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Post by jimmieray on Nov 21, 2022 8:18:31 GMT -5
It didn't survive the cold weather and it had a heating system below it. I'm surprised, then. I figured the crate area under the roots was allowing cold air to come in, and a heating system wold prevent that. |
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Post by Tyrell on Nov 21, 2022 9:18:53 GMT -5
They should play on bubbling, gurgling molten lava
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Post by jmike on Nov 21, 2022 10:15:13 GMT -5
Gotta say I'm truly disappointed we aren't going with natural grass Why couldn't the Giants do dirt like a baseball infield or a tennis court? It would be a safer natural surface and easy to maintain despite heavy use. Is there a reason besides appearance that this could not be a viable option? |
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Post by McCherry on Nov 26, 2022 15:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by DandyDon on Nov 27, 2022 0:41:06 GMT -5
Pat Leonard is the worst Giants beat reporter ever. "John Mara told me." John also told him they will "continue to review" why they have sucked for a decade. JM is good at making money running an NFL franchise, which is pretty easy once you get one. Creating a winning organization, not so much. Leonard is a joke. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 27, 2022 8:14:22 GMT -5
‘All options on the table’Statement from John Mara leaves door open for installation of grass surface “The next field in the stadium is the subject of ongoing discussion between the Jets, the stadium and us,” the Giants’ statement said. “John has heard from the players and other experts about playing surfaces as part of his roles on the player safety and health committee, competition committee and management council. He expects to have conversations with our players as we move along in the process of selecting a new field.”
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Post by mendy on Nov 27, 2022 8:33:20 GMT -5
Let's hope for whatever is best for the players!
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Post by SG88 on Nov 27, 2022 15:18:07 GMT -5
More Metlife Sniper Fire. Unreal
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 14, 2022 6:42:16 GMT -5
Kyler Murray tore his ACL on a non contact injury on natural grass. I understand that he was imagining they were playing in the Meadowlands though... |
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Post by repeatchamps on Dec 14, 2022 10:39:07 GMT -5
Kyler Murray tore his ACL on a non contact injury on natural grass. Yup and the method by which MetLife stadium could go to natural grass would be an identical mimic of the way it is done in Arizona. Not very encouraging for the natural grass option. |
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 14, 2022 14:32:28 GMT -5
There's a video on YouTube which explains very well how an ACL is torn. I didn't watch the whole thing so I don't know whether playing on natural grass or an artificial surface makes a difference. Very interesting frame by frame at approximately 2:56 of the video.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 14, 2022 14:40:17 GMT -5
The NFL did a study where It found that the rate of ACL injuries was 88 percent higher on FieldTurf than grass, and the rate of ankle sprains was 32 percent higher.
Of course, you can still tear your NFL on grass, you can tear it in a swimming pool. There is clearly a bigger picture here.
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 14, 2022 14:49:26 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. The type of movement and the force which is used to make that movement, to me, is a greater factor in tearing an ACL than the surface upon which the injury takes place.
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Post by Nick6475 on Dec 14, 2022 15:30:25 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. The type of movement and the force which is used to make that movement, to me, is a greater factor in tearing an ACL than the surface upon which the injury takes place. It's probably a combination of both, but NFL players are bigger, stronger, faster and are doing things that the human body was not meant to do at that size and weight. |
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Post by devilsadvocate on Dec 14, 2022 15:51:13 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. The type of movement and the force which is used to make that movement, to me, is a greater factor in tearing an ACL than the surface upon which the injury takes place. That doesn't mean you give up and don't replace the horrible artificial surface that is there. Control what you can control and that means improving field, ideally to turf. The Eagles are able to maintain a natural surface in the NE so Metlife should as well. I am not stupid and I recognize that two teams play in MetLife vs just one in Philly but still improvements can and should be made. |
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 14, 2022 16:09:14 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. The type of movement and the force which is used to make that movement, to me, is a greater factor in tearing an ACL than the surface upon which the injury takes place. Control what you can control and that means improving field, ideally to turf. The Eagles are able to maintain a natural surface in the NE so Metlife should as well. I am not stupid and I recognize that two teams play in MetLife vs just one in Philly but still improvements can and should be made. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying don't do anything. My point is simply that there are other factors involved in torn ACLs. If playing on grass eliminated the injury, then all NFL fields would have grass (of course there are climatic conditions that would prohibit the use of grass, but that's another issue.) If you watch the video that I posted above, you'll see an explanation of how a torn ACL occurs and that was Kyler Murray on grass. |
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 14, 2022 16:23:10 GMT -5
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Post by imgrate on Dec 14, 2022 17:05:16 GMT -5
Slit-film turf is the worst (statistically speaking). Which is the style that we currently have and also used to have prior to switching vendors a few years back |
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Post by imgrate on Dec 14, 2022 17:06:39 GMT -5
Kyler Murray tore his ACL on a non contact injury on natural grass. Your point? Is natural grass more or less likely to result in a player suffering a non contact injury? |
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 14, 2022 17:50:46 GMT -5
Kyler Murray tore his ACL on a non contact injury on natural grass. Anecdotal. What matters is the overall data. |
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Post by keyofgmen on Dec 14, 2022 18:08:20 GMT -5
Well, my son blew his ACL in a non-contact drill on natural grass...
STILL want grass at MetLife!!!
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 14, 2022 18:30:52 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. I agree. Muscle strength is much easier to increase than ligament strength. But the lack of give on artificial turf exacerbates the issue. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2022 13:37:54 GMT -5
You can train to make your muscles stronger, but you can't make your ligaments stronger. The type of movement and the force which is used to make that movement, to me, is a greater factor in tearing an ACL than the surface upon which the injury takes place. To be honest your ligaments get stronger when you lift along with the mussels where guys were having issues more when they were using performance enhancers the mussels starts to out do Tendons and Ligaments. What you just said is also factors in when force and mass combine to make the perfect storm. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2022 13:46:36 GMT -5
Well, my son blew his ACL in a non-contact drill on natural grass... STILL want grass at MetLife!!! It is the safer of the 2 Barkley and I believe OBJ s first ACL were both on grass in Chicago and Cleveland. All I know when I was power lifting my Tendons and ligaments kept everything tight I never used tight raps I always trained with sleeves but never raps. My buddy used to rap up so tight it added forty pounds to his squat he claimed he rapped me once I said no thanks. My trainer told me if I stayed all natural my ligaments and Tendons would strengthen with my training he was a biochemist that did power lifting and strongman competitively, for me it seemed to work. tho lifting is static we don't deal with force of running mass pounding the ground. |
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Post by keyofgmen on Dec 15, 2022 17:15:46 GMT -5
Well, my son blew his ACL in a non-contact drill on natural grass... STILL want grass at MetLife!!! It is the safer of the 2 Barkley and I believe OBJ s first ACL were both on grass in Chicago and Cleveland. All I know when I was power lifting my Tendons and ligaments kept everything tight I never used tight raps I always trained with sleeves but never raps. My buddy used to rap up so tight it added forty pounds to his squat he claimed he rapped me once I said no thanks. My trainer told me if I stayed all natural my ligaments and Tendons would strengthen with my training he was a biochemist that did power lifting and strongman competitively, for me it seemed to work. tho lifting is static we don't deal with force of running mass pounding the ground. haha... Foreign language to me! Never a lifter, I was naturally sculpted... Haha... |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2022 18:42:26 GMT -5
It is the safer of the 2 Barkley and I believe OBJ s first ACL were both on grass in Chicago and Cleveland. All I know when I was power lifting my Tendons and ligaments kept everything tight I never used tight raps I always trained with sleeves but never raps. My buddy used to rap up so tight it added forty pounds to his squat he claimed he rapped me once I said no thanks. My trainer told me if I stayed all natural my ligaments and Tendons would strengthen with my training he was a biochemist that did power lifting and strongman competitively, for me it seemed to work. tho lifting is static we don't deal with force of running mass pounding the ground. haha... Foreign language to me! Never a lifter, I was naturally sculpted... Haha... Key is a natural beast Adonis type dude lol |
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Post by Roosevelt on May 16, 2023 10:35:47 GMT -5
In case anyone has nothing better to do. Apparently Woody didn't.
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Post by jimmieray on May 16, 2023 11:32:12 GMT -5
In case anyone has nothing better to do. Apparently Woody didn't.
I hear they plan on putting "STOP HATRED" in the end zones for games - as a message to fans to learn to love this dump... |
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