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Post by imgrate on Feb 28, 2024 17:49:37 GMT -5
It also shows how much work ethic the guys have… things like - you knew you were going to get weighed at this event, yet you’re still 400. Lbs?? If you can’t be bothered to prep for the job, how can you be expected to work hard once you have a gtd contract? Also gives an inkling as to how competitive the guy is. agree Lol, my bad. Blind
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Post by Analyst on Feb 28, 2024 20:05:30 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock.
80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs.
Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 28, 2024 20:53:50 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol lol … Milton is awful.
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 28, 2024 21:21:12 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol lol … Milton is awful. but to Analyst's point, he does have a cannon of an arm...
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Post by Analyst on Feb 28, 2024 21:28:54 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol lol … Milton is awful. So was Anthony Richardson IMO. I get it, he has a huge mountain to climb to become an NFL starter. Not claiming him to be great. That's why he is a mid-late rounder. However, he has all the physical tools you look for in a QB and then some, and will have a monster combine and open eyes that didnt see him before. I bet he will be the talk of the combine to be honest. Worth the squeeze if we don't go QB early. I like his potential risk vs reward.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 28, 2024 21:47:22 GMT -5
on GMF they just said that Bo Nix, JJ McCarthy and Michael Penix will all throw. Caleb Williams will not, no word on Drake Maye yet. The top 3 QB's will not throw. Apparently Williams is not doing any drills at all and not running the 40. He will interview with teams. This is 2 days since your question I'm sure you knew this by now but didn't know if you knew all he was doing is interviewing.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 28, 2024 22:00:42 GMT -5
on GMF they just said that Bo Nix, JJ McCarthy and Michael Penix will all throw. Caleb Williams will not, no word on Drake Maye yet. Very interested to see Bo Nix throw. Most talking heads mention his arm as being an issue but I haven’t seen that when watching him. It seems more than capable and he looks like he has the tools to be a solid dual threat QB. Same can be said for McCarthy, but his stock seems to be on the rise while Nix continues to be an afterthought. I seen Bo Nix 1 game this year and he threw 5 or 6 TD passes in the 1st half. Was called away and didn't see 2nd half. Don't think he threw any lol, not sure. When JJ throws at the combine it will be more than I seen him in 2 games in the college playoffs. All I seen McC do in 2 games was hand off the ball. Looking forward to seeing him throw. Pennix everyone is afraid of his injuries. A shame he is just such a risk to put all your eggs in one basket.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 6:39:59 GMT -5
Very interested to see Bo Nix throw. Most talking heads mention his arm as being an issue but I haven’t seen that when watching him. It seems more than capable and he looks like he has the tools to be a solid dual threat QB. Same can be said for McCarthy, but his stock seems to be on the rise while Nix continues to be an afterthought. I seen Bo Nix 1 game this year and he threw 5 or 6 TD passes in the 1st half. Was called away and didn't see 2nd half. Don't think he threw any lol, not sure. When JJ throws at the combine it will be more than I seen him in 2 games in the college playoffs. All I seen McC do in 2 games was hand off the ball. Looking forward to seeing him throw. Pennix everyone is afraid of his injuries. A shame he is just such a risk to put all your eggs in one basket. I keep wanting to like Pennix but I haven’t been able to change my mind. His game looks slow to me. I’m just not impressed, and as you mention his injuries are a real concern. I have him at QB6 of the big-6, which means there’s no doubt he’ll be the best in the class. 😂
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 6:43:48 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol Good call, and I agree. He caught my eye a few weeks ago but I haven’t watched much of him yet. It’s hard to get a gauge on anything watching Tennessee’s offense but I don’t understand why he’s not being talked about more. From what I watched he has every tool you can ask for.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 7:11:03 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol Good call, and I agree. He caught my eye a few weeks ago but I haven’t watched much of him yet. It’s hard to get a gauge on anything watching Tennessee’s offense but I don’t understand why he’s not being talked about more. From what I watched he has every tool you can ask for. I just watched the first half of the Florida game and that offense really is atrocious. As an offensive player, if I had legit NFL aspirations Tennessee would be the last place I’d want to play. Nothing translates to the pros which can’t help the players stock.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 7:49:00 GMT -5
Good call, and I agree. He caught my eye a few weeks ago but I haven’t watched much of him yet. It’s hard to get a gauge on anything watching Tennessee’s offense but I don’t understand why he’s not being talked about more. From what I watched he has every tool you can ask for. I just watched the first half of the Florida game and that offense really is atrocious. As an offensive player, if I had legit NFL aspirations Tennessee would be the last place I’d want to play. Nothing translates to the pros which can’t help the players stock. I honestly don't see much of a difference between him and Anthony Richardson in college. AR got all the hype and had a much better offense around him.
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Post by bavarobeast on Feb 29, 2024 8:07:27 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol I have been watching Milton since he arrived at Michigan - Harbaugh couldn’t develop him. I then watched him at Tennessee for 3 seasons - Heupel couldn’t develop him. Everyone already knows he can throw the ball a mile. Other than that he can’t do Jack Schitt. He’s proven that consistently. Think about all the physical traits he has and then ask yourself why isn’t he ranked higher. It’s because he hasn’t done a damn thing in 6 seasons of college football.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 9:12:14 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol I have been watching Milton since he arrived at Michigan - Harbaugh couldn’t develop him. I then watched him at Tennessee for 3 seasons - Heupel couldn’t develop him. Everyone already knows he can throw the ball a mile. Other than that he can’t do Jack Schitt. He’s proven that consistently. Think about all the physical traits he has and then ask yourself why isn’t he ranked higher. It’s because he hasn’t done a damn thing in 6 seasons of college football. Yes. Agreed. That is why he is a late round flyer. I've seen teams take gambles on QBs like this in the 1st round. I think Milton goes 4th-5th-6th round. Someone will take the chance to try to develop him. Maybe it's Brian Daboll who developed Josh Allen. And I know I keep saying it, but Anthony Richardson was pretty much the same prospect to me as far as QB skills go. Big strong athlete who will wow at the combine but struggled as a QB at times in college. The combine was built for QBs like Richardson and Milton.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 9:38:42 GMT -5
I just watched the first half of the Florida game and that offense really is atrocious. As an offensive player, if I had legit NFL aspirations Tennessee would be the last place I’d want to play. Nothing translates to the pros which can’t help the players stock. I honestly don't see much of a difference between him and Anthony Richardson in college. AR got all the hype and had a much better offense around him. I really can't say. I didn't watch any film on QBs last season. This is the first time I've actually done any sort of "deep dive" into the QB position because it's the first time in my adult life I expect and want us to draft one.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 29, 2024 12:26:04 GMT -5
So was Anthony Richardson IMO. I get it, he has a huge mountain to climb to become an NFL starter. Not claiming him to be great. That's why he is a mid-late rounder. However, he has all the physical tools you look for in a QB and then some, and will have a monster combine and open eyes that didnt see him before. I bet he will be the talk of the combine to be honest. Worth the squeeze if we don't go QB early. I like his potential risk vs reward. All the skills except that he can't hit the broad side of a barn ... horribly inaccurate If anything, he's a TE in the NFL
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 13:03:56 GMT -5
So was Anthony Richardson IMO. I get it, he has a huge mountain to climb to become an NFL starter. Not claiming him to be great. That's why he is a mid-late rounder. However, he has all the physical tools you look for in a QB and then some, and will have a monster combine and open eyes that didnt see him before. I bet he will be the talk of the combine to be honest. Worth the squeeze if we don't go QB early. I like his potential risk vs reward. All the skills except that he can't hit the broad side of a barn ... horribly inaccurate If anything, he's a TE in the NFL Sounds like scouting reports for Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Josh Allen.... Listen, you know Im not banking on this kid being a star QB, but he has all the things you cant teach, and GMs LOVE that. They always think they can mold them and with the right coaching, develop them. I dont see Milton as any different. Will he succeed? Who knows. But I dont know if Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Drake Maye have it all to be great picks either. If Im the Giants and I dont go QB in the 1st/2nd rounds, Im risking a 4th-5th rounder for Milton if he is still there. He may go undrafted because he is really raw or has bad interviews, or after his combine, he could be the next hot name riding up the boards like Anthony Richardson did. Senior year at Tennessee, without much around him at all, he had 64.7% comp percentage, 27 total TDs to 5 INTs, and over 2800 yards vs SEC defenses. To put that in perspective, In his senior year, Daniel Jones had a 60.5% comp percentage, 25 total TDs to 9 INTs, and 2600+ yards in the ACC. Both had about 300 yards rushing. If he has a great combine and kills the interview process, I could see him shooting up the boards into the late 1st to 2nd round picks.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 29, 2024 15:30:11 GMT -5
All the skills except that he can't hit the broad side of a barn ... horribly inaccurate If anything, he's a TE in the NFL Sounds like scouting reports for Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Josh Allen.... Listen, you know Im not banking on this kid being a star QB, but he has all the things you cant teach, and GMs LOVE that. They always think they can mold them and with the right coaching, develop them. I dont see Milton as any different. Will he succeed? Who knows. But I dont know if Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Drake Maye have it all to be great picks either. If Im the Giants and I dont go QB in the 1st/2nd rounds, Im risking a 4th-5th rounder for Milton if he is still there. He may go undrafted because he is really raw or has bad interviews, or after his combine, he could be the next hot name riding up the boards like Anthony Richardson did. Senior year at Tennessee, without much around him at all, he had 64.7% comp percentage, 27 total TDs to 5 INTs, and over 2800 yards vs SEC defenses. To put that in perspective, In his senior year, Daniel Jones had a 60.5% comp percentage, 25 total TDs to 9 INTs, and 2600+ yards in the ACC. Both had about 300 yards rushing. If he has a great combine and kills the interview process, I could see him shooting up the boards into the late 1st to 2nd round picks. He has a zero percent chance of being drafted in the first or second rounds.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 16:08:55 GMT -5
Sounds like scouting reports for Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Josh Allen.... Listen, you know Im not banking on this kid being a star QB, but he has all the things you cant teach, and GMs LOVE that. They always think they can mold them and with the right coaching, develop them. I dont see Milton as any different. Will he succeed? Who knows. But I dont know if Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Drake Maye have it all to be great picks either. If Im the Giants and I dont go QB in the 1st/2nd rounds, Im risking a 4th-5th rounder for Milton if he is still there. He may go undrafted because he is really raw or has bad interviews, or after his combine, he could be the next hot name riding up the boards like Anthony Richardson did. Senior year at Tennessee, without much around him at all, he had 64.7% comp percentage, 27 total TDs to 5 INTs, and over 2800 yards vs SEC defenses. To put that in perspective, In his senior year, Daniel Jones had a 60.5% comp percentage, 25 total TDs to 9 INTs, and 2600+ yards in the ACC. Both had about 300 yards rushing. If he has a great combine and kills the interview process, I could see him shooting up the boards into the late 1st to 2nd round picks. He has a zero percent chance of being drafted in the first or second rounds. Well, not with Dave Gettleman out of the NFL.
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 29, 2024 16:47:11 GMT -5
fun watching the big guys do their drills. Byron Murphy was pretty impressive, so was Braden Fiske. Group 2 getting set to go.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 29, 2024 20:57:19 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol He is a lot like Allen coming out I remember watching some of Allens college tape he couldln't hit the broad side of a barn but could throw the ball though it lol he was raw didn't look like a NFL player. Something that if it's there Accuracy anticipation timing it can be fixed with a great work ethic and better coaching from his private coach first of all then his QB coach when at the facility.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 29, 2024 21:02:31 GMT -5
All the skills except that he can't hit the broad side of a barn ... horribly inaccurate If anything, he's a TE in the NFL Sounds like scouting reports for Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Josh Allen.... Listen, you know Im not banking on this kid being a star QB, but he has all the things you cant teach, and GMs LOVE that. They always think they can mold them and with the right coaching, develop them. I dont see Milton as any different. Will he succeed? Who knows. But I dont know if Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Drake Maye have it all to be great picks either. If Im the Giants and I dont go QB in the 1st/2nd rounds, Im risking a 4th-5th rounder for Milton if he is still there. He may go undrafted because he is really raw or has bad interviews, or after his combine, he could be the next hot name riding up the boards like Anthony Richardson did. Senior year at Tennessee, without much around him at all, he had 64.7% comp percentage, 27 total TDs to 5 INTs, and over 2800 yards vs SEC defenses. To put that in perspective, In his senior year, Daniel Jones had a 60.5% comp percentage, 25 total TDs to 9 INTs, and 2600+ yards in the ACC. Both had about 300 yards rushing. If he has a great combine and kills the interview process, I could see him shooting up the boards into the late 1st to 2nd round picks. I'm with you on Milton build out the roster and try to develop Milton at worst he will be a solid backup. Also agree that if he does great on the board shows off that howitzer he has and just prove to them that he is gonna be a tireless worker he will rise fast.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 29, 2024 21:04:59 GMT -5
So was Anthony Richardson IMO. I get it, he has a huge mountain to climb to become an NFL starter. Not claiming him to be great. That's why he is a mid-late rounder. However, he has all the physical tools you look for in a QB and then some, and will have a monster combine and open eyes that didnt see him before. I bet he will be the talk of the combine to be honest. Worth the squeeze if we don't go QB early. I like his potential risk vs reward. All the skills except that he can't hit the broad side of a barn ... horribly inaccurate If anything, he's a TE in the NFL He looks a lot like Allen did coming out now no one knows wether he could correct all of that but if he can he will be a greta QB 4th or 5th round he can sit for a couple years and learn.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 29, 2024 21:13:39 GMT -5
I have been watching Milton since he arrived at Michigan - Harbaugh couldn’t develop him. I then watched him at Tennessee for 3 seasons - Heupel couldn’t develop him. Everyone already knows he can throw the ball a mile. Other than that he can’t do Jack Schitt. He’s proven that consistently. Think about all the physical traits he has and then ask yourself why isn’t he ranked higher. It’s because he hasn’t done a damn thing in 6 seasons of college football. Yes. Agreed. That is why he is a late round flyer. I've seen teams take gambles on QBs like this in the 1st round. I think Milton goes 4th-5th-6th round. Someone will take the chance to try to develop him. Maybe it's Brian Daboll who developed Josh Allen. And I know I keep saying it, but Anthony Richardson was pretty much the same prospect to me as far as QB skills go. Big strong athlete who will wow at the combine but struggled as a QB at times in college. The combine was built for QBs like Richardson and Milton. He is more like a Blank Canvas they can just build him from the ground up since nothing in that offense translates to the NFL
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 29, 2024 22:19:10 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol why? There is no defense. Great athlete but the film doesn’t lie.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 22:28:02 GMT -5
Joe Milton III is going to put on a show and probably raise his draft stock. 80 yard bombs. Great speed. Prototypical size at 6'5" 230lbs. Pair him with Hyatt and that would be fun. Not sure about the short intermediate stuff though lol why? There is no defense. Great athlete but the film doesn’t lie. We always see a QB shoot up the mocks and boards. Always. Milton is the perfect candidate for it this year. Let's see what he does this weekend. You know he is throwing, running and jumping. Interviews will be key
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 22:39:37 GMT -5
I heard Dallas Turner and Chop Robinson conquered today. Top 2 pass rushers.
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 29, 2024 22:44:23 GMT -5
why? There is no defense. Great athlete but the film doesn’t lie. We always see a QB shoot up the mocks and boards. Always. Milton is the perfect candidate for it this year. Let's see what he does this weekend. You know he is throwing, running and jumping. Interviews will be key maybe the mocks do and certainly these fans. lol, we see that yearly. The teams have been scouting these QBs for a long while. Interviews for impressions, board/film work questions/answers I think it ore valuable now.
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Post by TEM on Mar 1, 2024 6:57:27 GMT -5
This is my QB list and ranking within the top 500 Prospect list. This class really is not that good. It is what the computer pumped out. Link to QB List
MY opinion The Best QB on this list is 2nd round talent. Rember the draft is nothing more than a pay scale. Some GMs are willing to overpay. At times they get bit for it. If it wasn't, each pick would not have a perceived pay scale attached to it.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 1, 2024 7:08:22 GMT -5
I heard Dallas Turner and Chop Robinson conquered today. Top 2 pass rushers. both had excellent days, both in their 40 times and the drills.
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Post by TEM on Mar 1, 2024 7:09:53 GMT -5
I heard Dallas Turner and Chop Robinson conquered today. Top 2 pass rushers. I have Turner ranked at 13 and Robinson at 39
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