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Post by ratbastich on Jul 15, 2024 9:36:12 GMT -5
That kind of sounds like how Wink used him though, as a hybrid defensive back/linebacker. I think Alabama used a lot of the Money position which is the 6th DB i think he was Clemson though He was. Just saying the tweet from Raanan makes it seem like something new but the Giants used him like that last year and when Daboll was in Alabama it was being used, not that he, as an OC, would've had much to do with it but he would've seen it a lot.
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Post by giants8493 on Jul 15, 2024 11:52:31 GMT -5
i think he was Clemson though He was. Just saying the tweet from Raanan makes it seem like something new but the Giants used him like that last year and when Daboll was in Alabama it was being used, not that he, as an OC, would've had much to do with it but he would've seen it a lot. I thought Arizona was really good with the lb/s hybrid positions yet he didn't work out there
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Post by Jomo on Jul 15, 2024 12:05:09 GMT -5
He was. Just saying the tweet from Raanan makes it seem like something new but the Giants used him like that last year and when Daboll was in Alabama it was being used, not that he, as an OC, would've had much to do with it but he would've seen it a lot. I thought Arizona was really good with the lb/s hybrid positions yet he didn't work out there After all this time through multiple coaches ....maybe he has the right athletic skills but the wrong mental processing to pull off this hybrid role? Maybe simplufying things for him would serve him better.
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Post by robl on Jul 24, 2024 13:15:55 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan @jordanraanan Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires.
Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks.
Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants.
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Post by piddy283 on Jul 24, 2024 14:57:31 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan @jordanraanan Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires. Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks. Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants. Interesting. Is he any good in run support? Dude is an athletic freak, so maybe we're looking to match him up against TEs and bigger slot WRs?
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Post by Rangers13 on Jul 25, 2024 8:58:30 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan @jordanraanan Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires. Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks. Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants. great news when the confidence Day 1 in camp is trying a hybrid safety/linebacker at cornerback 🤦♂️
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Post by GameTime on Jul 27, 2024 5:44:53 GMT -5
Jordan Raanan @jordanraanan Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires. Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks. Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants. great news when the confidence Day 1 in camp is trying a hybrid safety/linebacker at cornerback 🤦♂️ maybe just working with the DBs for coverage drills since he will be tracking TEs sometimes. Or maybe in 5 WR sets. Hell even Thibs has to learn to cover when he drops back. I dont see this as a bad thing. TBH I still think Simmons is only going to be a limited snap player who make splash plays here and there.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jul 27, 2024 6:49:40 GMT -5
great news when the confidence Day 1 in camp is trying a hybrid safety/linebacker at cornerback 🤦♂️ maybe just working with the DBs for coverage drills since he will be tracking TEs sometimes. Or maybe in 5 WR sets. Hell even Thibs has to learn to cover when he drops back. I dont see this as a bad thing. TBH I still think Simmons is only going to be a limited snap player who make splash plays here and there. He’s a hybrid without a home and this is likely an indication of how shallow the depth is at CB on this roster.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 27, 2024 7:12:27 GMT -5
great news when the confidence Day 1 in camp is trying a hybrid safety/linebacker at cornerback 🤦♂️ maybe just working with the DBs for coverage drills since he will be tracking TEs sometimes. Or maybe in 5 WR sets. Hell even Thibs has to learn to cover when he drops back. I dont see this as a bad thing. TBH I still think Simmons is only going to be a limited snap player who make splash plays here and there. Splash plays.. He could jump off the Statue of Liberty and not cause a ripple..
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Post by GameTime on Jul 27, 2024 7:42:04 GMT -5
maybe just working with the DBs for coverage drills since he will be tracking TEs sometimes. Or maybe in 5 WR sets. Hell even Thibs has to learn to cover when he drops back. I dont see this as a bad thing. TBH I still think Simmons is only going to be a limited snap player who make splash plays here and there. He’s a hybrid without a home and this is likely an indication of how shallow the depth is at CB on this roster. or he is doing drills with CBs as a matter of this what they do. but yes he is a tweener.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 27, 2024 7:47:47 GMT -5
maybe just working with the DBs for coverage drills since he will be tracking TEs sometimes. Or maybe in 5 WR sets. Hell even Thibs has to learn to cover when he drops back. I dont see this as a bad thing. TBH I still think Simmons is only going to be a limited snap player who make splash plays here and there. Splash plays.. He could jump off the Statue of Liberty and not cause a ripple.. yeah well....I did say here and there. He has the skills to be situationally effective and I feel he probably will be.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jul 27, 2024 9:02:53 GMT -5
He’s a hybrid without a home and this is likely an indication of how shallow the depth is at CB on this roster. or he is doing drills with CBs as a matter of this what they do. but yes he is a tweener. why? Does a blocking HB get reps at Guard and Tackle? Does a WR line up at TE? He’s a tweezer linebacker and safety, whose weight fluctuates between 220lb-242lbs, who just so happens to be taking reps opening day of camp at a position the Giants are weak at. or maybe you’re correct. Anything is possible. Jones at linebacker could happen 👍👍👍
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Post by Rangers13 on Jul 27, 2024 9:04:37 GMT -5
He was. Just saying the tweet from Raanan makes it seem like something new but the Giants used him like that last year and when Daboll was in Alabama it was being used, not that he, as an OC, would've had much to do with it but he would've seen it a lot. I thought Arizona was really good with the lb/s hybrid positions yet he didn't work out there they couldn’t figure out what to do with him so gave up. Apparently the Giants are doing the same.
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