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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2023 7:31:33 GMT -5
Dunce cap - the call was a down block. the whole line and TE are to slant, the QB turns to draw the linebacker and the play goes the opposite. Bellinger is the seal. Not saying it's the right call yet as to happened, you've been schooled on basics. Not being schooled when the Giants almost incurred a safety and was pummeled by Bosa. No one sealing Bosa. You're defending the indefensible. End of topic. By the way the play was a pass play but don't tell anyone. you don’t understand the play or the blocking assignment. You’re a bystander guessing. And yes, the target was #3 which is no secret so there isn’t any secret to share. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2023 7:39:38 GMT -5
Both you and Ranger are pathetic. Hoping Bosa would bite on play action is no substitute for either Neal taking on Bosa or Bellinger lining up in front of him rather than giving him a clear path to sack Jones. But not surprised you believe that's how the Giants should defend Bosa. Bellinger too far away from Bosa and therefore never had a chance to block Bosa. A team should not assume anything. Reinventing terminology lol. The idea is not for Bosa to bite. Even the other site doesn’t understand the terminology. Bosa has a gap, you don’t venture outside your gap at step one. It’s been establish Bellinger needs to be tighter and crash down. Pathetic is the student incapable of leaning and you’ve always posted a bigger game than you actually comprehend. You’re primarily talk and now it’s crying. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 23, 2023 8:31:41 GMT -5
Bellinger had to line up in front of Bosa, not outside, so Bosa would not have clear path o Jones. Given where Bellinger lined-up he had no chance to block isa Seems you agree somewhat when you say he should have been " tighter," covering Bosa.
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 23, 2023 9:46:47 GMT -5
**** Breida and **** you. Not a surprising response from an unhinged and ignorant moron. You seem like a prime example of one that slipped through the cracks of the VA system. I don't post a lot.. but I read almost everything on this board. It seems obvious that rage fueled responses can be evidence for out-of-control anger, often a symptom of PTSD. And I don't mean as a result of watching the games... tho they're coming close! |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2023 9:58:08 GMT -5
Bellinger had to line up in front of Bosa, not outside, so Bosa would not have clear path o Jones. Given where Bellinger lined-up he had no chance to block isa Seems you agree somewhat when you say he should have been " tighter," covering Bosa. wrong again student. On a down block Bellinger needs to be on the outside shoulder of the defender just like all the linemen. Otherwise, it’s not a down block. Discovering what tight and wide means indicates you should seek extra help b/c you’re way behind. Learn the game. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 23, 2023 18:07:32 GMT -5
Bellinger had to line up in front of Bosa, not outside, so Bosa would not have clear path o Jones. Given where Bellinger lined-up he had no chance to block isa Seems you agree somewhat when you say he should have been " tighter," covering Bosa. wrong again student. On a down block Bellinger needs to be on the outside shoulder of the defender just like all the linemen. Otherwise, it’s not a down block. Discovering what tight and wide means indicates you should seek extra help b/c you’re way behind. Learn the game. You're right how could I be so dumb. It was good for Bellinger to be outside of Bosa so he could sack Jones for a big loss. Will never question you again. I guess we should all be thankful that the Giants lost yardage age by lining up correctly. Guess Daboll has no regrets either. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2023 18:22:24 GMT -5
wrong again student. On a down block Bellinger needs to be on the outside shoulder of the defender just like all the linemen. Otherwise, it’s not a down block. Discovering what tight and wide means indicates you should seek extra help b/c you’re way behind. Learn the game. It was good for Bellinger to be outside of Bosa so he could sack Jones for a big loss. Will never question you again. I guess we should all be thankful that the Giants lost yardage age by lining up correctly. Guess Daboll has no regrets either. we would all like to know. |
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Post by Modog on Sept 24, 2023 3:43:13 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline.
dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 24, 2023 11:34:06 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. imo, Bellinger should have his hand on the ground vs Bosa. I would say that’s on the OC b/c you have to know that play has to be modified vs that type defender. Tighter split, yeah. Yet anybody blaming Neal is wrong. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 24, 2023 12:42:14 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline. dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Sept 24, 2023 13:02:50 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline. dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. Probably or definitely ? Big difference. Is it just your opinion that he seens to make good pre-snap reads? How would anyone know if they don't know the play called and what the adjustment was? The results definitley don't point to reading the defense correctly. Any articles or other evidence that can solidify this answer. This was one of his snaps on Thursday. He looks like he doesn't know what is going on. x.com/TonyCMKE/status/1705033424933675251?s=20 |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 24, 2023 13:14:28 GMT -5
He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. Probably or definitely ? Big difference. Is it just your opinion that he seens to make good pre-snap reads? How would anyone know if they don't know the play called and what the adjustment was? The results definitley don't point to reading the defense correctly. Any articles or other evidence that can solidify this answer. This was one of his snaps on Thursday. He looks like he doesn't know what is going on. x.com/TonyCMKE/status/1705033424933675251?s=20I assume you're not seriously trying to make a case against Jones's pre snap decisions based on whatever that was. |
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Post by Modog on Sept 24, 2023 13:31:26 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline. dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. LOL |
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Post by bluebuddha on Sept 24, 2023 13:37:18 GMT -5
Probably or definitely ? Big difference. Is it just your opinion that he seens to make good pre-snap reads? How would anyone know if they don't know the play called and what the adjustment was? The results definitley don't point to reading the defense correctly. Any articles or other evidence that can solidify this answer. This was one of his snaps on Thursday. He looks like he doesn't know what is going on. x.com/TonyCMKE/status/1705033424933675251?s=20I assume you're not seriously trying to make a case against Jones's pre snap decisions based on whatever that was. no as I mentioned the results of the offense and it efficiency, yards per game and scoring leans towards DJ needing work on his reads better. The last game albeit against a good defense did not have many sustained drives. Most QBs who can read the defense properly are able keep the offense on the field. I remember 2 3rd downs where DJ threw well short of the first down marker with no chance for the WR to get any YAC. |
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Post by jros on Sept 24, 2023 18:35:13 GMT -5
I assume you're not seriously trying to make a case against Jones's pre snap decisions based on whatever that was. no as I mentioned the results of the offense and it efficiency, yards per game and scoring leans towards DJ needing work on his reads better. The last game albeit against a good defense did not have many sustained drives. Most QBs who can read the defense properly are able keep the offense on the field. I remember 2 3rd downs where DJ threw well short of the first down marker with no chance for the WR to get any YAC. That’s not true against elite defenses who get pressure. You really didn’t provide any evidence at all that he has issues reading defenses. Throwing it short a couple of times does not prove anything. The fact that they didn’t have many sustained. Drives doesn’t prove anything either. Dj has been very good at going through his reads when there is sufficient time. |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 24, 2023 20:23:54 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline. dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. Then explain his failure to either change the protection or play on that pre snap read. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 24, 2023 21:27:45 GMT -5
He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. Then explain his failure to either change the protection or play on that pre snap read. You're blaming the QB for not anticipating a missed block? |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 24, 2023 21:29:13 GMT -5
I like how we are arguing about whether it was Bellinger, Neal or the Offensive coordinator fault for that play design. Why is no one blaming Daniel Jones.. good QBs should recognize when they have a free runner coming at them.. this Is what Eli did all career, audible and make adjustments at the line. Someone like Bosa,a premier pass rusher should be accounted for all times especially by a 160m QB. DJ cant read defenses and has terrible pocket awareness, this is exasperated by our subpar Oline. dJ NEVER makes any presnap adjustments He's probably one of the better QB's in the league at making pre-snap adjustments. Jones? |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 24, 2023 21:57:00 GMT -5
Then explain his failure to either change the protection or play on that pre snap read. You're blaming the QB for not anticipating a missed block? There was no way they could have blocked Bosa the way they were lined up. Bellinger was not in line to make that block. The play was a roll out to Bosa's side and a pass to Shepard. Watch the play. It was doomed before it started unless Jones saw it and made the adjustment. He didn't and it was absolutely predictable what happened. |
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