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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 7:08:57 GMT -5
Yeah, exactly, and why did that 3 year window slam shut on them? I’m sorry, maybe I missed the part where we’ll be getting Allen on a rookie contract or the Bills will be paying the remainder of his salary. Once you pay the quarterback.. You’re on the clock. Results talk.. bullshit walks. And Buffalo has been talking the ears off a deaf crowd. Fifty eight wins since the ‘19 season. Second most to only the big red machine. And nothing to show for it. When it was time to cash in.. their check bounced. Of course you missed the part about a rookie contract.. It was never said. You do realize we’re talking about if the Giants traded for Allen right now, right? So you’re saying Buffalo’s window closed due to salary cap issues with paying the QB but here you are advocating we trade for Allen who we’ll have to PAY (and give up premium draft picks) while we still have a depleted roster and no #1 WR. Buffalo’s window closed but ours would be wide open if we traded for Allen, lol, ok. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 7:25:39 GMT -5
any GM who would deal a QB like Allen should be fired. You NEVER let a QB like Allen go. You can have a fire sale but you keep the franchise QB. Sucks for Allen but that's life in the NFL. Allen, like Precott, needs to prove he can deliver the goods without having an all star cast which he has yet to do. Otherwise you’re paying for a QB that can’t carry the team at the expense of the rest the roster. Why do you think cowboys fans want to Jerrah to cut Dak loose? His contract is an albatross but 90% of their fans don’t want to extend the 2nd runner up to MVP because they won’t be able to continue to build a solid team around him unless they nail every pick in the draft. If Buffalo has a fire sale they (and Allen) will be right back to where they were pre Diggs. The Houston, SF, Buffalo )when they brought in Diggs, Von Miller, etc) Miami mold of building teams with a QB on a rookie contract is the way to go. OR…you have a loaded team already like the Rams did with Stafford or the Jets are doing with AR and go all in with an aging, veteran QB and roster. We don’t have either option right now, we’re barely treading water with an injury prone back up QB making 40 million as our starter and an anemic roster on both sides of the ball. We can’t afford to pay a premier QB right now and if we did, who the hell is going to block for him, who is he going to throw to as his #1, how will our defense improve from being one of the worst to one of the best? Not to mention all the draft picks we would lose in the trade. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 5, 2024 9:16:15 GMT -5
What washed up players are you referring to? Lets see, the ones I remember…Cole f’in Beasley, Boogie Basham, Hodgins, McCloud, and Williams. May or may not be missing a couple more. Outside of Hodgins, who isn’t washed up, you’re talking about players signed for deep depth or camp fodder. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 9:40:31 GMT -5
Lets see, the ones I remember…Cole f’in Beasley, Boogie Basham, Hodgins, McCloud, and Williams. May or may not be missing a couple more. Outside of Hodgins, who isn’t washed up, you’re talking about players signed for deep depth or camp fodder. McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. |
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Post by inthezone on Apr 5, 2024 10:12:24 GMT -5
Outside of Hodgins, who isn’t washed up, you’re talking about players signed for deep depth or camp fodder. McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. I hope these players will contribute more especially if they don't grab a top end WR or CB in the draft. I feel they both were above average when on the field. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 10:34:15 GMT -5
McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. I hope these players will contribute more especially if they don't grab a top end WR or CB in the draft. I feel they both were above average when on the field. We need about 80% of our roster to contribute more but I hear ya. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 5, 2024 10:53:00 GMT -5
Outside of Hodgins, who isn’t washed up, you’re talking about players signed for deep depth or camp fodder. McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. Like I said, “outside of Hodgins…” Ok, so there’s two signings. Out of 53 on the active roster. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 11:29:49 GMT -5
McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. Like I said, “outside of Hodgins…” Ok, so there’s two signings. Out of 53 on the active roster. I just find it hard to believe we couldn’t find anyone better outside of those 2. ****, half our starters would be depth on a lot of teams. |
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Post by SG88 on Apr 5, 2024 12:11:47 GMT -5
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 12:56:13 GMT -5
Lol, I have watched enough WWE in my life to know what that video says without even clicking on it. I’m gonna go with “No chance” for $500. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 5, 2024 12:57:56 GMT -5
McCloud played in almost every game last year and the year before. Hodgins played in 17 games past year and had 21 receptions. That’s not camp fodder and that’s more than deep depth. Like I said, “outside of Hodgins…” Ok, so there’s two signings. Out of 53 on the active roster. Add in Feliciano who was serviceable but not good enough to not let him walk. Oh, how could I forget, Tyrod as well who proved he was a better QB than our starter. Anyways, this roster is littered with former Bills players. I actually liked the Tyrod signing though, a bit pricey but he’s not a bad back up if he can stay healthy. |
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Post by infinite420 on Apr 5, 2024 13:36:28 GMT -5
seriously doubt they're trading Josh Allen, of course I would take him if they're that stupid Daniel Jones + #6 pick just might do it...... |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 5, 2024 13:58:51 GMT -5
Like I said, “outside of Hodgins…” Ok, so there’s two signings. Out of 53 on the active roster. I just find it hard to believe we couldn’t find anyone better outside of those 2. ****, half our starters would be depth on a lot of teams. True. But like Schoen said this offseason... we're no longer bargain basement shopping. |
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 5, 2024 21:42:02 GMT -5
I didn't come up with it I just posted the article I think it's stupid to. |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 5, 2024 21:44:56 GMT -5
It was your words, not mine, you used the term "washed up". The guys other than Beasley, who actually is washed up, never really had experienced much of their NFL careers. At this point they're depth players, not "washed up". And Leonard Williams was/is an exceptional player Fine. Scrubs. I’m not going to get into an internet pissing contest over “washed up” vs “scrubs” because it doesn’t change my point. Depth players? Are they even that? I guess maybe by the Giants standards. *BTW, Schoen was the assistant GM when the Bills drafted Boogie in the 2nd round. More cause for concern IMO depending on how involved Schoen was in making those decisions. Not really a "pissing contest", just pointing out the definition of "washed up". No GM drafts 53 starters, if they did they'd be 1st ballot HOFers. I'd be more concerned if we signed guys who have been around for years and never panned out, versus guys who have been in the league for a season or 2. Honestly, I think it's too early for concern. |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 5, 2024 22:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by vinnie on Apr 6, 2024 7:51:21 GMT -5
Fine. Scrubs. I’m not going to get into an internet pissing contest over “washed up” vs “scrubs” because it doesn’t change my point. Depth players? Are they even that? I guess maybe by the Giants standards. *BTW, Schoen was the assistant GM when the Bills drafted Boogie in the 2nd round. More cause for concern IMO depending on how involved Schoen was in making those decisions. Not really a "pissing contest", just pointing out the definition of "washed up". No GM drafts 53 starters, if they did they'd be 1st ballot HOFers. I'd be more concerned if we signed guys who have been around for years and never panned out, versus guys who have been in the league for a season or 2. Honestly, I think it's too early for concern. Yeah, I agree with you there. Good points. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 6, 2024 8:08:18 GMT -5
It makes sense. Allen is expensive and lost his two WRs. You trade for our 6th pick and can get a QB in the deepest QB class ever, resetting that rookie salary window in the process. Com’on lol. |
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 6, 2024 18:45:33 GMT -5
It makes sense. Allen is expensive and lost his two WRs. You trade for our 6th pick and can get a QB in the deepest QB class ever, resetting that rookie salary window in the process. Com’on lol.  |
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Post by bigblueones on Apr 8, 2024 14:58:29 GMT -5
ALL THIS PROVES IS THAT ANY IDIOT CAN BE A WRITER COVERING NFL TEAMS
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