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Post by piddy283 on Apr 3, 2024 21:13:02 GMT -5
Started combing through some WRs and stumbled across this skyscraper. He’s no Zay Flowers in terms of route running, but he moves pretty damn well for someone roughly 6’7/235lbs. Between his frame, his athleticism, and his wingspan he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare. Anyone interested in a Plax v2.0? www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Johnny-Wilson-WR-ArizonaState |
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 3, 2024 21:17:11 GMT -5
Don't know much about this guy but I see he is ranked around the #20 WR of the class.
Another Plaxico type receiver would be nice but Ramses Barden has similar measureables too.
Plaxico was a blue chip guy coming out of college...drafted in the top 10...doesn't seem like this guy has that but maybe he could be a good later round pickup. Can't teach size.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 3, 2024 21:22:04 GMT -5
Started combing through some WRs and stumbled across this skyscraper. He’s no Zay Flowers in terms of route running, but he moves pretty damn well for someone roughly 6’7/235lbs. Between his frame, his athleticism, and his wingspan he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare. Anyone interested in a Plax v2.0? www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Johnny-Wilson-WR-ArizonaStateI find him to be a very intriguing prospect. I think day 2 is rich but absolutely a high day 3 pick. Mostly because of how deep this position is. Based on his metrics, he's literally the 83rd most athletic WR drafted since 1987. Can't teach 6'6 231: With that said. Plax was much more polished coming out, but both have similar fluidity. This kid needs work as a raw WR. |
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Post by kingb50 on Apr 3, 2024 21:33:24 GMT -5
Maybe he can gain some weight and play TE, since Waller is on the fence
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Post by McCherry on Apr 3, 2024 22:29:40 GMT -5
More like Ramses Barden 2.0
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 3, 2024 22:33:43 GMT -5
Or like Anthony Mix
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 3, 2024 23:37:28 GMT -5
Holy shit. He also has over 35" arms. That's like Andrew Thomas. 100th percentile wingspan haha
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 3, 2024 23:43:15 GMT -5
More like Ramses Barden 2.0 Haha Cal Polys finest. The original plax "replacement" At least this kid played with decent competition. |
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Post by dreamteam2007 on Apr 4, 2024 3:11:42 GMT -5
Started combing through some WRs and stumbled across this skyscraper. He’s no Zay Flowers in terms of route running, but he moves pretty damn well for someone roughly 6’7/235lbs. Between his frame, his athleticism, and his wingspan he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare. Anyone interested in a Plax v2.0? www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Johnny-Wilson-WR-ArizonaStateI find him to be a very intriguing prospect. I think day 2 is rich but absolutely a high day 3 pick. Mostly because of how deep this position is. Based on his metrics, he's literally the 83rd most athletic WR drafted since 1987. Can't teach 6'6 231: With that said. Plax was much more polished coming out, but both have similar fluidity. This kid needs work as a raw WR. EYESSS on that RAS  |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 4, 2024 6:45:02 GMT -5
Holy shit. He also has over 35" arms. That's like Andrew Thomas. 100th percentile wingspan haha In terms of physical traits he’s a freak of nature. I don’t know anything about him being the highlight reel I watched but when I saw him move the way he does it made me want to do some more research. |
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Post by inthezone on Apr 4, 2024 6:55:15 GMT -5
Good then select a QB in the 1st and select this dude in the 2nd.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 4, 2024 7:13:40 GMT -5
Can he get off the LOS better than Barden?
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 4, 2024 7:21:30 GMT -5
More like Ramses Barden 2.0 Haha Cal Polys finest. The original plax "replacement" At least this kid played with decent competition. I still remember that one game where he stepped up and caught like 10 passes for 150 yards. This was against Carolina and Nicks was injured. I don't remeber if Cruz played that game. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 4, 2024 7:33:38 GMT -5
Haha Cal Polys finest. The original plax "replacement" At least this kid played with decent competition. I still remember that one game where he stepped up and caught like 10 passes for 150 yards. This was against Carolina and Nicks was injured. I don't remeber if Cruz played that game.
I believe that's the same game my guy Andre Brown (RB - NC State) had himself a day. If so, I was actually at the game.
Two NY Giants legends right there.
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 4, 2024 7:44:14 GMT -5
I still remember that one game where he stepped up and caught like 10 passes for 150 yards. This was against Carolina and Nicks was injured. I don't remeber if Cruz played that game.
I believe that's the same game my guy Andre Brown (RB - NC State) had himself a day. If so, I was actually at the game.
Two NY Giants legends right there.
Just looked it up. He had a 10 carries 112 yards and 2 TDs. Martellus Bennett had a good game too. www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201209200car.htm |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 4, 2024 8:53:05 GMT -5
I hope his aim is better than Plax’s.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 4, 2024 9:02:12 GMT -5
I hope his aim is better than Plax’s. really surprised they never created “A football life” featuring this f’ing idiot |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 4, 2024 9:26:40 GMT -5
Started combing through some WRs and stumbled across this skyscraper. He’s no Zay Flowers in terms of route running, but he moves pretty damn well for someone roughly 6’7/235lbs. Between his frame, his athleticism, and his wingspan he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare. Anyone interested in a Plax v2.0? www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Johnny-Wilson-WR-ArizonaStateThere's a guy like this at Fla. St. also. Big WR's with good hands. I would take a shot anywhere from the 3rd rd down if they like the guy enough. Lets face it they're terrific targets. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 4, 2024 10:52:02 GMT -5
Started combing through some WRs and stumbled across this skyscraper. He’s no Zay Flowers in terms of route running, but he moves pretty damn well for someone roughly 6’7/235lbs. Between his frame, his athleticism, and his wingspan he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare. Anyone interested in a Plax v2.0? www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Johnny-Wilson-WR-ArizonaStateThere's a guy like this at Fla. St. also. Big WR's with good hands. I would take a shot anywhere from the 3rd rd down if they like the guy enough. Lets face it they're terrific targets.
This is that guy you're referring to. I believe he started his career at Arizona St., but he played at FSU last season.
I watched another highlight reel this morning and at second glance he seems to move more like a smaller TE than he does a bigger WR.....if that makes sense. He isn't necessarily slow, but his stop and go isn't too impressive.
Interesting prospect, but he doesn't feel like a fit for what we're looking for.
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Post by lt56 on Apr 4, 2024 14:39:28 GMT -5
not sure what happened at ASU but they should've been better with Ricky Pearsall and Johnny Wilson at Receiver at Jayden Daniels at QB
anyway yeah Johnny size is intriguing for sure, hopefully he can be more Mike Evans and less like another FSU Guy Kelvin Benjamin who had a horrible work ethic and attitude "Allegedly" but Johnny looks much more Athletic than Benjamin was
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 4, 2024 18:35:02 GMT -5
Has great physical attributes
Struggles with separation, route running, and his hands are suspect
Sure, I'd give him a shot in the 3rd or 4th
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Post by 3days on Apr 4, 2024 18:43:31 GMT -5
More like Ramses Barden 2.0 Noles fan here so biased. That said, I felt like he was more important to the team than Coleman was. |
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Post by Jomo on Apr 4, 2024 19:27:45 GMT -5
Beware the "match up nightmare". That was a Jerry Reese favorite expression.
Travis Beckum, Ramses Barden and the rest. If all we can say about a guy is a lame label, I am going to pass.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 4, 2024 19:54:33 GMT -5
I'm always amazed that this sport has never found a way to make guys like this successful. There is no shortage of 6'7" guys that couldn't make the NBA, why have none of them been successful WRs?
The Plax replacement is Odunze though, let's take him at 6 and we can add this guy later on in the draft.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 4, 2024 20:00:36 GMT -5
There's a guy like this at Fla. St. also. Big WR's with good hands. I would take a shot anywhere from the 3rd rd down if they like the guy enough. Lets face it they're terrific targets.
This is that guy you're referring to. I believe he started his career at Arizona St., but he played at FSU last season.
I watched another highlight reel this morning and at second glance he seems to move more like a smaller TE than he does a bigger WR.....if that makes sense. He isn't necessarily slow, but his stop and go isn't too impressive.
Interesting prospect, but he doesn't feel like a fit for what we're looking for.
Thank You Piddy for clearing it up. I had seen highlights on him before. I just hadn't realized it was the same player. Oh yes I agree he's not the target WR we have in the 1st rd of this draft if were going WR. He would be depth, would be a great target inside the red zone. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 4, 2024 20:04:17 GMT -5
I'm always amazed that this sport has never found a way to make guys like this successful. There is no shortage of 6'7" guys that couldn't make the NBA, why have none of them been successful WRs? The Plax replacement is Odunze though, let's take him at 6 and we can add this guy later on in the draft. The only guy that comes to mind years ago and I mean decades the Eagles had a 6'7" WR named Harold Carmichael that was a good player. But he wsn't a great player. Odunze looks like a beast. He would look good in Blue. Your right Mike why don't these 6' 7" guys work out as a rule ? |
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 4, 2024 20:14:33 GMT -5
The only guy that comes to mind years ago and I mean decades the Eagles had a 6'7" WR named Harold Carmichael that was a good player. But he wsn't a great player. Odunze looks like a beast. He would look good in Blue. Your right Mike why don't these 6' 7" guys work out as a rule ? Yeah, I can't wait for this draft to be over so we can see their plan.
My only guess is that it comes down to movement. It's why a 5'10" Edelman can have a great career even though he's 9" shorter. The speed/movement is a bigger advantage than the height. Why no one can figure out how to use these beanstalks successfully is a mystery though.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 5, 2024 6:52:33 GMT -5
not needed.
Most "tall" receivers taken by teams to be a red zone threat often get very little play time to make their perceived advantage worthless.
Maybe very late round take. Would not waste even a 3rd
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 5, 2024 9:05:05 GMT -5
I hope his aim is better than Plax’s. really surprised they never created “A football life” featuring this f’ing idiot wow not sure I knew that the gun DID NOT even have a safety on it.................... why the **** would anyone not want a safety on a gun and if you do have that kind, how are you going to wear it, have it, like that on you other than in your hands where you can absolutely control not accidentally allowing it to go off smdh............ |
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Post by TEM on Apr 5, 2024 9:27:08 GMT -5
he is an early day 3 pick. Not sure he is any different than Slayton. A slower version I might add. He runs a 4-5 to 4.8. With pads in a 5+. He is not getting separation or route development being that slow. He is clumsy between the hash marks. He is a one trick pney. Outside go route (slow I might add).
Holly SH%%t
Earthquake.just hit
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