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Post by Analyst on Apr 17, 2024 9:36:42 GMT -5
Bill Belichick eyes Giants and their closest rivals for next coaching job with future uncertainThere will be a Bill Belichick-sized shadow over the NFC East this upcoming season. After being shut out from a coaching gig this offseason after parting ways with the Patriots, Belichick has told “confidants” he has interest in potentially leading the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, according to ESPN. Belichick reportedly has told those close to him he expects to land at least one interview during the next coaching hire cycle. Let’s start with the Giants, facing a pivotal Year 3 in the Brian Daboll/Joe Schoen regime. The Giants made the playoffs during the 2022 season but suffered through a disappointing 2023 that lost some of the goodwill accumulated during the previous season. They are preparing for a potentially franchise-altering pick in this year’s draft in which they must decide whether to select a quarterback. Belichick has previously shared his affection for the Giants after serving as a defensive coordinator for two of their Super Bowl-winning teams.
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Post by southerner on Apr 17, 2024 9:40:44 GMT -5
Please….Belichek WAS good, but he is horrible in drafts, his offenses always blow……unless Tom Brady is his QB, and he is 72 years old. I don’t see ANY NFL team hiring him as HC….maybe Defensive Coordinator, but he wants to run the whole show. Someone needs to tell Bill it is over…..move on to something else.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 17, 2024 9:41:49 GMT -5
Please….Belichek WAS good, but he is horrible in drafts, his offenses always blow……unless Tom Brady is his QB, and he is 72 years old. I don’t see ANY NFL team hiring him as HC….maybe Defensive Coordinator, but he wants to run the whole show. Someone needs to tell Bill it is over…..move on to something else. lol
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 17, 2024 9:57:39 GMT -5
So the only thing out of BB’s mouth (kind of) is “I expect to land an interview next off season.”
From that comes “BB is eyeing Giants, Cowboys and Eagles..”
Ok
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 17, 2024 10:15:04 GMT -5
Bill Belichick eyes Giants and their closest rivals for next coaching job with future uncertainThere will be a Bill Belichick-sized shadow over the NFC East this upcoming season. After being shut out from a coaching gig this offseason after parting ways with the Patriots, Belichick has told “confidants” he has interest in potentially leading the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, according to ESPN. Belichick reportedly has told those close to him he expects to land at least one interview during the next coaching hire cycle. Let’s start with the Giants, facing a pivotal Year 3 in the Brian Daboll/Joe Schoen regime. The Giants made the playoffs during the 2022 season but suffered through a disappointing 2023 that lost some of the goodwill accumulated during the previous season. They are preparing for a potentially franchise-altering pick in this year’s draft in which they must decide whether to select a quarterback. Belichick has previously shared his affection for the Giants after serving as a defensive coordinator for two of their Super Bowl-winning teams. i can see that. We'll just need a good GM to go with him if that's the case but I'm rooting for Dabs and Schoen and I believe they won't be let go after this year anyway and will get another. Depending on how the qb situation plays out I believe they'll continue till they get their own qb if need be
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Post by Analyst on Apr 17, 2024 10:24:47 GMT -5
I think Id only want him as a DC next year. Nothing more. And that all depends on what 2024 looks like.
His time has come and gone, like when Coughlins did here although we kept him a few years too long too.
One thing I do think is true though, Dabs is on the hot seat. Another 4-5-6 win season, and he could be gone.
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Post by vinnie on Apr 17, 2024 10:42:16 GMT -5
Yeah…no thanks, Bill is a great defensive mind but I think he’s been exposed without Brady. He wants too much control and I think his age is something to be concerned about. Maybe, maaaaybe, if we already had a solid roster and QB in place then he would be a decent hire but I still think the younger, more innovative coaches would be better.
This does have cowgirls stank written all over it though. They have a decent roster, it’s probably lame duck year for MM and Jerrah would hire BB just for all the attention and ratings it would bring to the cowboys, just like he did with Parcells. The only caveat is both of them would have to set aside their egos to even have a chance at making it work. Jerry has recently been on record saying he has a lot of respect for BB and thinks highly of him for whatever that’s worth.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 17, 2024 10:47:46 GMT -5
nah... if this gets any traction next season it means Dabs has failed.
Rather have Dabs have success and BB retires or goes elsewhere.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 17, 2024 10:57:33 GMT -5
He better be patient because Dabs & Schoen are gonna be here for a while.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 17, 2024 11:17:29 GMT -5
Yeah…no thanks, Bill is a great defensive mind but I think he’s been exposed without Brady. He wants too much control and I think his age is something to be concerned about. Maybe, maaaaybe, if we already had a solid roster and QB in place then he would be a decent hire but I still think the younger, more innovative coaches would be better. This does have cowgirls stank written all over it though. They have a decent roster, it’s probably lame duck year for MM and Jerrah would hire BB just for all the attention and ratings it would bring to the cowboys, just like he did with Parcells. The only caveat is both of them would have to set aside their egos to even have a chance at making it work. Jerry has recently been on record saying he has a lot of respect for BB and thinks highly of him for whatever that’s worth. I think that's an overreaction to the immediate ending seasons post Brady in New England. Any team losing a Tom Brady at QB is going to fall off. It hit the reset button really. Add that to the fact as I said, BB is well past his prime as a HC too. I never really thought he was a good GM, so he missed on replacing TB, but in the times when Tom Brady wasn't the QB prior to him leaving, the Patriots were still a great team. I think they were 14-6 without Brady while he was still on the roster including an 11-5 season. He has to get credit there. He took average players and drained every ounce of talent from them. BB is/was a coaching GENIUS. He took advantage of everything he could. He flipped over every rock and rolled every stone to uncover new tactics to use during the season, and adjusted very quickly, creating a domino effect for other coaches to try to do the same things but never succeeding. There is no doubt TB carried that team as a player, but without BB, TB wouldn't have even made it in the NFL in my opinion. Brady didn't transform into TB12 until 4-5 years after he was drafted. Then, he certainly carried the team, and was paired up with the GOAT HC.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 11:20:04 GMT -5
I think Id only want him as a DC next year. Nothing more. And that all depends on what 2024 looks like. His time has come and gone, like when Coughlins did here although we kept him a few years too long too. One thing I do think is true though, Dabs is on the hot seat. Another 4-5-6 win season, and he could be gone. There is no chance he'd agree to that. But unless he went to a win now team, I don't see Belichick ever being a successful head coach again in the NFL.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 17, 2024 11:29:14 GMT -5
I think Id only want him as a DC next year. Nothing more. And that all depends on what 2024 looks like. His time has come and gone, like when Coughlins did here although we kept him a few years too long too. One thing I do think is true though, Dabs is on the hot seat. Another 4-5-6 win season, and he could be gone. There is no chance he'd agree to that. But unless he went to a win now team, I don't see Belichick ever being a successful head coach again in the NFL. Kinda like what Tom Brady did. Tampa was already loaded and just needed a QB, after getting Jameis Winston to put up record numbers. It would be like Belichick going to the Ravens or something.
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Post by te88 on Apr 17, 2024 11:35:24 GMT -5
I think it’s most likely he goes to Dallas. And that is a team he could do VERY well with.
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Post by vinnie on Apr 17, 2024 11:48:34 GMT -5
Yeah…no thanks, Bill is a great defensive mind but I think he’s been exposed without Brady. He wants too much control and I think his age is something to be concerned about. Maybe, maaaaybe, if we already had a solid roster and QB in place then he would be a decent hire but I still think the younger, more innovative coaches would be better. This does have cowgirls stank written all over it though. They have a decent roster, it’s probably lame duck year for MM and Jerrah would hire BB just for all the attention and ratings it would bring to the cowboys, just like he did with Parcells. The only caveat is both of them would have to set aside their egos to even have a chance at making it work. Jerry has recently been on record saying he has a lot of respect for BB and thinks highly of him for whatever that’s worth. I think that's an overreaction to the immediate ending seasons post Brady in New England. Any team losing a Tom Brady at QB is going to fall off. It hit the reset button really. Add that to the fact as I said, BB is well past his prime as a HC too. I never really thought he was a good GM, so he missed on replacing TB, but in the times when Tom Brady wasn't the QB prior to him leaving, the Patriots were still a great team. I think they were 14-6 without Brady while he was still on the roster including an 11-5 season. He has to get credit there. He took average players and drained every ounce of talent from them. BB is/was a coaching GENIUS. He took advantage of everything he could. He flipped over every rock and rolled every stone to uncover new tactics to use during the season, and adjusted very quickly, creating a domino effect for other coaches to try to do the same things but never succeeding. There is no doubt TB carried that team as a player, but without BB, TB wouldn't have even made it in the NFL in my opinion. Brady didn't transform into TB12 until 4-5 years after he was drafted. Then, he certainly carried the team, and was paired up with the GOAT HC. Yeah, you’re right, it was quite a bit of an overreaction…agree with everything you said.
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 17, 2024 12:18:11 GMT -5
Yeah…no thanks, Bill is a great defensive mind but I think he’s been exposed without Brady. He wants too much control and I think his age is something to be concerned about. Maybe, maaaaybe, if we already had a solid roster and QB in place then he would be a decent hire but I still think the younger, more innovative coaches would be better. This does have cowgirls stank written all over it though. They have a decent roster, it’s probably lame duck year for MM and Jerrah would hire BB just for all the attention and ratings it would bring to the cowboys, just like he did with Parcells. The only caveat is both of them would have to set aside their egos to even have a chance at making it work. Jerry has recently been on record saying he has a lot of respect for BB and thinks highly of him for whatever that’s worth. I think that's an overreaction to the immediate ending seasons post Brady in New England. Any team losing a Tom Brady at QB is going to fall off. It hit the reset button really. Add that to the fact as I said, BB is well past his prime as a HC too. I never really thought he was a good GM, so he missed on replacing TB, but in the times when Tom Brady wasn't the QB prior to him leaving, the Patriots were still a great team. I think they were 14-6 without Brady while he was still on the roster including an 11-5 season. He has to get credit there. He took average players and drained every ounce of talent from them. BB is/was a coaching GENIUS. He took advantage of everything he could. He flipped over every rock and rolled every stone to uncover new tactics to use during the season, and adjusted very quickly, creating a domino effect for other coaches to try to do the same things but never succeeding. There is no doubt TB carried that team as a player, but without BB, TB wouldn't have even made it in the NFL in my opinion. Brady didn't transform into TB12 until 4-5 years after he was drafted. Then, he certainly carried the team, and was paired up with the GOAT HC. Tampa Bay rebounded quickly after Brady left. Don't know if they can keep it up but they didn't fall off.
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Post by ratbastich on Apr 17, 2024 12:21:44 GMT -5
I would like to win, but I also want long-term success. How much longer would he coach? We need someone who is going to be around a long time, not someone who may be after a benchmark and then possibly leave.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 17, 2024 12:41:58 GMT -5
Time didn’t pass him by.. Not having a quarterback did him in. From the days of leather helmets.. and sixty minute men. When you have less than nothing at the helm, you better bring with you a legendary defense or a ground and pound running game to back you up. Besides wins, Bill owns every record imaginable in the sport. When you have more rings than your local jewelers.. You don’t have to move for anyone.
As to he can’t win without Tom Brady.. He won a playoff game with Vinny ******* Testaverde.. It took the armpit of the league, Cleveland twenty six years to achieve that again. The man has forgotten more about this league than all the coaches combined. Over a half a century of X’s and O’s under his belt.
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Post by mendy on Apr 17, 2024 12:45:09 GMT -5
Bill Belichick eyes Giants and their closest rivals for next coaching job with future uncertainThere will be a Bill Belichick-sized shadow over the NFC East this upcoming season. After being shut out from a coaching gig this offseason after parting ways with the Patriots, Belichick has told “confidants” he has interest in potentially leading the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, according to ESPN. Belichick reportedly has told those close to him he expects to land at least one interview during the next coaching hire cycle. Let’s start with the Giants, facing a pivotal Year 3 in the Brian Daboll/Joe Schoen regime. The Giants made the playoffs during the 2022 season but suffered through a disappointing 2023 that lost some of the goodwill accumulated during the previous season. They are preparing for a potentially franchise-altering pick in this year’s draft in which they must decide whether to select a quarterback. Belichick has previously shared his affection for the Giants after serving as a defensive coordinator for two of their Super Bowl-winning teams. The writer is giving his opinion. Belichick has said nothing . This is the type of click bait bull shitt that fans keep perpetuating and they look stupid for it.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 12:45:57 GMT -5
There is no chance he'd agree to that. But unless he went to a win now team, I don't see Belichick ever being a successful head coach again in the NFL. Kinda like what Tom Brady did. Tampa was already loaded and just needed a QB, after getting Jameis Winston to put up record numbers. It would be like Belichick going to the Ravens or something. He'll be 73 before he gets a chance to coach again. If he did return, he'd have a few years tops to make it happen. The Giants connection makes no sense.
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Post by mendy on Apr 17, 2024 12:48:09 GMT -5
Kinda like what Tom Brady did. Tampa was already loaded and just needed a QB, after getting Jameis Winston to put up record numbers. It would be like Belichick going to the Ravens or something. He'll be 73 before he gets a chance to coach again. If he did return, he'd have a few years tops to make it happen. The Giants connection makes no sense. That's becuase it's not true, it's made up BS by the writer . Then fans with issues about the Giants run with it.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 12:51:56 GMT -5
He'll be 73 before he gets a chance to coach again. If he did return, he'd have a few years tops to make it happen. The Giants connection makes no sense. That's becuase it's not true, it's made up BS by the writer . Then fans with issues about the Giants run with it. The writer clearly said this is coming from sources. Whether they're reliable or not, is another conversation. It is your opinion he is making it up.
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Post by mendy on Apr 17, 2024 13:06:34 GMT -5
That's becuase it's not true, it's made up BS by the writer . Then fans with issues about the Giants run with it. The writer clearly said this is coming from sources. Whether they're reliable or not, is another conversation. It is your opinion he is making it up. No it's not it's fact. What sources, sure as hell isn't coming from Belichick. Not a fact till there is proof.
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Post by mendy on Apr 17, 2024 13:12:07 GMT -5
Q: How do you spin a column out of this air?
A: Just make $#!+ up.
A lot of "Belichick has said ..."; "Belichick has told confidants ... "; "Belichick reportedly ... " "People close to Belichick say ...
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 17, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -5
Dude is 70+
and I do not trust him as a GM.... None of that total control crap, and he's proven that he needs a real QB...but then again, his NE teams looked good under a bunch of one hot wonder bums like matt Casell....then the wheels fell off.
TC gave us his best years in his 70's......so we shall see.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 17, 2024 14:15:15 GMT -5
The writer clearly said this is coming from sources. Whether they're reliable or not, is another conversation. It is your opinion he is making it up. No it's not it's fact. What sources, sure as hell isn't coming from Belichick. Not a fact till there is proof. maybe some pesto or a nice marinara...
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 17, 2024 14:30:24 GMT -5
Over the last 5 years:
1. His roster decisions seem to struggle 2. He hasn’t been able to re-create the performance he’s famous for 3. He cannot develop coaching talent. 4. He cannot improve offensive performance 5. I don’t know if he can connect with modern NFL player culture 6. I don’t know how he would work with a GM that disagrees with him
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 17, 2024 14:51:17 GMT -5
Dude is 70+ and I do not trust him as a GM.... None of that total control crap, and he's proven that he needs a real QB...but then again, his NE teams looked good under a bunch of one hot wonder bums like matt Casell....then the wheels fell off. TC gave us his best years in his 70's......so we shall see. He was winning with Garropolo. I too think that ship has sailed while his drafts have been so/so but i’m not buying into this Brady take. Bill did design the offense, developed Brady, outcoached the entire league for well over a decade and had a culture of pretty divaless players.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 15:19:21 GMT -5
The writer clearly said this is coming from sources. Whether they're reliable or not, is another conversation. It is your opinion he is making it up. No it's not it's fact. What sources, sure as hell isn't coming from Belichick. Not a fact till there is proof. Thanks for your opinion, but I'll trust a reporter I never heard of instead.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 17, 2024 18:22:06 GMT -5
Over the last 5 years: 1. His roster decisions seem to struggle 2. He hasn’t been able to re-create the performance he’s famous for 3. He cannot develop coaching talent. 4. He cannot improve offensive performance 5. I don’t know if he can connect with modern NFL player culture 6. I don’t know how he would work with a GM that disagrees with him His time has come and gone. His buddy Nick Saban also realized this. That's why I said he is now a coordinator at best. Belichick will always be a huge branch of the Bill Parcells tree though. He is always welcome back to Big Blue IMO, just not as the HC or GM.
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Post by Dogecoin on Apr 17, 2024 20:20:35 GMT -5
If they have a year like last quite possible Daboll is done. To try and cover up another bad coaching hire it's quite possible they hire Bellichick to add some headline appeal and appease some fans.
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