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Post by nyg2 on Apr 29, 2024 12:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 29, 2024 12:55:03 GMT -5
That would have been even more controversial than a QB, if true. I was curious to see if a move like that solved one issue, once and for all.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 12:56:58 GMT -5
went to the NFL Network by pick 3. Muting his lectures got old fast. Not listening to this tweet either
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Post by inthezone on Apr 29, 2024 13:08:06 GMT -5
I was hoping the same.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 13:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by Merlin on Apr 29, 2024 13:20:37 GMT -5
If they evaluated him as a plug and play pro bowl caliber RT for the next decade then it would make sense.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 29, 2024 13:25:06 GMT -5
This board was more accurate with their predictions than the NFL Insiders and talking heads that are paid to analyze football on TV.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 29, 2024 13:28:26 GMT -5
I don't think Schefter is right. If the Giants felt it was that big of a need they would've addressed it at some point in the draft.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 13:38:45 GMT -5
"Daniel Jones - trust us, we actually hate Drake Maye"
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 13:40:12 GMT -5
This board was more accurate with their predictions than the NFL Insiders and talking heads that are paid to analyze football on TV. Maybe you can hop into my thread and actually put numerical value to "predictions"..for your name sake. What's your new name going to be for the 2025-2026 season?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 15:13:09 GMT -5
If they evaluated him as a plug and play pro bowl caliber RT for the next decade then it would make sense. Still waiting for Evan Neal evaluation to pan out, unless the evaluation on this guy was done by a different crew.
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Post by vinnie on Apr 29, 2024 15:17:17 GMT -5
If they evaluated him as a plug and play pro bowl caliber RT for the next decade then it would make sense. Still waiting for Evan Neal evaluation to pan out, unless the evaluation on this guy was done by a different crew. But he was a good pick because all these analysts we mock said he was and had him highly graded!
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Post by TEM on Apr 29, 2024 15:18:07 GMT -5
I bet the FO wished Devon Witherspoon fell to them in last year draft too. BOO HOO he didn't . That is what the draft board is for ......."Contingencies"
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 15:25:08 GMT -5
I’m sure the Giants had a LT Alt at the top of their list to play RT, move Neal inside and send two of their free agent signings to the bench.
The object to play as many people out of position as possible.
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 29, 2024 15:35:42 GMT -5
I bet the FO wished Devon Witherspoon fell to them in last year draft too. BOO HOO he didn't . That is what the draft board is for ......."Contingencies" I was hoping the Power Ball jackpot would fall to me.
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Post by lt56 on Apr 29, 2024 15:54:59 GMT -5
Adam said "Thats My Belief" so he doesn't know for sure but maybe
I would believe this more if they took a Lineman in the 2nd or 3rd round but they did not take any Lineman not even Cooper Beebe or Christian Haynes in the 3rd Round or even his Teammate Blake Fisher in the 2nd Round who the Texans Drafted
I do like Joe Alt a lot but I'm a very Bias ND Fan
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Post by hadenough on Apr 29, 2024 15:57:22 GMT -5
I actually can’t believe they didn’t select an olineman.
They are banking on el cheapo free agent lineman to make a poor line good.
They have one good LT. The rest are prayers.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 29, 2024 16:13:58 GMT -5
“That’s my belief” isn’t usually how Schefter discusses these issues.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 29, 2024 17:06:45 GMT -5
If they evaluated him as a plug and play pro bowl caliber RT for the next decade then it would make sense. Still waiting for Evan Neal evaluation to pan out, unless the evaluation on this guy was done by a different crew. According to Shefty they weren't. Which is what we are discussing. When you have gone like 10 plus years with poor Oline play, derailing multiple seasons, from your 2 time SB winning QB and then your top 6 draft pick. AND are just coming off a 85 sack season. Everything should be on the table for how the bleeding can stop and not just for one season.
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Post by SG88 on Apr 29, 2024 17:34:07 GMT -5
Adam Schefter is good at getting information obviously. However, his opinions are no better than those from your everyday message board poster.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 29, 2024 17:37:45 GMT -5
I’m sure the Giants had a LT Alt at the top of their list to play RT, move Neal inside and send two of their free agent signings to the bench. The object to play as many people out of position as possible. Interesting enough Harbaugh was willing to do just this. Must be confident he can play RT. Will be able to see if he was accurate. But taking a Tackle within the top 5 or 6 like Chargers or Giants would mean that expectations aren't that he is just a guy that could potentially start. Its that he should be pro bowl calibre or close to it. A talent that doesn't come along often. For us, Only one player would be benched. Neal & Eluemunor would be the position battle for starting RG. Eluemunor has already played RG in the NFL before. If Neal beat him out thus proving he can play RG. Eluemunor would provide an expensive yet experienced versatile backup for G & T. Neal beating him out would also mean his development increased drastically. Equates to higher odds of a quality Oline. That is worth the cost for a season especially given our history. If Eluemunor & Alt beat out Neal for RG & RT spots. This also equates to higher odds of a quality Oline. Neal either would be less damaging or quality as a backup or is faded out which would be a big difference from if he started but was still struggling.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 18:03:13 GMT -5
Still waiting for Evan Neal evaluation to pan out, unless the evaluation on this guy was done by a different crew. According to Shefty they weren't. Which is what we are discussing. When you have gone like 10 plus years with poor Oline play, derailing multiple seasons, from your 2 time SB winning QB and then your top 6 draft pick. AND are just coming off a 85 sack season. Everything should be on the table for how the bleeding can stop and not just for one season. I hope he isn't a missed pick then.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 29, 2024 18:03:46 GMT -5
****, journalism is just dead.
Yeah OL was such a high priority that we didn't address it at all. For that matter we were hoping JJ McCarthy would fall to us. Well that's what this tweet would have said if JJ went before us.
"No one knows what we're going to do." - Joe Schoen.
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Post by mendy on Apr 29, 2024 18:26:10 GMT -5
At no point did he ever say this leading up to the draft of the night of the draft. I would not have minded it at all but to say it now is BS. It's a shot at Nebers .
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Post by Merlin on Apr 29, 2024 18:50:56 GMT -5
****, journalism is just dead. Yeah OL was such a high priority that we didn't address it at all. For that matter we were hoping JJ McCarthy would fall to us. Well that's what this tweet would have said if JJ went before us. "No one knows what we're going to do." - Joe Schoen. To be fair, it would be more so that they were that high on Alt and his talent/impact than just looking to draft a Lineman to compete.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 29, 2024 19:15:37 GMT -5
****, journalism is just dead. Yeah OL was such a high priority that we didn't address it at all. For that matter we were hoping JJ McCarthy would fall to us. Well that's what this tweet would have said if JJ went before us. "No one knows what we're going to do." - Joe Schoen. To be fair, it would be more so that they were that high on Alt and his talent/impact than just looking to draft a Lineman to compete. And that's a fair discussion to have. When you're a journalist and you state it as fact (even following it up with that's my belief) it's irresponsible.
For the record I don't think OT was in play for us in round 1. I think it was WR all the way.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 29, 2024 19:48:15 GMT -5
To be fair, it would be more so that they were that high on Alt and his talent/impact than just looking to draft a Lineman to compete. And that's a fair discussion to have. When you're a journalist and you state it as fact (even following it up with that's my belief) it's irresponsible.
For the record I don't think OT was in play for us in round 1. I think it was WR all the way.
Shefty isn't is usually the guy that breaks the breaking news. When its coming from Shefty you know its going down. Just like how he reported that the Falcons were gonna draft Penix as soon as they were on the clock. Among thousands of other examples throughout his career. This is a rare circumstance that i've heard him say something after the fact like this. Given the credibility that he has built for a long time now you have to put weight to it. He wouldn't just be saying this out of the blue given all the inside information he receives. Wouldn't do anything for him. There is literally no benefit for him to say this without believing it. And given the access to information he receives. There is no reason for him to believe so without a good amount of credible smoke.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 29, 2024 20:24:34 GMT -5
That would have been even more controversial than a QB, if true. I was curious to see if a move like that solved one issue, once and for all. Yes, I don't believe it. If we wanted an OT there were 3-4 other OT's that were there that are going to be great players. Alt was my original pick but got off him early because I knew we addressed the OL for this year in FA. I and everyone else knew it came down to QB or WR. Alt is going to be great though and those Charger RB's and Herbert are really going to appreciate him so much. This is like predicting when Dallas drafted Zack Martin that he was going to be great. Alt is a can't miss.
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Post by moecoastie on Apr 29, 2024 22:04:21 GMT -5
I don't think Schefter is right. If the Giants felt it was that big of a need they would've addressed it at some point in the draft. Using that logic, if they wanted a qb they would have drafted one, right? Bottom line, all the talking heads are entertainers first. Accurate reporting is way down on the totem pole.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 29, 2024 23:53:18 GMT -5
I don't think Schefter is right. If the Giants felt it was that big of a need they would've addressed it at some point in the draft. Using that logic, if they wanted a qb they would have drafted one, right? Bottom line, all the talking heads are entertainers first. Accurate reporting is way down on the totem pole. It's a bit different because all the top QB's went at the top of round 1. There were other options for OT in the later rounds.
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