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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:32:38 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 15:33:25 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well. ........Said no real Giants fan.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:34:31 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well. ........Said no real Giants fan. look how life works… there’s always a first time for everything.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 15:35:20 GMT -5
........Said no real Giants fan. look how life works… there’s always a first time for everything. Seems odd that you would advocate for an outcome that hurts our team the most.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 7, 2023 15:35:52 GMT -5
I expected it to go down to the wire.
But I didn’t LITERALLY think we’d be 25 mins from the tag being unavailable and still not a word on where they’re at.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:36:37 GMT -5
look how life works… there’s always a first time for everything. Seems odd that you would advocate for an outcome that hurts our team the most. I believe you can pay your QB and still build a solid team. Unpopular opinion I get it. The kids is only 25. With a raising cap. We will be ok.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:38:31 GMT -5
Seems odd that you would advocate for an outcome that hurts our team the most. I believe you can pay your QB and still build a solid team. Unpopular opinion I get it. The kids is only 25. With a raising cap. We will be ok. If he won't take $40M, tag him. This is coming from someone who thinks they should sign him.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 15:40:39 GMT -5
I believe you can pay your QB and still build a solid team. Unpopular opinion I get it. The kids is only 25. With a raising cap. We will be ok. If he won't take $40M, tag him. This is coming from someone who thinks they should sign him. I hope we do sign him to a team friendly deal. That way we can franchise Saquan and keep him for another year.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:40:59 GMT -5
I believe you can pay your QB and still build a solid team. Unpopular opinion I get it. The kids is only 25. With a raising cap. We will be ok. If he won't take $40M, tag him. This is coming from someone who thinks they should sign him. if they tag him I think he’s gone. Someone will offer a salary the Giants cannot match (cough Jets). Tag was never in play from my perspective. We will see though.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:43:22 GMT -5
If he won't take $40M, tag him. This is coming from someone who thinks they should sign him. I hope we do sign him to a team friendly deal. That way we can franchise Saquan and keep him for another year. This is so messed up that Jones's people are holding the Giants feet to the fire and the Giants are 18 minutes away from losing Barkley. If that happens, my opinion of Jones is going to be downgraded....
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 15:43:25 GMT -5
I doubt Daniel is in the room. This is all the beancounters on both sides.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:44:35 GMT -5
If he won't take $40M, tag him. This is coming from someone who thinks they should sign him. if they tag him I think he’s gone. Someone will offer a salary the Giants cannot match (cough Jets). Tag was never in play from my perspective. We will see though. Jackson could go before Jones does but you never know. This is actually pretty screwed up right now that the Giants are 16 minutes away from losing Barkley...
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:45:30 GMT -5
I doubt Daniel is in the room. This is all the beancounters on both sides. Jones is smart and they are working for him. I'm going to be pretty pissed if they are forced to tag Jones and lose Barkley....
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:46:57 GMT -5
if they tag him I think he’s gone. Someone will offer a salary the Giants cannot match (cough Jets). Tag was never in play from my perspective. We will see though. Jackson could go before Jones does but you never know. This is actually pretty screwed up right now that the Giants are 16 minutes away from losing Barkley... everyone’s reality would come crashing down if Saquon was the one who willingly took the team friendly deal and Jones got the big payout. It’s a possibility
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:48:29 GMT -5
T-minus 12 minutes boys get your popcorn ready
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:48:36 GMT -5
Jackson could go before Jones does but you never know. This is actually pretty screwed up right now that the Giants are 16 minutes away from losing Barkley... everyone’s reality would come crashing down if Saquon was the one who willingly took the team friendly deal and Jones got the big payout. It’s a possibility It's the 11th hour and 59th minute. We need some ****ing movement here!
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:49:29 GMT -5
everyone’s reality would come crashing down if Saquon was the one who willingly took the team friendly deal and Jones got the big payout. It’s a possibility It's the 11th hour and 59th minute. We need some ****ing movement here! 👀👀👀👀👀
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 15:52:36 GMT -5
I doubt Daniel is in the room. This is all the beancounters on both sides. Jones is smart and they are working for him. I'm going to be pretty pissed if they are forced to tag Jones and lose Barkley.... They would not be forced to give up Barkley. They offered Barkley 12.5 for 3 years. He could have taken it. They could make it a 4 or 5 year deal with voidable years to keep that first year cap lower than the tag.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 7, 2023 15:54:39 GMT -5
pro athletes rarely get what they deserve. They are either under or overpaid...Only superstar perennial all pros are even close to being worth it.... If Daniel gets 45mill, then Philly has to give Hurtz 50 million....No way Hurts is going to get less than DJ...If we overpay DJ, we screw a lot of teams....even Dak could decide to sit out Luckily Carr adjusted the market.....But Hurts and Lamar Jackson are going to want $50 mill....... Give DJ 40 mill and Philly is hosed....hehe
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:55:04 GMT -5
Jones is smart and they are working for him. I'm going to be pretty pissed if they are forced to tag Jones and lose Barkley.... They would not be forced to give up Barkley. They offered Barkley 12.5 for 3 years. He could have taken it. They could make it a 4 or 5 year deal with voidable years to keep that first year cap lower than the tag. They would be forced since the Giants would lose their leverage and wouldn't be able to tag Barkley. If the Giants are able to sign Jones and tag Barkley, they could come to an agreement before the season. Without the tag, Barkley is finished with the Giants.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:55:37 GMT -5
Jones is smart and they are working for him. I'm going to be pretty pissed if they are forced to tag Jones and lose Barkley.... They would not be forced to give up Barkley. They offered Barkley 12.5 for 3 years. He could have taken it. They could make it a 4 or 5 year deal with voidable years to keep that first year cap lower than the tag. the problem is we have young talent due money who havent been able to showcase their skills over their rookie contracts. whether it’s due to bad teams or injuries. last season everything click for those two guys, jones and Barkley, with minimal improvements to the overall team. Both of their agents are salivating at the mouth right now
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 15:56:08 GMT -5
They would not be forced to give up Barkley. They offered Barkley 12.5 for 3 years. He could have taken it. They could make it a 4 or 5 year deal with voidable years to keep that first year cap lower than the tag. They would be forced since the Giants would lose their leverage and wouldn't be able to tag Barkley. If the Giants are able to sign Jones and tag Barkley, they could come to an agreement before the season. Without the tag, Barkley is finished with the Giants. I disagree that Barkley would have to go but it doesnt matter. DJ stays!!! Deal reached!!!
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 15:57:23 GMT -5
They would be forced since the Giants would lose their leverage and wouldn't be able to tag Barkley. If the Giants are able to sign Jones and tag Barkley, they could come to an agreement before the season. Without the tag, Barkley is finished with the Giants. I disagree that Barkley would have to go but it doesnt matter. DJ stays!!! Deal reached!!! I didn't mean that Barkley would have to go, I just meant that Barkley would leave for a better deal in FA. Really, F yeah!
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 7, 2023 15:57:51 GMT -5
Yeah! Don't cave DJ! Get tagged and save the Giants a lot of poorly spent guaranteed money over the next few years!
If DJ doesn't take $100ish million in guaranteed money, it will likely be the biggest mistake he makes. When you continue to put up mediocre numbers, eventually people figure out you're mediocre.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 15:58:07 GMT -5
I need the numbers 😱😱😱😱
Welcome back DJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 7, 2023 16:37:10 GMT -5
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 16:39:49 GMT -5
I need the numbers 😱😱😱😱 Welcome back DJ!!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus...He caved.
Good for us.
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Post by southerner on Mar 7, 2023 16:40:31 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well. While I agree he played on some awful teams, I still think $40M was too much. The Giants are betting the QB value will skyrocket over the next few years because of Herbert and Burrow, but those two guys are great. Anyway it is what it is and now the Giants must figure out free agency and the draft.
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Mar 7, 2023 16:42:46 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well. While I agree he played on some awful teams, I still think $40M was too much. The Giants are betting the QB value will skyrocket over the next few years because of Herbert and Burrow, but those two guys are great. Anyway it is what it is and now the Giants must figure out free agency and the draft. +1. I know we were going to have to pay the guy but I thought it would’ve been under 40. Meh what are you going to do. Hopefully he build off this past year and continues to improve
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:42:47 GMT -5
Get every penny you deserve. After what you had play behind for 4 years I would demand the best or nothing at all as well. While I agree he played on some awful teams, I still think $40M was too much. The Giants are betting the QB value will skyrocket over the next few years because of Herbert and Burrow, but those two guys are great. Anyway it is what it is and now the Giants must figure out free agency and the draft. I believe the contrary. I think the Giants got their value early because they see the potential after 1 year of working with Jones.
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