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Post by Morehead State on Jul 9, 2024 18:41:15 GMT -5
Here's an AI list which has obvious flaws and omissions, but what it proves is 100 players is an awful lot to honor. Lawrence Taylor Eli Manning Michael Strahan Frank Gifford Y.A. Tittle Harry Carson Sam Huff Phil Simms Mel Hein Roosevelt Brown Tiki Barber Emlen Tunnell Andy Robustelli Charlie Conerly Carl Banks Amani Toomer Osi Umenyiora Mark Bavaro Justin Tuck Ken Strong Leonard Marshall Ottis Anderson Joe Morris Jessie Armstead Joe Morrison Rodney Hampton Brad Van Pelt Doug Van Horn Kyle Rote Rosey Grier Ernie Stautner Jack Gregory Bart Oates Pepper Johnson Tuffy Leemans Pat Summerall Dave Meggett Brad Benson Jim Katcavage Dick Lynch Ron Johnson William Roberts Shaun O'Hara George Martin Ray Flaherty Plaxico Burress Dave Jennings Jumbo Elliott Tom Landry Henry Carr Brian Kelley Bill Parcells (as a coach) Michael Boley Jay Alford Ike Hilliard Aaron Pierce Jason Sehorn Everson Walls Bob Tucker Keith Hamilton Pete Henry Carl "Spider" Lockhart Homer Jones Ken Burrough Steve DeOssie William Joseph David Tyree Victor Cruz Saquon Barkley Odell Beckham Jr. Lawrence Tynes Kerry Collins Corey Webster Dan Campbell Brandon Jacobs Derrick Ward Mario Manningham Dalvin Tomlinson Jason Pierre-Paul Antrel Rolle Landon Collins Steve Smith Zak DeOssie Alex Webster John Mendenhall Troy Archer Gary Reasons Tom Coughlin Fred Dryer Bob Lurtsama Jim Katcavage Del Schofner Ray Wietehca Jim Burt I would put Eli just ahead of Brad Benson. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2024 19:26:49 GMT -5
Since this is a player's list, I don't expect we'll see any coaches. So any of you Handley lovers can just forget it.
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Post by 3days on Jul 9, 2024 19:33:04 GMT -5
Since this is a player's list, I don't expect we'll see any coaches. So any of you Handley lovers can just forget it. I call PS he and Perkins should be right at the top |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2024 19:49:54 GMT -5
Since this is a player's list, I don't expect we'll see any coaches. So any of you Handley lovers can just forget it. I call PS he and Perkins should be right at the top I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. |
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Post by sickntired on Jul 9, 2024 20:06:37 GMT -5
I can’t possibly imagine who would be number one. These lists are like beating a dead horse. Rehash, rehash, rehash……
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Post by 3days on Jul 9, 2024 20:36:02 GMT -5
I call PS he and Perkins should be right at the top I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. I was pretty young, so I don’t remember those either. What I remember is run on first, run on 2nd and pass on 3rd if over 3 yards, otherwise run on 3rd. Parcells was a breath of fresh air. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2024 21:12:09 GMT -5
I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. I was pretty young, so I don’t remember those either. What I remember is run on first, run on 2nd and pass on 3rd if over 3 yards, otherwise run on 3rd. Parcells was a breath of fresh air. That's funny because that's what Parcells ended up becoming in the end. |
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Post by mendy on Jul 10, 2024 5:26:08 GMT -5
I call PS he and Perkins should be right at the top I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. LOL................. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 10, 2024 8:18:58 GMT -5
I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. LOL................. I meant Perkins lol |
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Post by mendy on Jul 10, 2024 9:05:47 GMT -5
LOL, my bad. The only Coach Ray I remember with the Giants , Perk was not very memorable.IMO. |
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 10, 2024 9:10:27 GMT -5
LOL, my bad. The only Coach Ray I remember with the Giants , Perk was not very memorable.IMO. I'm going to disagree with that. Ray Perkins was the HC that began the turnaround of our team. He really turned our identity around into a solid defensive team. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 10, 2024 9:30:51 GMT -5
Here's an AI list which has obvious flaws and omissions, but what it proves is 100 players is an awful lot to honor. Lawrence Taylor Eli Manning Michael Strahan Frank Gifford Y.A. Tittle Harry Carson Sam Huff Phil Simms Mel Hein Roosevelt Brown Tiki BarberEmlen Tunnell Andy Robustelli Charlie Conerly Chris Snee Carl Banks Amani Toomer Osi Umenyiora Mark Bavaro Justin Tuck Ken Strong Leonard Marshall Ottis Anderson Joe Morris Jessie Armstead Joe Morrison Rodney Hampton Brad Van Pelt Doug Van Horn Kyle Rote Rosey Grier Ernie Stautner Jack Gregory Bart Oates Pepper Johnson Tuffy Leemans Pat Summerall Dave Meggett Brad Benson Jim Katcavage Dick Lynch Ron Johnson Aaron Ross William Roberts Shaun O'Hara George Martin Ray Flaherty Plaxico Burress Joe Pisarcik Tiki BarberDave Jennings Jumbo Elliott Tom Landry Henry Carr Brian Kelley Bill Parcells (as a coach) Michael Boley Jay Alford Chris Calloway Deon Grant DeAngelo Hall Ike Hilliard Aaron Pierce Jason Sehorn Everson Walls Bob Tucker Keith Hamilton Pete Henry Carl "Spider" Lockhart Homer Jones Ken Burrough Chris Canty Mathias Kiwanuka Steve DeOssie William Joseph Dan Reeves (as a coach) Ron Dayne David Tyree Victor Cruz Saquon Barkley Odell Beckham Jr. Carl Hagelin Lawrence Tynes Kerry Collins Corey Webster Dan Campbell Brandon Jacobs Derrick Ward Mario Manningham Dalvin Tomlinson Jason Pierre-Paul Antrel Rolle Landon Collins Steve Smith Reggie White Zak DeOssie Henry Hynoski Devon Kennard Markus Golden Wayne Gallman Not to mention the Non-Giants on the list Wayne Gallman and Joe Pisarcik are better than HOFers  Arnie Weinmeister Steve Owen Benny Friedman Tiki is so great he is on the list twice. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 10, 2024 10:15:17 GMT -5
Here's an AI list which has obvious flaws and omissions, but what it proves is 100 players is an awful lot to honor. Lawrence Taylor Eli Manning Michael Strahan Frank Gifford Y.A. Tittle Harry Carson Sam Huff Phil Simms Mel Hein Roosevelt Brown Tiki BarberEmlen Tunnell Andy Robustelli Charlie Conerly Chris Snee Carl Banks Amani Toomer Osi Umenyiora Mark Bavaro Justin Tuck Ken Strong Leonard Marshall Ottis Anderson Joe Morris Jessie Armstead Joe Morrison Rodney Hampton Brad Van Pelt Doug Van Horn Kyle Rote Rosey Grier Ernie Stautner Jack Gregory Bart Oates Pepper Johnson Tuffy Leemans Pat Summerall Dave Meggett Brad Benson Jim Katcavage Dick Lynch Ron Johnson Aaron Ross William Roberts Shaun O'Hara George Martin Ray Flaherty Plaxico Burress Joe Pisarcik Tiki BarberDave Jennings Jumbo Elliott Tom Landry Henry Carr Brian Kelley Bill Parcells (as a coach) Michael Boley Jay Alford Chris Calloway Deon Grant DeAngelo Hall Ike Hilliard Aaron Pierce Jason Sehorn Everson Walls Bob Tucker Keith Hamilton Pete Henry Carl "Spider" Lockhart Homer Jones Ken Burrough Chris Canty Mathias Kiwanuka Steve DeOssie William Joseph Dan Reeves (as a coach) Ron Dayne David Tyree Victor Cruz Saquon Barkley Odell Beckham Jr. Carl Hagelin Lawrence Tynes Kerry Collins Corey Webster Dan Campbell Brandon Jacobs Derrick Ward Mario Manningham Dalvin Tomlinson Jason Pierre-Paul Antrel Rolle Landon Collins Steve Smith Reggie White Zak DeOssie Henry Hynoski Devon Kennard Markus Golden Wayne Gallman Not to mention the Non-Giants on the list Wayne Gallman and Joe Pisarcik are better than HOFers Arnie Weinmeister Steve Owen Benny Friedman Tiki is so great he is on the list twice. It is pretty strange to see some of the names on there. DeAngelo Hall, Pete Henry, Ernie Stautner are some others. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 10, 2024 12:00:57 GMT -5
SQB I did not realize he had over 7000 all purpose yards and 47 TDs thats basically in 5 years being a he tore his ACL and MCL 1 QT into the second game of 2019 that is some serious production glad he made the top 100.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 10, 2024 12:03:27 GMT -5
LOL, my bad. The only Coach Ray I remember with the Giants , Perk was not very memorable.IMO. I'm going to disagree with that. Ray Perkins was the HC that began the turnaround of our team. He really turned our identity around into a solid defensive team. Perkins was a good coach I thought Handley was a genius just not when it came to football I remember reading Handley could count cards in vegas think he might have gotten banned from a place. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 10, 2024 12:04:06 GMT -5
I call PS he and Perkins should be right at the top I never got a feel for Ray. I have no memory of any of his press conferences. Hard to get a feel when their is nothing there lol. |
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Post by Jomo on Jul 11, 2024 14:40:47 GMT -5
It is going to be hard for me to take this seriously if they are slotting Hakeem Nicks in at #97.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 11, 2024 14:44:23 GMT -5
Southern, buttoned up style. defense orientations, pretty much forgettable taking questions. He was an upgrade for us at the time so I was happy to have him but he was just a bridge from the dark ages we lived through before that. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 11, 2024 17:20:37 GMT -5
Southern, buttoned up style. defense orientations, pretty much forgettable taking questions. He was an upgrade for us at the time so I was happy to have him but he was just a bridge from the dark ages we lived through before that. Southern and buttoned up matches my recollection. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 19, 2024 22:16:14 GMT -5
Just bumping this to let everyone know that I'm updating the OP as the Giants continue to release their countdown of players. Right now they have realized 71-100 which include some great Giants.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 20, 2024 9:00:27 GMT -5
Not on this planet or the authors is Antonio Pierce higher than Pepper Johnson.. Most teams are cooked when they lose the meat and potatoes of their defense. Losing Carson to retirement left a giant hole at linebacker. While most players bite off more than they can chew from the challenge of filling those massive shoulder pads. We sprinkled some pepper to an already stacked defense and fed opposing offenses to the earth.
The great Bill Belichick has stated that no linebacker he has ever coached had the speed and athleticism of Lawrence Taylor. Right behind him he put Pepper Johnson. Lofty words from a man who said so little. Johnson gave our defense something it never had before. The ability to rush the passer from the inside linebacker position. While there is so much to choose from when you’re making a defense. Sometimes you need old reliable pepper to get the right taste.
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Post by 3days on Jul 20, 2024 9:35:53 GMT -5
Just bumping this to let everyone know that I'm updating the OP as the Giants continue to release their countdown of players. Right now they have realized 71-100 which include some great Giants.
So far I like their list a lot better than the AI one |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 20, 2024 9:49:42 GMT -5
Not on this planet or the authors is Antonio Pierce higher than Pepper Johnson.. Most teams are cooked when they lose the meat and potatoes of their defense. Losing Carson to retirement left a giant hole at linebacker. While most players bite off more than they can chew from the challenge of filling those massive shoulder pads. We sprinkled some pepper to an already stacked defense and fed opposing offenses to the earth. The great Bill Belichick has stated that no linebacker he has ever coached had the speed and athleticism of Lawrence Taylor. Right behind him he put Pepper Johnson. Lofty words from a man who said so little. Johnson gave our defense something it never had before. The ability to rush the passer from the inside linebacker position. While there is so much to choose from when you’re making a defense. Sometimes you need old reliable pepper to get the right taste.
Good to see Gary Reasons recognized right along side Pepper. Reasons was a play maker whose name may have been overshadowed by the names of Taylor, Banks and the others while his game wasn't. He contributed big time to the Giants D with everyone remembering the goal line shot in the snow against the Broncos.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 20, 2024 9:56:46 GMT -5
Not on this planet or the authors is Antonio Pierce higher than Pepper Johnson.. Most teams are cooked when they lose the meat and potatoes of their defense. Losing Carson to retirement left a giant hole at linebacker. While most players bite off more than they can chew from the challenge of filling those massive shoulder pads. We sprinkled some pepper to an already stacked defense and fed opposing offenses to the earth. The great Bill Belichick has stated that no linebacker he has ever coached had the speed and athleticism of Lawrence Taylor. Right behind him he put Pepper Johnson. Lofty words from a man who said so little. Johnson gave our defense something it never had before. The ability to rush the passer from the inside linebacker position. While there is so much to choose from when you’re making a defense. Sometimes you need old reliable pepper to get the right taste.
Good to see Gary Reasons recognized right along side Pepper. Reasons was a play maker whose name may have been overshadowed by the names of Taylor, Banks and the others while his game wasn't. He contributed big time to the Giants D with everyone remembering the goal line shot in the snow against the Broncos.
I could give you a hundred reasons why Gary should be on that list.. Hell of a player.. Who still has the best goal line hit of all time. |
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Post by mendy on Jul 20, 2024 16:31:25 GMT -5
Not on this planet or the authors is Antonio Pierce higher than Pepper Johnson.. Most teams are cooked when they lose the meat and potatoes of their defense. Losing Carson to retirement left a giant hole at linebacker. While most players bite off more than they can chew from the challenge of filling those massive shoulder pads. We sprinkled some pepper to an already stacked defense and fed opposing offenses to the earth. The great Bill Belichick has stated that no linebacker he has ever coached had the speed and athleticism of Lawrence Taylor. Right behind him he put Pepper Johnson. Lofty words from a man who said so little. Johnson gave our defense something it never had before. The ability to rush the passer from the inside linebacker position. While there is so much to choose from when you’re making a defense. Sometimes you need old reliable pepper to get the right taste.
Good to see Gary Reasons recognized right along side Pepper. Reasons was a play maker whose name may have been overshadowed by the names of Taylor, Banks and the others while his game wasn't. He contributed big time to the Giants D with everyone remembering the goal line shot in the snow against the Broncos.
The story is after that game they had to change his face mask, he bent it on that hit. |
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Post by DJones19 on Jul 21, 2024 8:39:18 GMT -5
In what world are Bradshaw, Meggett, and Jacobs higher than Barkley.
and Meggett...isn't that guy in jail? haha
Jacobs the same guy who was yapping that he was disrespected by the Giants when he was on the 49ers before getting suspended from the 49ers for Tweeting...so similar situation as Barkley but I thought Jacobs was more vocally negative about the NYG after leaving.
I don't think an organization rating their own players like this is a great idea.
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Post by keyofgmen on Jul 21, 2024 9:14:13 GMT -5
Fran Tarkenton?
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Post by mendy on Jul 21, 2024 9:49:20 GMT -5
I don't think an organization rating their own players like this is a great idea. They aren't there is a Committee doing it. |
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Post by giants8493 on Jul 21, 2024 17:44:08 GMT -5
how do Hynoski and Gallman make the list, lol... I don't think they will unfortunately. I hope Dexter Lawrence makes it he is much more deserving then those two |
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Post by giants8493 on Jul 21, 2024 17:45:10 GMT -5
Paul Perkins? He wasn't very good IMO |
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