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Post by robl on Apr 18, 2024 11:57:26 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6.
Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Apr 18, 2024 12:59:00 GMT -5
If he can get a haul I'd trade back; we need a lot.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2024 13:02:14 GMT -5
That'd be great. If they're relegated to the secondary QB market, trading down would be ideal. You get your QB, still get a good WR. With an extra second, they could go defense the rest of the way and address all their remaining needs. DT, S, CB, ILB.
This would be amazing, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 18, 2024 13:04:26 GMT -5
Hard to say in a vacuum ... so much depends on how the draft unfolds
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Post by Aris on Apr 18, 2024 13:05:44 GMT -5
That'd be great. If they're relegated to the secondary QB market, trading down would be ideal. You get your QB, still get a good WR. With an extra second, they could go defense the rest of the way and address all their remaining needs. DT, S, CB, ILB. This would be amazing, I'll believe it when I see it. I sense the OL position bores you
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Post by imgrate on Apr 18, 2024 13:05:49 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6. Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h Man, stuff like this is really pushing me towards thinking they really want MHJ or Nabers and are messaging to the league that if you want the 4th best QB, then you better trade up to 4 or 5…thus ensuring us one of those wideouts
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2024 13:10:23 GMT -5
That'd be great. If they're relegated to the secondary QB market, trading down would be ideal. You get your QB, still get a good WR. With an extra second, they could go defense the rest of the way and address all their remaining needs. DT, S, CB, ILB. This would be amazing, I'll believe it when I see it. I sense the OL position bores you As I said yesterday, it's possible the Giants take an offensive linemen later in the draft. I don't see it as a priority above other positions.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 18, 2024 13:14:55 GMT -5
all depends on which player or position they are targeting,
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Apr 18, 2024 13:27:47 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6. Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h If they're really ready, and willing to run it back with Daniel Jones and not trade up for a QB Then they need to trade back. Plain and Simple. Hold the pick hostage as best you can and get as many extra picks as you can out of it.
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Post by Aris on Apr 18, 2024 13:37:11 GMT -5
I sense the OL position bores you As I said yesterday, it's possible the Giants take an offensive linemen later in the draft. I don't see it as a priority above other positions. In the best OT class in recent memory, with a trade back and extra picks coming our way....with the only solid position being LT and some average short term contract FA "bodies", 2 and 1 year outs.... and thus far 2 fails at RT and center....we would pass on some guaranteed push and pull on the LOS? What better way to make Daniel Jones, or somebody better.... more effective and get us to the superbowl next year than having him healthy and upright...now able to see all those open receivers. I would have to hope we are at least considering immediate impact guys like Taliese Fuaga, Troy Fautanu, Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton as well as the deep wide receiver talent that will be there well into the 3rd round.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 18, 2024 13:46:58 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6. Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h imagine if the Giants were picking 3rd or 4th where they belong
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 18, 2024 13:48:45 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6. Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h Man, stuff like this is really pushing me towards thinking they really want MHJ or Nabers and are messaging to the league that if you want the 4th best QB, then you better trade up to 4 or 5…thus ensuring us one of those wideouts It’s telling me the neither the Cards or Chargers want to move back and miss out on the better wide receivers.
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Post by Aris on Apr 18, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -5
Man, stuff like this is really pushing me towards thinking they really want MHJ or Nabers and are messaging to the league that if you want the 4th best QB, then you better trade up to 4 or 5…thus ensuring us one of those wideouts It’s telling me the neither the Cards or Chargers want to move back and miss out on the better wide receivers. Yep…probably approached by the Vikings and others and lines in the sand are drawn. That is why it seems a safe trade for either one to do with the 6 pick….they get their superstar X wide out, and we get the QB
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2024 14:05:36 GMT -5
As I said yesterday, it's possible the Giants take an offensive linemen later in the draft. I don't see it as a priority above other positions. In the best OT class in recent memory, with a trade back and extra picks coming our way....with the only solid position being LT and some average short term contract FA "bodies", 2 and 1 year outs.... and thus far 2 fails at RT and center....we would pass on some guaranteed push and pull on the LOS? What better way to make Daniel Jones, or somebody better.... more effective and get us to the superbowl next year than having him healthy and upright...now able to see all those open receivers. I would have to hope we are at least considering immediate impact guys like Taliese Fuaga, Troy Fautanu, Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton as well as the deep wide receiver talent that will be there well into the 3rd round. I agree completely. In a trade back say we get a #2 and say a late 3rd or early 4th, whatever... Yes grab an OT. We still need a true swing to replace Phillips. Elumunor is not here for the long term... And who knows what Neal's future is? But I actually think the bigger immediate need is at Guard. I'm thinking in our current draft makeup but a trade back changes the thinking.
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Post by glorydays on Apr 18, 2024 14:07:53 GMT -5
I really hope that is true and they'd better do it. We have seven holes to fill ---> More high picks > one slightly higher pick
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 18, 2024 14:24:04 GMT -5
Hard to say in a vacuum ... so much depends on how the draft unfolds I’ve said it so much it’s probably annoying. It would be unusual for all 4 top QBs and all 3 top WRs to be considered either/or picks at 6. There could be players available at 6 that we don’t want to spend the pick on. We could also get a call from more than 1 desperate team bidding against each other for the pick. You can’t know what you’re doing until you see the board at 6. Seems like a painfully obvious point, but if I had a nickle for every “we’ll take a QB or WR at 6” post I’ve read, as if who’s available doesn’t matter at all, I’d have around $10.
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Post by hadenough on Apr 18, 2024 14:29:06 GMT -5
More picks please
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 18, 2024 14:38:36 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan: The #Giants have received a lot of calls about moving back in the draft, per GM Joe Schoen. He has found it somewhat surprising the amount of interest there has been in pick 6. Depending on the return I’d trade down. Love to wait on this till draft day to see what’s there at 6.h If they're really ready, and willing to run it back with Daniel Jones and not trade up for a QB Then they need to trade back. Plain and Simple. Hold the pick hostage as best you can and get as many extra picks as you can out of it. or take a WR at 6 whom I think any of the top 3 we'll greatly benefit from.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 18, 2024 14:38:38 GMT -5
Besides one of the big-3 falling in our laps, this would be the ideal scenario. Trade back with the Raiders or Saints, and stack a couple day-2 picks this year and maybe a day-1 or day-2 pick next year.
I did this in one of those mock draft simulators the other day and was happy with the way the board fell. At #13 I completely pivoted off the conversations we've had all off-season and grabbed Quinyon Mitchell (CB - Tulane) to be our CB1a/b and play opposite Banks. With the additional picks, I was then able to address QB, OG, WR, DT, and Edge by round 4.
Again, as long as all 3 of the top QBs are gone, I think this is the way to go. Additional picks in this years draft are gold.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 18, 2024 14:41:58 GMT -5
Hard to say in a vacuum ... so much depends on how the draft unfolds I’ve said it so much it’s probably annoying. It would be unusual for all 4 top QBs and all 3 top WRs to be considered either/or picks at 6. There could be players available at 6 that we don’t want to spend the pick on. We could also get a call from more than 1 desperate team bidding against each other for the pick. You can’t know what you’re doing until you see the board at 6. Seems like a painfully obvious point, but if I had a nickle for every “we’ll take a QB or WR at 6” post I’ve read, as if who’s available doesn’t matter at all, I’d have around $10. or see the board at or after 4 lol....
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 18, 2024 15:04:30 GMT -5
I’ve said it so much it’s probably annoying. It would be unusual for all 4 top QBs and all 3 top WRs to be considered either/or picks at 6. There could be players available at 6 that we don’t want to spend the pick on. We could also get a call from more than 1 desperate team bidding against each other for the pick. You can’t know what you’re doing until you see the board at 6. Seems like a painfully obvious point, but if I had a nickle for every “we’ll take a QB or WR at 6” post I’ve read, as if who’s available doesn’t matter at all, I’d have around $10. or see the board at or after 4 lol.... Exactly. They’re not generic pieces that we’re fine with getting any one of them. Who’s on the board is going to matter. Same thing with trading down. We may pick at 6 instead of trading down if 4 QBs are off the board simply because it changes the market value of that pick. We’ve never considered that we may love 3 or 4 WRs expected to go in the 2nd, does that mean we trade down to late in the 1st and grab a 2nd tier QB, then grab a WR in the 2nd? Who knows?
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2024 15:17:42 GMT -5
Hard to say in a vacuum ... so much depends on how the draft unfolds I’ve said it so much it’s probably annoying. It would be unusual for all 4 top QBs and all 3 top WRs to be considered either/or picks at 6. There could be players available at 6 that we don’t want to spend the pick on. We could also get a call from more than 1 desperate team bidding against each other for the pick. You can’t know what you’re doing until you see the board at 6. Seems like a painfully obvious point, but if I had a nickle for every “we’ll take a QB or WR at 6” post I’ve read, as if who’s available doesn’t matter at all, I’d have around $10. It's unusual, but it's also a unique draft. How often do we see the top 6 or 7 players focused towards only 2 positions? Alt is the only other player outside of QB/WR I've seen mocked in the top 6. I think for us it's absolutely QB, WR or trade out. I haven't even heard any speculation about another possible scenario.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 18, 2024 15:20:52 GMT -5
Just sharing
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Post by Analyst on Apr 18, 2024 15:22:06 GMT -5
Probably because a lot of teams who dont need QBs could see 4 QBs taken in the first 5 picks. Which leaves them elite top of the draft type talent at pick 6.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 18, 2024 15:23:10 GMT -5
Throw in this years 2nd and Im listening for sure.
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Post by Nite on Apr 18, 2024 15:58:47 GMT -5
Well...
If this scenario includes a pretzel and a bag of donuts then I'm in....
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Post by Merlin on Apr 18, 2024 16:00:22 GMT -5
That'd be great. If they're relegated to the secondary QB market, trading down would be ideal. You get your QB, still get a good WR. With an extra second, they could go defense the rest of the way and address all their remaining needs. DT, S, CB, ILB. This would be amazing, I'll believe it when I see it. IMO we got to go all offense. We got to put what ever QB we have this coming season or in the foreseeable future in the best possible position. In order to change the same outcomes that we have had over the past decade. Disclaimer: Should go without saying but this does not mean bypassing superior talent just to draft offensive players. This is based off grades being similar.
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Post by Nite on Apr 18, 2024 16:05:18 GMT -5
If a desperado team wants to throw pics our way and not move down too far, yeah why not. Notice I said pics 1 or 2 1sts a 2nd and 3rd and we are gravy. Get more OL help (Its like potato chips you can never have enough), WR and a QB in the first two rounds...
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2024 16:06:35 GMT -5
That'd be great. If they're relegated to the secondary QB market, trading down would be ideal. You get your QB, still get a good WR. With an extra second, they could go defense the rest of the way and address all their remaining needs. DT, S, CB, ILB. This would be amazing, I'll believe it when I see it. I sense the OL position bores you A trade back would line up nicely if they go OL.
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Post by mendy on Apr 18, 2024 16:12:43 GMT -5
Well... If this scenario includes a pretzel and a bag of donuts then I'm in.... What no Pepsi?
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