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Post by TEM on Jan 14, 2024 14:16:09 GMT -5
He is 15-18 -1. 44% The same record as McAdoo There is nothing shiny about that. McAdoo got fired. Not comparable. McAdoo followed Coughlin and was already the OC with the likes of Beckham and Eli to work with. He didnt understand having football intelligence throughout the entire roster( not Bobby Rainey) was important. He also became a poser and the players sniffed him out. Lost lockerroom. Daboll came to us a proven coordinator/assistant in many areas. A respected football man around the league and part of Championships in both College and the NFL. McAdoo came to us as a guy who could install a West Coast offense so Eli would get hit less and throw less picks. Daboll followed the most dysfunctional era in NYG football since the mid 70s. Not comparable in any way. You know the unprecedented challenges Daboll faced this season. I am sorry, All the GM and HC have is their win loss record. Until it gets better. I am not going with excuses. The GM and HC configured that O-line. They owned the outcome.
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Post by TEM on Jan 14, 2024 14:19:20 GMT -5
I hope he and the GM get it together next season. I do not want to go through another roof tare off. It is playoffs or packing. Well, lets hope Cowboys choke to the Packers(who NYG beat with Tommy DeVito, yes a playoff team) . That will definitely result in upheaval. NYG will compete for the division then. Keep the faith. N.F.L.--- Not For Long, in any direction. Keep the faith. I always have faith. At the same time, I refuse to forget how bad that Offense was.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 14, 2024 14:53:39 GMT -5
Not sure who this writer is but it's worth knowing it's out there...
The luster on Brian Daboll’s bald head rubbed off in record time
The Giants coach mishandled so much this season, and that now seems like business as usual for the franchise
While the New York Giants didn’t intend to undergo drastic changes this offseason, they are now. On the same day that head coach Brian Daboll said he expected both offensive and defensive coordinators to return, the latter reportedly went scorched earth on his boss before storming out. With Wink Martindale gone, and god knows who in, New York can add “Hiring a DC” to its growing to-do list in the coming months.
The alleged reason Martindale became irate was Daboll firing outside linebackers coach Drew Wilkins and defensive assistant Kevin Wilkins. The two brothers came to the organization with Martindale from Baltimore, and as the 2023 season spiraled with the head coach and DC at odds, the defensive staff partook in a game of office politics that ultimately put them all out of a job.
Reports say Wink and Kevin Wilkins progressively spurned direction from Daboll, whose primary focus is usually on the offensive side of the ball, and felt they’re only beholden to ownership. Fissures between offense and defense aren’t uncommon in football, but it’s on the head coach to make sure the two are copacetic.
Daboll clearly felt the locker room slipping away because his offense wasn’t carrying its weight. That’s why he inserted himself into OC Mike Kafka’s business midseason, which apparently didn’t sit too well with Kafka either. Thus the reason Daboll specified that he expects Kafka to return in that same news conference Monday.
This is what a lack of organizational control looks like. Staff turnover is inevitable, especially in the NFL, so if Daboll wanted to ax a subordinate who was underperforming — like special teams coordinator Thomas McGaughey and offensive line coach Bobby Johnson, who also were let go — that’s above board. The difference between McGaughey and Johnson getting the boot and the Wilkins brothers is the defense wasn’t really the issue.
If Daboll and Martindale were already at odds, firing his right-hand man, and then speaking for Wink, before speaking to Wink, was amateur hour. To recap, less than 12 months after winning Coach of the Year, Daboll is looking for defensive and special teams coordinators, offensive line and linebackers coaches, and also has to fix an offense that was never truly working to begin with and will be without its starting quarterback until midseason next year at the earliest.
Oh, also, Saquon Barkley sounds despondent about the potential of another stint under the franchise tag, and the Giants have the sixth pick in a draft heavy on QB talent. General manager Joe Schoen isn’t free of blame either as it was his decision to tether the franchise to Daniel Jones following an above-average, likely outlier of a season.
Unfortunately, antics like these are becoming all too commonplace for the Giants. The franchise likes to tout itself up there with the Pittsburghs and Green Bays of the NFL, yet there’s no direction, little patience, and the only recent constants are drama and losing.
The Giants needed to ace last offseason to keep up Daboll’s momentum. That didn’t happen. Now, they face another crucial few months with considerably less flexibility and twice as many questions.
I like my HC just the way he is.
You have to admit that I did a smashing job of matching that Daboll pic to the headline but I digress and remember how high you were on Joe Judge. I was sold on him too. But wasn't it you that thought that Judge took over personnel from Gettleman in addition to his HC duties?
I like Daboll and I like Joe Schoen, but if I'm being honest, their philosophy on team building and the results thus far are not much different than what we've had. No doubt the new regime seems to love analytics and gender diversity which is all very nice but a bit difficult to celebrate when you're team sucks ass. And that's what I'm looking forward to- not sucking ass.
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 14, 2024 17:23:35 GMT -5
I like my HC just the way he is.
You have to admit that I did a smashing job of matching that Daboll pic to the headline but I digress and remember how high you were on Joe Judge. I was sold on him too. But wasn't it you that thought that Judge took over personnel from Gettleman in addition to his HC duties?
I like Daboll and I like Joe Schoen, but if I'm being honest, their philosophy on team building and the results thus far are not much different than what we've had. No doubt the new regime seems to love analytics and gender diversity which is all very nice but a bit difficult to celebrate when you're team sucks ass. And that's what I'm looking forward to- not sucking ass.
Absolutely, I think Joe Judge had more power than Dave in picking players. I also think the drafts were better then as well. As much as I bought into Joe's bluster, there came a point where we all know that's all it was. The victory formation deep in our own territory was a good indication of that.
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