the eye. Problem for him is health his talent is tantalizing even with the Chiefs in a half season I think he had 17 catch 1TD health and comprehension also might be an issue for Toney one of these seasons he will break out. When I look at the top of this WR class I don't see much separation from the top tier to guys like Mingo Perry or Reed maybe it's me but they all have wharts why spend a first on that when there are cleaner CBs which we need and also Edge players. |
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Post by Analyst on Apr 25, 2023 10:51:10 GMT -5
Ive been on the Flowers train for a while, prior to him being projected late 1st round. He was still a 2nd 3rd round projection back then. Ive been looking not only at his highlights, but also his full game tapes. I love his elusiveness and "Toney"-ish jitterbug type moves in the open field, but I really am starting to wonder if he will make it because he really isnt strong like Toney. He appears to get jammed rather easily. DBs push him back, and for being a WR that needs separation quickly on those slants, a physical slot CB could really bring him down to earth. My guess is he can be a gadget type, behind the LOS, running around, touching the ball in the backfield quite a bit, but Im not sure that is something we can afford to take at 25. He doesn't have the game breaking speed, just quickness and elusiveness. Really fun to watch on tape for his highlights, and could do damage with his talent, but I think he is more of a complimentary piece. Not a Stefon Digggs or even a healthy Kadarius Toney. Just my 2 cents. I think Flowers will need motion use stacks and such for easier releases he has some of Toney's traits but not all. I agree they are 2 different players when Toney is healthy he is a violent runner after catch along with the change of direction and explosiveness he is 0 to 60 in a blink of the eye. Problem for him is health his talent is tantalizing even with the Chiefs in a half season I think he had 17 catch 1TD health and comprehension also might be an issue for Toney one of these seasons he will break out. When I look at the top of this WR class I don't see much separation from the top tier to guys like Mingo Perry or Reed maybe it's me but they all have wharts why spend a first on that when there are cleaner CBs which we need and also Edge players. I think Addison and Smith-Njigba are the top 2 guys. After that, its tough. I like Hyatt a lot too as the 3rd WR. His speed is insane. Of course, there will be others that emerge on the right teams. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 25, 2023 11:02:21 GMT -5
I think Flowers will need motion use stacks and such for easier releases he has some of Toney's traits but not all. I agree they are 2 different players when Toney is healthy he is a violent runner after catch along with the change of direction and explosiveness he is 0 to 60 in a blink of the eye. Problem for him is health his talent is tantalizing even with the Chiefs in a half season I think he had 17 catch 1TD health and comprehension also might be an issue for Toney one of these seasons he will break out. When I look at the top of this WR class I don't see much separation from the top tier to guys like Mingo Perry or Reed maybe it's me but they all have wharts why spend a first on that when there are cleaner CBs which we need and also Edge players. I think Addison and Smith-Njigba are the top 2 guys. After that, its tough. I like Hyatt a lot too as the 3rd WR. His speed is insane. Of course, there will be others that emerge on the right teams. Hyatt is interesting a guy I didn't think about that I do like him. For me as a fan I'm really concerned with CB situation after this year they don't have a proven one or two signed for 2024 and beyond. I think because Wink likes these big guys that can press they are looking to get guys that he likes in here as the starters. being jackson is up after this year they don't have a proven #2. Maybe draft a guy they think can take jacksons spot next year if the value is right hit it again in the 3rd or 4th let them all battle for play time. If this was a loaded WR class I might be on board but all but 2 or 3 more 2nd round graded then 1st. |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 25, 2023 16:25:32 GMT -5
If there's a run on WRs in the 1st and we want to throw an audible take Tippman in the 1st, here's a guy I'd love to take in the 2nd... Could he be our Jaylen Waddle??
Scott is an explosive athlete with elite speed that enables him to win vertically by pulling away from defenders. He maximizes his ability to get open down the field with good route pace and smooth cuts to force false steps from defenders; this enables him to get behind the defense. Scott’s ability to threaten vertically opens up opportunities for him in the short-to-intermediate areas of the field because opponents have so much respect for his speed. He has proven himself as an outside receiver with very few opportunities to execute from the slot. Scott makes excellent ball adjustments to make the most of his ability down the field. Despite not being the biggest receiver, I’m impressed with Scott’s ability to elevate for the football and extend his catch radius while even claiming his share of wins when challenged with contested catch points. Scott’s speed, twitch, and elusiveness not only show up as a route-runner but makes him dynamic with the ball in his hands for post-catch production. Scott has the ability to make defenders miss in space and break pursuit angles with his explosiveness.
When it comes to concerns, Scott has a lean build and won’t be known for winning with play strength. While he showcases good ball skills, he does fall victim to a fair amount of drops, often due to modest grip strength when attempting to squeeze and secure the ball. Surprisingly, Scott gained little experience at Cincinnati working from the slot, which figures to be more on his plate at the next level so gaining comfort there is something to monitor.
Scott has the makings of an outstanding No. 2 receiver in the NFL where his ability to win at all levels of the field, create after the catch, and impact the spacing of the offense with his vertical ability are major assets for his NFL offense.
Top Reasons to Buy In:
Explosiveness
Separation skills
Ball adjustments
Top Reasons For Concern:
Lean frame
Drops
Play strength
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 25, 2023 16:29:18 GMT -5
I think Addison and Smith-Njigba are the top 2 guys. After that, its tough. I like Hyatt a lot too as the 3rd WR. His speed is insane. Of course, there will be others that emerge on the right teams. Hyatt is interesting a guy I didn't think about that I do like him. For me as a fan I'm really concerned with CB situation after this year they don't have a proven one or two signed for 2024 and beyond. I think because Wink likes these big guys that can press they are looking to get guys that he likes in here as the starters. being jackson is up after this year they don't have a proven #2. Maybe draft a guy they think can take jacksons spot next year if the value is right hit it again in the 3rd or 4th let them all battle for play time. If this was a loaded WR class I might be on board but all but 2 or 3 more 2nd round graded then 1st. I REALLY want to like Hyatt, but for some reason I can't get over the fact that he really only 1 season of solid production. He seems like a better Slayton with better hands. Not much of a route runner and most of their production comes on go routes. Hyatt DOES have much better hands though |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 25, 2023 20:23:27 GMT -5
Hyatt is interesting a guy I didn't think about that I do like him. For me as a fan I'm really concerned with CB situation after this year they don't have a proven one or two signed for 2024 and beyond. I think because Wink likes these big guys that can press they are looking to get guys that he likes in here as the starters. being jackson is up after this year they don't have a proven #2. Maybe draft a guy they think can take jacksons spot next year if the value is right hit it again in the 3rd or 4th let them all battle for play time. If this was a loaded WR class I might be on board but all but 2 or 3 more 2nd round graded then 1st. I REALLY want to like Hyatt, but for some reason I can't get over the fact that he really only 1 season of solid production. He seems like a better Slayton with better hands. Not much of a route runner and most of their production comes on go routes. Hyatt DOES have much better hands though Thing is then you have the old school WR 2 or 3 years of growing him. In todays NFL guys taken high need to be contributors I hope they take a CB I think they will get better value there than at WR or OL they can get either OL or WR in RD2 and really from what I'm reading starting Center can be had as deep as the 3rd or 4th rd. |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2023 23:45:11 GMT -5
I'm hearing the Giants are really high on Flowers and Addison. It's possible one is still there.
I would also take a shot at Mingo as a day 3 pick.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 26, 2023 16:51:43 GMT -5
I'm hearing the Giants are really high on Flowers and Addison. It's possible one is still there. I would also take a shot at Mingo as a day 3 pick. I like the idea of double dipping with WRs, we could always use more versatile guys. If we go Flowers/Addison, we could go Xavier Hutchinson in the 3rd or so, or someone like Elijah Higgins in the 5th or 6th |
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Post by fifthavephil on Apr 26, 2023 16:57:59 GMT -5
I'm hearing the Giants are really high on Flowers and Addison. It's possible one is still there. I would also take a shot at Mingo as a day 3 pick. I like the idea of double dipping with WRs, we could always use more versatile guys. If we go Flowers/Addison, we could go Xavier Hutchinson in the 3rd or so, or someone like Elijah Higgins in the 5th or 6th Higgins, has over 11inch hands. When he catches passes, it is like the sound of a catcher catching a fastball. |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 26, 2023 17:03:16 GMT -5
I like the idea of double dipping with WRs, we could always use more versatile guys. If we go Flowers/Addison, we could go Xavier Hutchinson in the 3rd or so, or someone like Elijah Higgins in the 5th or 6th Higgins, has over 11inch hands. When he catches passes, it is like the sound of a catcher catching a fastball. I've heard the possibility of him transitioning to TE, which would also work for us. Go with the separation master, quick and agile speedster in the 1st and the big bodied, sure handed possession, red zone threat later on |
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 26, 2023 19:03:30 GMT -5
I'm hearing the Giants are really high on Flowers and Addison. It's possible one is still there. I would also take a shot at Mingo as a day 3 pick. Would be stunned if Mingo lasted until day 3. |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 26, 2023 20:03:21 GMT -5
I'm hearing the Giants are really high on Flowers and Addison. It's possible one is still there. I would also take a shot at Mingo as a day 3 pick. Would be stunned if Mingo lasted until day 3. Agreed, I was thinking round 3. For some reason I thought that was day 3. |
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 26, 2023 20:22:16 GMT -5
Would be stunned if Mingo lasted until day 3. Agreed, I was thinking round 3. For some reason I thought that was day 3. Stranger things have happened though 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Analyst on Apr 26, 2023 20:52:16 GMT -5
One thing is for sure, there is going to be a ton of competition for the WRs in 2023.
Slayton
Shepard
Robinson
Johnson
Hodgins
Sills
Jeff Smith
Crowder
Campbell
Plus who ever we draft.
Still don't see a #1 but a ton of #2s ans 3s
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 4, 2023 12:25:50 GMT -5
How in the world did Nacua drop to the 5th round? As a rookie he's already made Cooper Kupp expendable
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Post by Analyst on Oct 25, 2023 18:30:41 GMT -5
Ill tell you who I want in 2024, Marvin Harrison Jr. STUD. His dad taught him right. Yes please |
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Post by SG88 on Oct 25, 2023 19:37:47 GMT -5
Off the top of my head: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State Jordan Addison, WR, USC Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College Literally all 3 of these guys will have multiple Pro Bowls in their futures. Great call |
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Post by SG88 on Oct 25, 2023 19:40:23 GMT -5
How in the world did Nacua drop to the 5th round? As a rookie he's already made Cooper Kupp expendable I wouldn't say that Puka has made him expendable, but this guy is beast. Wish that we had someone like that on this team. |
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Post by Analyst on Oct 27, 2023 5:27:39 GMT -5
How in the world did Nacua drop to the 5th round? As a rookie he's already made Cooper Kupp expendable I wouldn't say that Puka has made him expendable, but this guy is beast. Wish that we had someone like that on this team. Got to have the QB first... :-) Seriously though, maybe its Robinson or Hyatt if they can get the ball more. Both of them have shown some solid talent. |
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 22, 2023 0:03:26 GMT -5
Since we will probably just be out of the reach of Harrison, I'll be looking at Malik Nabers as a potential top 10 pick. Looks like he has the WR1 traits that have been missing on this team for 5+ years. |
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Post by Analyst on Dec 7, 2023 11:30:31 GMT -5
Is Jameson Williams a bust (or busting) already?
He hasn't done anything in Detroit like I thought he would.
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Post by giants8493 on Jan 13, 2024 4:19:14 GMT -5
Is Jameson Williams a bust (or busting) already? He hasn't done anything in Detroit like I thought he would. probably yeah but he had issues. I'll give him one more year to get it together but why throw to him when they have laporta and st Brown ? |
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Post by piddy283 on Jan 30, 2024 14:02:49 GMT -5
McConkey from UGA looking real crisp running routes. Seems to have sure hands too.
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Post by Analyst on Jan 30, 2024 17:58:21 GMT -5
McConkey from UGA looking real crisp running routes. Seems to have sure hands too. Love Ladd. See him sneaking into the 2nd round. We need a legit #1, but Id still like him in Blue. Be cool to get Harrison and McConkey. |
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