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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 20, 2024 21:22:57 GMT -5
The Eagles cut plenty of players, just last year... Within the first few hours, the Eagles lost four starters from the NFL's No. 2 defense – T.J. Edwards, Marcus Epps, Javon Hargrave and Kyzir White. In the next few days, they also lost Pro Bowl running back Miles Sanders, starting guard Isaac Seumalo and NFL interception leader Chauncey Gardner-Johnson.Probably why their defense sucked this year. Cowboys are losing players this year, as is Baltimore. Nobody great team can keep everyone. Schoen wasted almost 20% of the cap on a bad QB...then had to let 2 of the top 5 most talented players walk. That's not a good way to build a roster. He didn't have to let them go, he chose to. He doesn't value putting big money into those positions even if super talented. He extended Thomas, Dex, Jones, Traded for Waller, Signed Okreke to a 4 year deal, Runyan to a 3 year deal. Traded for and extended Burns. Used premium picks on EDGE,RT,WR,CB,C. I'll never believe that if Schoen had another $40 million, he wouldn't have resigned X and SB. While I agree that he chose Burns over those 2, he was forced to choose because of one really bad decision.
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Mar 20, 2024 21:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by miggs on Mar 20, 2024 21:40:33 GMT -5
Bad decision? Who was Schoen going win with other than Jones? You really think the Giants either last year or this incoming season was going to have a better QB? No way.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 20, 2024 22:07:56 GMT -5
Thing with is this front office prescribes strictly to positional value, for me there is a lot of Gray area when it comes to RBs and safety's Barkley is and can be much more then just a runner thats why the Giants offense struggles even more than usual when he is not available. McKinney can do almost everything as a safety his and Barkley value are much higher than the average safety that can play one spot and not be versatile same with Barkley as far as RBs go. Teams need to have a plan for him or he will wreck a game, in Philly we might see just how good he is because they have WRS that have to be covered and a QB that has to accounted for in the run game SQB is gonna have a lot of alone time with LBS and Safeties in the pattern or with the ball in his hands if they block the way they have for years he is gonna be 2 three yards into the second level before being touched alot. To bad it's with Philly it would have been fun to watch. Plus, Philly will probably have the good sense to use Barkley in the screen game. That’s something the Giants didn’t do nearly enough of. Facts. Never used him properly in the passing game after his rookie season. He’s gonna be an absolute monster for Philly. At least we got something in return for him. Wait…..
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Mar 20, 2024 22:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by Modog on Mar 20, 2024 22:24:40 GMT -5
Plus, Philly will probably have the good sense to use Barkley in the screen game. That’s something the Giants didn’t do nearly enough of. Facts. Never used him properly in the passing game after his rookie season. He’s gonna be an absolute monster for Philly. At least we got something in return for him. Wait….. I think they did not even listen to offers prior to the trade deadline. I kinda get why, they just paid Dan Jones to be the guy and they were not about to trade the best weapon on offense... effectively pressing the reset button. Trade deadline is Oct 31...Dan Jones tears acl and is out for season Nov 6. I feel if DJ was out for the season prior to Oct 31... JS would have been more willing to get a trade done. Bad timing.
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Mar 21, 2024 2:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 21, 2024 2:47:05 GMT -5
Bad decision? Who was Schoen going win with other than Jones? You really think the Giants either last year or this incoming season was going to have a better QB? No way. Win with? The Giants went 1-5 in games stsrted by Jones. 5-6 in games he didn't. DJ was the 3rd best QB on his own team. I'd need a toilet paper roll, to make a list of QBs the Gianrs could win with, instead of DJ. Remind us again...when is SF going to offer Purdy for DJ straight up?
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 21, 2024 7:26:07 GMT -5
Facts. Never used him properly in the passing game after his rookie season. He’s gonna be an absolute monster for Philly. At least we got something in return for him. Wait….. I think they did not even listen to offers prior to the trade deadline. I kinda get why, they just paid Dan Jones to be the guy and they were not about to trade the best weapon on offense... effectively pressing the reset button. Trade deadline is Oct 31...Dan Jones tears acl and is out for season Nov 6. I feel if DJ was out for the season prior to Oct 31... JS would have been more willing to get a trade done. Bad timing.
Agreed. I wouldn't have wanted to trade him mid-season either. However, if we knew we weren't going to extend him this off-season then we should've tagged and traded him for picks. Just like Carolina did to us.
The fact we moved on from Barkley isn't necessarily an issue, but the handling of the situation and how everything went down is a huge black eye for Schoen in my opinion. From start to finish he completely fumbled the ball.
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Post by Merlin on Mar 21, 2024 7:33:47 GMT -5
He didn't have to let them go, he chose to. He doesn't value putting big money into those positions even if super talented. He extended Thomas, Dex, Jones, Traded for Waller, Signed Okreke to a 4 year deal, Runyan to a 3 year deal. Traded for and extended Burns. Used premium picks on EDGE,RT,WR,CB,C. I'll never believe that if Schoen had another $40 million, he wouldn't have resigned X and SB. While I agree that he chose Burns over those 2, he was forced to choose because of one really bad decision. He would have only done so if we were legit SB contenders and keeping them were the final icing on the cake. Barkley was drafted before Jones. Barkley was due for a contract extension before Jones. When Schoen was forfeiting Jones 5th year option. He could have already been extending Barkley. He offered Barkley deals based on his perceived value of the HB position. Barkley believed his value was more than that. Schoen extended Dex & Thomas prior to them ever even sniffing FA. Because he valued them enough to do so. He would have done so with X as well if he valued him in that same light. It would have come more so at the cost of say Slayton & Waller's salaries as cap casualties for it etc.
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Post by Merlin on Mar 21, 2024 8:23:52 GMT -5
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