|
|
Post by DJones19 on May 17, 2024 11:44:29 GMT -5
"In this episode, Bob Papa and Carl Banks discuss a recent tweet from Bob that wasn't related to Daniel Jones and sparked backlash from Giants fans. They talk about why it's counterproductive for fans to root against Jones. They explore Daniel Jones's challenges over the years, highlighting the lack of stability from coaching and inadequate support on the field. By comparing the Giants' situation to other franchises, they shed light on why fans need to appreciate what this storied franchise has accomplished.
Lastly, they touch on Hard Knocks' during this 100th season and how fans will see behind-the-scenes access during the off-season."
|
|
|
|
Post by Delicreep on May 17, 2024 12:05:16 GMT -5
I will cheer and root for jones and every other Gmen on the field.
Doesn’t mean I have faith that it will work out that way.
|
|
|
|
Post by cdngfan on May 17, 2024 12:37:07 GMT -5
Fans get over-invested in their opinions, both Giants-positive and Giants-negative opionions.
It’s the human condition.
Some people can only be happy when they’re right, so they root for their opinion over any other interest, including their own.
|
|
|
|
Post by Danke Schoen on May 17, 2024 12:37:19 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones
/thread
|
|
|
|
Post by lt56 on May 17, 2024 12:53:16 GMT -5
I root for The Giants regardless but he must show us something consistently for fans to get on board and stay on board, we owe DJ absolutely nothing
this is Last Chance for him and Neal with me At least, either they break out and show us something or both can go sit and we go with Drew Lock at QB and Eluemunor at Right Tackle and they look to make more upgrades 2025
All the Weapons at the Skill Positions are in Place, Offensive Line should be better but he also has to get the ball out faster with better Accuracy. I don't care who they draft or sign, no such thing as this Perfect Offensive Line that doesn't allow a QB to get touched at all that will never happen. Good QB's make the Line and his Receivers look even better.
|
|
|
|
Post by DJones19 on May 17, 2024 12:55:35 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones /thread Banks disagrees. Banks said there is a sect of the fan base living in goofy land and said... "There is a certain sector of folks calling themselves Giants fans that have made it their lives work to shit on Daniel Jones. It's to the point...to where they are so goofy with their takes it's making Daniel Jones a sympathetic figure." |
|
|
|
Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 17, 2024 13:06:25 GMT -5
Fans get over-invested in their opinions, both Giants-positive and Giants-negative opionions. It’s the human condition. Some people can only be happy when they’re right, so they root for their opinion over any other interest, including their own. That is a huge issue in our society right now and and bleeds into everything else. For me I'm rooting for Jones to turn it around make us all eat crow he is the QB of my team till he's not so for now he is my guy. In realty more than likely I will be rooting for a new guy either next year or the following year , In the meantime I will root for Jones and the Giants to shut people up. |
|
|
|
Post by fredfreddy on May 17, 2024 13:25:10 GMT -5
I have never rooted against Jones on these boards. I really have not seen anyone root against him either. I have seen some harsh takes that border on hatred based on his past play but not really rooting against. We can all get pretty emotional about this team.
With that being said, I don't know why but I have a good feeling about DJ this year. I was excited about last years team in general but didn't really have a feeling about DJ (that didn't last long and almost made me an alcoholic). This year I have a good feeling about Jones. Hopefully he comes in healthy, ready, and proves himself to all of us.
|
|
|
|
Post by McCherry on May 17, 2024 13:31:37 GMT -5
Fans get over-invested in their opinions, both Giants-positive and Giants-negative opionions. It’s the human condition. Some people can only be happy when they’re right, so they root for their opinion over any other interest, including their own. I never got off the Jones train based on 5 outlier games where no one could've succeeded. But I'm not interested in reliving that argument here. But if the Pro-Jones opinion is right, yay. If it's wrong I can admit my part in it. I'm only happy if the team wins. But you're right, there are more than a few fans here who prioritize being right over everything else. |
|
|
|
Post by inconvenientruth on May 17, 2024 13:31:45 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones /thread Banks disagrees. Banks said there is a sect of the fan base living in goofy land and said... "There is a certain sector of folks calling themselves Giants fans that have made it their lives work to shit on Daniel Jones. It's to the point...to where they are so goofy with their takes it's making Daniel Jones a sympathetic figure." Odd. Considering Banks hasn't ever had real standards for Jones, but seems to have all the standards for the rest of the roster. Just like yourself, it's only about what others can do for his bum ass I love that the NY market is known as "tough" Its as soft as they come. Can't even have any expectations for a guy taking up 20% of our cap. Giants fans, and their propaganda artists like Banks, have accepted mediocrity and no fan base deserves it more. When this team goes nowhere for the next half decade I'd like hear Banks thoughts at that point. Likely, whatever his handlers tell him. |
|
Modog
Special Teams
Posts: 1,508
|
Post by Modog on May 17, 2024 13:45:08 GMT -5
God forbid fans have a problem with the underperforming QB who's making 45m a year and now going into year 6.
|
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 17, 2024 13:52:19 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones /thread I’m not pointing you out, but there are definitely people on here rooting against Jones. |
|
|
|
Post by Speedman on May 17, 2024 13:54:11 GMT -5
I have never rooted against Jones on these boards. I really have not seen anyone root against him either. I have seen some harsh takes that border on hatred based on his past play but not really rooting against. We can all get pretty emotional about this team. With that being said, I don't know why but I have a good feeling about DJ this year. I was excited about last years team in general but didn't really have a feeling about DJ (that didn't last long and almost made me an alcoholic). This year I have a good feeling about Jones. Hopefully he comes in healthy, ready, and proves himself to all of us. Thy mask it but they root against him so they can be right. |
|
|
|
Post by Analyst on May 17, 2024 14:10:30 GMT -5
I will cheer and root for jones and every other Gmen on the field. Doesn’t mean I have faith that it will work out that way.  I root for the jersey. If the guys stinks, Ill call it out and be upset. If he is great, Ill call it out and be happy. DJ has not been great here enough to get any benefit of the doubt. People confuse calling out reality as rooting against a player. |
|
|
|
Post by IrishMike on May 17, 2024 14:30:18 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones /thread Banks disagrees. Banks said there is a sect of the fan base living in goofy land and said... "There is a certain sector of folks calling themselves Giants fans that have made it their lives work to shit on Daniel Jones. It's to the point...to where they are so goofy with their takes it's making Daniel Jones a sympathetic figure." Ok which member here is actually Banks? Clearly he has visited these boards and read some "goofy" takes. |
|
|
|
Post by GameTime on May 17, 2024 14:34:08 GMT -5
God forbid fans have a problem with the underperforming QB who's making 45m a year and now going into year 6. thats not the point. Most fans have a problem with the performance. Why root against him? Thats the point. |
|
|
|
Post by myronguyton29 on May 17, 2024 14:37:46 GMT -5
are we on hard knocks?
|
|
mendy
Starter
Posts: 4,829
|
Post by mendy on May 17, 2024 14:41:56 GMT -5
Just like the usual suspects here…. No one is rooting against Jones /thread Banks disagrees. Banks said there is a sect of the fan base living in goofy land and said... "There is a certain sector of folks calling themselves Giants fans that have made it their lives work to shit on Daniel Jones. It's to the point...to where they are so goofy with their takes it's making Daniel Jones a sympathetic figure." Banks is right, they both are. |
|
|
|
Post by Nite on May 17, 2024 14:43:38 GMT -5
Banks disagrees. Banks said there is a sect of the fan base living in goofy land and said... "There is a certain sector of folks calling themselves Giants fans that have made it their lives work to shit on Daniel Jones. It's to the point...to where they are so goofy with their takes it's making Daniel Jones a sympathetic figure." Odd. Considering Banks hasn't ever had real standards for Jones, but seems to have all the standard for the rest of the roster. Just like yourself, it's only about what others can do for his bum ass I love that the NY market is known as "tough" Its as soft as they come. Can't even have any expectations for a guy taking up 20% of our cap. Giants fans, and their propaganda artists like Banks, have accepted mediocrity and no fan base deserves it more. When this team goes nowhere for the next half decade I'd like hear Banks thoughts at that point. Likely, whatever his handlers tell him. +1 |
|
|
|
Post by Nite on May 17, 2024 14:48:33 GMT -5
Conversely there are those 'fans' who root for certain individuals. Win-loss records does not really matter to them. I'm a fan of the team, not a particular player.
I Iove how being critical of certain players - their actual play is now considered to be 'toxic'
|
|
Modog
Special Teams
Posts: 1,508
|
Post by Modog on May 17, 2024 14:55:08 GMT -5
God forbid fans have a problem with the underperforming QB who's making 45m a year and now going into year 6. thats not the point. Most fans have a problem with the performance. Why root against him? Thats the point. I don't think anybody is rooting against him, aleast not someone who is a fan of the team. But some of us, myself included, have come to realization he just isn't good enough |
|
|
|
Post by McCherry on May 17, 2024 14:56:19 GMT -5
Conversely there are those 'fans' who root for certain individuals. Win-loss records does not really matter to them. I'm a fan of the team, not a particular player. I Iove how being critical of certain players - their actual play is now considered to be 'toxic' Criticism is not being called out... Criticism and rooting against your interests are two very different things. |
|
|
|
Post by SG88 on May 17, 2024 15:22:09 GMT -5
I will never, ever take anyone who's on the Giants payroll seriously when it comes to assessing the team. More power to those who continuously flaunt anything that Companyman Carl says as gospel. I do not know a single Giants fan who hates 8 and is actively rooting against him. Being disgusted by the horrible ROI when it comes to 8 isn't hating him at all.
IMO, the people who act like everything is fine with this team are way more toxic than those who are critical of the team. We only have the worst record in the NFL over the last 10 years. Everything is just peachy apparently.
|
|
|
|
Post by inconvenientruth on May 17, 2024 15:35:16 GMT -5
I will never, ever take anyone who's on the Giants payroll seriously when it comes to assessing the team. More power to those who continuously flaunt anything that Companyman Carl says as gospel. I do not know a single Giants fan who hates 8 and is actively rooting against him. Being disgusted by the horrible ROI when it comes to 8 isn't hating him at all. IMO, the people who act like everything is fine with this team are way more toxic than those who are critical of the team. We only have the worst record in the NFL over the last 10 years. Everything is just peachy apparently. I think summer students, or entry-level employees, regardless of the occupation, are held to higher standards from their employers than our $160MM dollar man. its all about what we can do for him, and not what he can do for us. Tripling down on a sunk cost is an interesting strategy. Lets see how this fares for our FO. Heck, they'll probably we rewarded after a few more losing seasons. |
|
mendy
Starter
Posts: 4,829
|
Post by mendy on May 17, 2024 15:36:28 GMT -5
I will never, ever take anyone who's on the Giants payroll seriously when it comes to assessing the team. More power to those who continuously flaunt anything that Companyman Carl says as gospel. I do not know a single Giants fan who hates 8 and is actively rooting against him. Being disgusted by the horrible ROI when it comes to 8 isn't hating him at all. IMO, the people who act like everything is fine with this team are way more toxic than those who are critical of the team. We only have the worst record in the NFL over the last 10 years. Everything is just peachy apparently. I think summer students, or entry-level employees, regardless of the occupation, are held to higher standards from their employers than our $160MM dollar man. LOL, you're exactly who Carl is talking about, "Goofy". |
|
|
|
Post by inconvenientruth on May 17, 2024 15:37:31 GMT -5
I think summer students, or entry-level employees, regardless of the occupation, are held to higher standards from their employers than our $160MM dollar man. LOL, you're exactly who Carl is talking about, "Goofy". there is no one more "goofy" than the Giants organization. As evidenced by their recent history. Propaganda from their FO is expected, it's how inept organizations stay inept |
|
mendy
Starter
Posts: 4,829
|
Post by mendy on May 17, 2024 15:41:16 GMT -5
It's great to see the "goofy contingent" get their panties in a wad becuase to people with more integrity then them called them out! Love it.
|
|
|
|
Post by inconvenientruth on May 17, 2024 15:41:56 GMT -5
It's great to see the "goofy contingent" get their panties in a wad becuase to people with more integrity then them called them out! Love it. I'm not sure you understand the concept of "integrity", in this instance With all due respect. |
|
|
|
Post by Roosevelt on May 17, 2024 15:43:47 GMT -5
"In this episode, Bob Papa and Carl Banks discuss a recent tweet from Bob that wasn't related to Daniel Jones and sparked backlash from Giants fans. They talk about why it's counterproductive for fans to root against Jones. They explore Daniel Jones's challenges over the years, highlighting the lack of stability from coaching and inadequate support on the field. By comparing the Giants' situation to other franchises, they shed light on why fans need to appreciate what this storied franchise has accomplished. Lastly, they touch on Hard Knocks' during this 100th season and how fans will see behind-the-scenes access during the off-season." Well, ain’t that inconvenient - men talking about the reality of life in the NFL. And all this time I figured it was the money that made these players great. |
|
|
|
Post by Roosevelt on May 17, 2024 15:46:46 GMT -5
Quick, someone put on a tape of some kid breaking down Jones’ game so reality can set back in.
|
|
