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Post by piddy283 on Mar 27, 2024 12:34:07 GMT -5
It doesn't seem that Daniels is running the 40 at his pro day. That makes me wonder if he might've packed on some pounds just to make a certain number, but if 210lbs is his actual playing weight then that answers my biggest concern. I was getting worried that he was going to come in closer to 190lbs.
Still don't see him falling, but if Daniels somehow makes it to #6 I'm back on board with taking him. Dude has a chance to be a complete game changer from day-1.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Mar 27, 2024 12:59:46 GMT -5
He is still, in my opinion, the best QB in the draft. Unfortunately I don't think there is any chance he is still there at 6.
However I do feel that at least 1 player expected to go in the top 5 falls further down than expected. Just a feeling.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 27, 2024 13:06:36 GMT -5
Big for him (no pun intended)
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 27, 2024 13:08:28 GMT -5
That’s good to see. I wouldn’t mind one bit if he was a Giant. I don’t want to trade up for any QB including my first choice McCarthy. Daniels should be a star - he’s too talented not to be. Earlier this year I had Daniels as my number one QB but everything JJ has done since winning the football championship has move the needle for me but it’s close.
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Post by te88 on Mar 27, 2024 13:23:24 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is.
He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me.
Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies.
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Post by Aris on Mar 27, 2024 13:27:09 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat
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Post by TEM on Mar 27, 2024 13:29:05 GMT -5
That is why Nabers is the guy.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 27, 2024 13:36:17 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Well technically, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle but muscle is more dense and takes up less space
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Post by McCherry on Mar 27, 2024 13:42:58 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat And weight is a much different deal for QB's. Hurts is considered small and he weighs 223. Daniels is a waif.
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Post by te88 on Mar 27, 2024 15:22:30 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Donald self admitted that he played most his career at 260 pounds. And he’s 6’1” not 6’4” These are his words, not mine He said recently he got his DPOY playing between 250 and 260
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Post by vinnie on Mar 27, 2024 15:31:13 GMT -5
That is why Nabers is the guy. If we’re going off two videos on Instagram then I would say that’s why Daniels is the guy, not a dude running in a straight line catching an uncontested ball. Even when uncovered and no pressure I’m more impressed with the 2 passes.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 27, 2024 15:32:36 GMT -5
Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Donald self admitted that he played most his career at 260 pounds. And he’s 6’1” not 6’4” These are his words, not mine He said recently he got his DPOY playing between 250 and 260 This sounds like bullshit, I don’t trust the source, especially since he retired
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 27, 2024 15:41:40 GMT -5
Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Well technically, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle but muscle is more dense and takes up less space Don't know if you've seen it, but a good example of that is the image I've seen of Daniels congratulating Nabers after he ran his 40. Nabers just looks huge and well built in comparison to Daniels. In fact just looking at the image it would be hard to believe that Nabers weighed in at 199lbs, whereas Daniels came in at 210lbs:
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Post by Aris on Mar 27, 2024 15:44:35 GMT -5
Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Donald self admitted that he played most his career at 260 pounds. And he’s 6’1” not 6’4” These are his words, not mine He said recently he got his DPOY playing between 250 and 260 Scaling him at the senior bowl where he was a beast, he was 285, and considered too small. Not sure anybody ever measured his height at 6’4….I do know he jacked his physique later in his career but doubtful he was 250, no matter what mouths are suggesting…my eyes suggest otherwise. Player: Pitt defensive tackle Aaron Donald Senior Bowl weigh-in: 6'0, 288 pounds; hands – 9 7/8; arm – 31 ¾; wing – 77 3/8 Thus, not to debate the weight of Donald for 12 pages and the need to be right, let’s make him 240 and a shade under 6 feet.
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Post by Aris on Mar 27, 2024 16:17:53 GMT -5
Donald was a ripped 285.....realizing of course muscle weighs more than fat Well technically, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle but muscle is more dense and takes up less space Truth…damn nerds on this board Our whole universe was in a hot, dense state Then nearly fourteen billion years ago, expansion started The Giants losing It all started with a big Gettleman 2 pick bang
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 27, 2024 16:18:48 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. I prefer my QBs to have some weight to them to help absorb hits from players like Aaron Donald. I’m a big fan of Daniels talent but if he weighed in at 185-195lbs I’d have concerns with his durability long term. There aren’t many NFL success stories of QBs weighing less than 200lbs.
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Post by TEM on Mar 27, 2024 16:26:58 GMT -5
That is why Nabers is the guy. If we’re going off two videos on Instagram then I would say that’s why Daniels is the guy, not a dude running in a straight line catching an uncontested ball. Even when uncovered and no pressure I’m more impressed with the 2 passes. I won't even go there he will be a top 3 pick. He won't be there when we pick.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 27, 2024 19:29:33 GMT -5
Jayden Daniels is the only QB in this draft I would take. He's a fantastic player. I think he needs to end up with the right OC/HC though or he'll be trying to do too much. He's QB1 by far though.
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Post by Aris on Mar 27, 2024 23:41:14 GMT -5
Jayden Daniels is the only QB in this draft I would take. He's a fantastic player. I think he needs to end up with the right OC/HC though or he'll be trying to do too much. He's QB1 by far though. Would you trade up for him now believing he is QB1...say, at 3 or 4? Or .... you riding the wild horses called Jones and Lock into the sunrise knowing we will have a new WR not as good as Calvin Johnson?
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 28, 2024 0:26:57 GMT -5
That’s good to see. I wouldn’t mind one bit if he was a Giant. I don’t want to trade up for any QB including my first choice McCarthy. Daniels should be a star - he’s too talented not to be. Earlier this year I had Daniels as my number one QB but everything JJ has done since winning the football championship has move the needle for me but it’s close.How has a QB throwing in shorts, against no pass rush or secondary, moved the needle? Not attacking you, just trying to figure out what I'm missing. His paltry stats don't worry you?
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Post by Analyst on Mar 28, 2024 5:13:27 GMT -5
Jayden Daniels is the only QB in this draft I would take. He's a fantastic player. I think he needs to end up with the right OC/HC though or he'll be trying to do too much. He's QB1 by far though. Been saying that for a while. Although I must say if Caleb is there at pick 6 I might take a gamble. And if it doesn't work out trade him. I am really worried abou his off the field stuff but his talent is there
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 28, 2024 5:37:18 GMT -5
What’s with the elbow?
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2024 5:45:28 GMT -5
Jayden Daniels is the only QB in this draft I would take. He's a fantastic player. I think he needs to end up with the right OC/HC though or he'll be trying to do too much. He's QB1 by far though. Been saying that for a while. Although I must say if Caleb is there at pick 6 I might take a gamble. And if it doesn't work out trade him. I am really worried abou his off the field stuff but his talent is there IMO: He is the worst of this not great class. He cried on the sideline when it didn't go his way. What is he going to do when the real bullies pick on him?
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 28, 2024 8:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by Analyst on Mar 28, 2024 8:19:05 GMT -5
Been saying that for a while. Although I must say if Caleb is there at pick 6 I might take a gamble. And if it doesn't work out trade him. I am really worried abou his off the field stuff but his talent is there IMO: He is the worst of this not great class. He cried on the sideline when it didn't go his way. What is he going to do when the real bullies pick on him? As I said, off the field he worries the hell out of me. He has a ton of talents though and if he put that all away he could be a real good QB. But yeah, it appears California got to him.
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 28, 2024 8:30:29 GMT -5
Some type of sack that they say is not serious as long as it doesn't get infected.
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Post by te88 on Mar 28, 2024 8:50:37 GMT -5
IMO: He is the worst of this not great class. He cried on the sideline when it didn't go his way. What is he going to do when the real bullies pick on him? As I said, off the field he worries the hell out of me. He has a ton of talents though and if he put that all away he could be a real good QB. But yeah, it appears California got to him. He’s not draftable to me. Especially as a QB. Especially as a QB in a big market.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 28, 2024 8:55:06 GMT -5
I really don’t care about how big he is. He’s the best overall QB in this draft for me. Aaron Donald played DT at 250. No player ends up playing at what they weigh in as. Especiallly as rookies. Agree to me size wise he is fine talent wise he has every trait any coach would want I said it before Schoen watched Beane trade up twice for a traitsy Guy who might have been the most inaccurate and technique flawed QB to be drafted top 10 in the modern Era. It turned out just fine for them and him Daniels is further along he has some things to work on but if his interview convinces Schoen that he is gonna be all ball alll the time I see no issue in them running up to the podium if they get a chance to draft. For Allen it was what he did to become a top 5 passer in the League his work out side the facility if the Giants think Daniels has the talent or any of these QBs and the work ethic.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 28, 2024 9:07:38 GMT -5
That’s good to see. I wouldn’t mind one bit if he was a Giant. I don’t want to trade up for any QB including my first choice McCarthy. Daniels should be a star - he’s too talented not to be. Earlier this year I had Daniels as my number one QB but everything JJ has done since winning the football championship has move the needle for me but it’s close.How has a QB throwing in shorts, against no pass rush or secondary, moved the needle? Not attacking you, just trying to figure out what I'm missing. His paltry stats don't worry you? I did not take that as an attack but thanks for the heads up 👍 I have seen JJ throw in full pads also - 27 games. My lingering issue with him was the long ball. He wasn’t asked to do that much at Michigan. He was mostly accurate on those at the combine and deadly accurate at his pro day. Also, proved to have the second strongest arm at 61mph right behind Joe Milton at 62 mph. JJ beat out Joe Milton at Michigan which sent Milton to Tennessee. Proof arm strength isn’t everything unless your accurate. Milton has struggled with accuracy and touch JJ hasn’t. So between already being impressed watching JJ for 27 games plus his performance since the end of the season I guess that’s what moved the needle. If we get Daniels I’ll be overjoyed. I like Daniels JJ and Penix. That may not be a satisfactory answer but that’s all I got🤷♂️😀
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 28, 2024 9:08:17 GMT -5
Been saying that for a while. Although I must say if Caleb is there at pick 6 I might take a gamble. And if it doesn't work out trade him. I am really worried abou his off the field stuff but his talent is there IMO: He is the worst of this not great class. He cried on the sideline when it didn't go his way. What is he going to do when the real bullies pick on him? Williams is the best QB traits wise in this class arm talent mobility and his team mates and coaches love him even the UCLA beat guys see how his team mates gravitate to him and how dynamic his is. The Bears have done a good job with Poles building up that roster Fields had them winning at the end last year Williams will add 2 or 3 wins just on talent alone if he picks up the offense quickly.
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