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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 8, 2024 16:02:33 GMT -5
Sorry I'm pissed off but its ****ing laughable to me that people are blaming the play calling for this loss.
I was complaining about the play calling as well, why are they not pushing the ball downfield? Why not take more shots?
Because the QB is terrible, that is why. He has zero pocket presence. He couldn't even hit 10-15 yard passes. He threw 2 picks and easily could have been more. He stepped into pressure when he didn't have to.
Daniel Jones is terrible...period. There is no arguing it anymore. Please stop. He is a joke, and all the other teams know it. This isn't how Daboll called plays in Buffalo with Josh Allen, because he is a real QB.
You want to place blame? Blame the GM who decided he was worth that contract. He has to own it. Daboll is the HC so he is not without blame, but Jones is washed. Needs to be benched.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 8, 2024 16:04:41 GMT -5
Giants are a total mess on so many levels. Giants needed to be aggressive at beginning of game and wasn't. Daboll's awc offensive system brings out the worse in players. It's now clear the Buffalo was a good team as it had a smart coach. Daboll is simply a bad coach. No reason to go over all the bad things Daboll did. Jones was bad as was Daboll. I like good football. No future with Daboll. Even a better QB won't help. Going to watch Jets tomorrow night. Hope they'll play well and there's a NY team to root for. Feel bad for Giants fans. Nothing to look forward to. [br The problem is the ****ing QB...period. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 16:04:43 GMT -5
Great start
Barkley had a great night
Jones was awful
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Post by McCherry on Sept 8, 2024 16:05:21 GMT -5
I am not worried about Burns either. neither is Kamala despite her hourly changes You feeling ok? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 16:08:22 GMT -5
neither is Kamala despite her hourly changes You feeling ok? Just calling a spade a spade Mike. No worries to complaining all game about the guy lol. Now you go into denial. Peart like. Just man up bro |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 8, 2024 16:09:27 GMT -5
Sorry I'm pissed off but its ****ing laughable to me that people are blaming the play calling for this loss. I was complaining about the play calling as well, why are they not pushing the ball downfield? Why not take more shots? Because the QB is terrible, that is why. He has zero pocket presence. He couldn't even hit 10-15 yard passes. He threw 2 picks and easily could have been more. He stepped into pressure when he didn't have to. Daniel Jones is terrible...period. There is no arguing it anymore. Please stop. He is a joke, and all the other teams know it. This isn't how Daboll called plays in Buffalo with Josh Allen, because he is a real QB. You want to place blame? Blame the GM who decided he was worth that contract. He has to own it. Daboll is the HC so he is not without blame, but Jones is washed. Needs to be benched. It's not even that he's washed. Fans just now finally realize what he always was. The sad part is it took this much context |
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Post by idkaname on Sept 8, 2024 16:13:35 GMT -5
Giants are a total mess on so many levels. Giants needed to be aggressive at beginning of game and wasn't. Daboll's awc offensive system brings out the worse in players. It's now clear the Buffalo was a good team as it had a smart coach. Daboll is simply a bad coach. No reason to go over all the bad things Daboll did. Jones was bad as was Daboll. I like good football. No future with Daboll. Even a better QB won't help. Going to watch Jets tomorrow night. Hope they'll play well and there's a NY team to root for. Feel bad for Giants fans. Nothing to look forward to. pathetic he’s not wrong. The true colors showed last year. Doesn’t have good management with time and or situations. Doesn’t have a clue what to do with special teams returners. Doesn’t have a functional defense. Doesn’t have the follow of the players. This shit is practiced dude. Even the bad throws and misses from jones were useless completions. The play calling was a DUD. I don’t remember one play where a WR had spacing, this shit was happening in preseason vs the Texans…2 WRs in the same zone. It’s really pop warner mistakes and that’s bad coaching. Everyone talks about the complexity of this offense and it’s literally broken. Every other game I’ve tuned into for a drive or 2 has had players OPEN. Look at the Vikings team, the rollout and the player is actually open due to a better design. There was 0 adjustments at halftime, same pathetic calls. Shit on jones all you want , there was NOTHING done by the only man with power to do so. You wanna know why nothing has changed with all these coaches and jones ? NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Same reactive defenses, same basic route trees and spacing, it’s poor coaching. I’m not saying his schemes are basic but man his teaching of those schemes is clearly NOT working. Guys are not developing. There is talent on this team, even at QB. The strengths of the players isn’t tapped and I see un-inspired , low energy players. We start the game with an amazing sack by Dexter, guys weren’t hype, they were naive. They saw one guy step up and thought this was going to be a cakewalk. Unprepared for any challenge, it’s really a pompous style they’ve inherited from the coaches. Judge, mcadoo, Daboll. All tough guys til they get punched in the mouth. They’re on the sidelines while other coaches are improving their team. This team wreaks of doubt and regret. There’s no culture and to be fair, is partly due to the youth of this team. So many new faces, they need serious time together. Losses like these have to be evaluated extensively to prevent this disaster ever again. Just like last year, the team practically gave up…the new guys see the culture of the vets - we miss Barkley as a leader…and we have dex on D but nobody on O. Ima cut the rant but man this is not a team |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 8, 2024 16:14:51 GMT -5
100% ****ing pathetic.
Execution, play calls, individuals, coaching, groups etc.
Jones is completely done. He gave his all and its not nearly enough.
STs made their money today.
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 8, 2024 16:17:30 GMT -5
except it’s not jones passing stats it’s daboll Yeah, it's not like Jones passes the ball Holy crap, Daniel Jones derangement syndrome in full effect in this patient So now the DJ fans have switched their theme song to "Daboll Sucks and Jones Got Phucked, Doo-Dah"? V E R Y C l e v e r. But he's the only one of the clacque to show up and post. So, kudos... sort of. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 8, 2024 16:18:00 GMT -5
Sorry I'm pissed off but its ****ing laughable to me that people are blaming the play calling for this loss. I was complaining about the play calling as well, why are they not pushing the ball downfield? Why not take more shots? Because the QB is terrible, that is why. He has zero pocket presence. He couldn't even hit 10-15 yard passes. He threw 2 picks and easily could have been more. He stepped into pressure when he didn't have to. Daniel Jones is terrible...period. There is no arguing it anymore. Please stop. He is a joke, and all the other teams know it. This isn't how Daboll called plays in Buffalo with Josh Allen, because he is a real QB. You want to place blame? Blame the GM who decided he was worth that contract. He has to own it. Daboll is the HC so he is not without blame, but Jones is washed. Needs to be benched. It's not even that he's washed. Fans just now finally realize what he always was. The sad part is it took this much context Agreed. Except some still don't realize it. Still.. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 16:19:10 GMT -5
he’s not wrong. The true colors showed last year. Doesn’t have good management with time and or situations. Doesn’t have a clue what to do with special teams returners. Doesn’t have a functional defense. Doesn’t have the follow of the players. This shit is practiced dude. Even the bad throws and misses from jones were useless completions. The play calling was a DUD. I don’t remember one play where a WR had spacing, this shit was happening in preseason vs the Texans…2 WRs in the same zone. It’s really pop warner mistakes and that’s bad coaching. Everyone talks about the complexity of this offense and it’s literally broken. Every other game I’ve tuned into for a drive or 2 has had players OPEN. Look at the Vikings team, the rollout and the player is actually open due to a better design. There was 0 adjustments at halftime, same pathetic calls. Shit on jones all you want , there was NOTHING done by the only man with power to do so. You wanna know why nothing has changed with all these coaches and jones ? NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Same reactive defenses, same basic route trees and spacing, it’s poor coaching. I’m not saying his schemes are basic but man his teaching of those schemes is clearly NOT working. Guys are not developing. There is talent on this team, even at QB. The strengths of the players isn’t tapped and I see un-inspired , low energy players. We start the game with an amazing sack by Dexter, guys weren’t hype, they were naive. They saw one guy step up and thought this was going to be a cakewalk. Unprepared for any challenge, it’s really a pompous style they’ve inherited from the coaches. Judge, mcadoo, Daboll. All tough guys til they get punched in the mouth. They’re on the sidelines while other coaches are improving their team. This team wreaks of doubt and regret. There’s no culture and to be fair, is partly due to the youth of this team. So many new faces, they need serious time together. Losses like these have to be evaluated extensively to prevent this disaster ever again. Just like last year, the team practically gave up…the new guys see the culture of the vets - we miss Barkley as a leader…and we have dex on D but nobody on O. Ima cut the rant but man this is not a team you’re .5 behind him in the moron division standings. |
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Post by lt56 on Sept 8, 2024 16:20:31 GMT -5
Only Week 1, fans are not going to be very patient this year nor should we be especially with Daniel Jones!
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 8, 2024 16:20:52 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not like Jones passes the ball Holy crap, Daniel Jones derangement syndrome in full effect in this patient So now the DJ fans have switched their theme song to "Daboll Sucks and Jones Got Phucked, Doo-Dah"? V E R Y C l e v e r. But hes the only one of the clacque to show up and post. So, kudos... sort of. Year 6, a new set of excuses Only one constant on our team since 2019. Eventually, the ugly truth will show. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 8, 2024 16:21:13 GMT -5
I have a serious neck injury I can only show a ball under hand. Sorry to hear that. Permanent or can you get better? I know you used to lift weights...hopefully you can eventually get back moving iron. lifting or string man stuff but very light until I have to take a break. Nerve damage is tough to over come I'm just trying to battle and stay active and keep what strenght it didn't take from me really when Jones got the first one I figured the way he looked today was gonna happen I was sure after the second one but you never know nerve damage is weird can't say exactly why some get more Fed up than others. I miss competing. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 16:21:22 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not like Jones passes the ball Holy crap, Daniel Jones derangement syndrome in full effect in this patient So now the DJ fans have switched their theme song to "Daboll Sucks and Jones Got Phucked, Doo-Dah"? V E R Y C l e v e r. But hes the only one of the clacque to show up and post. So, kudos... sort of. as expected |
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Post by TEM on Sept 8, 2024 16:23:05 GMT -5
I kind of knew Olszewski went down in the pregame warmups. We were done.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 8, 2024 16:23:33 GMT -5
Sorry I'm pissed off but its ****ing laughable to me that people are blaming the play calling for this loss. I was complaining about the play calling as well, why are they not pushing the ball downfield? Why not take more shots? Because the QB is terrible, that is why. He has zero pocket presence. He couldn't even hit 10-15 yard passes. He threw 2 picks and easily could have been more. He stepped into pressure when he didn't have to. Daniel Jones is terrible...period. There is no arguing it anymore. Please stop. He is a joke, and all the other teams know it. This isn't how Daboll called plays in Buffalo with Josh Allen, because he is a real QB. You want to place blame? Blame the GM who decided he was worth that contract. He has to own it. Daboll is the HC so he is not without blame, but Jones is washed. Needs to be benched. He was bad now he seems worse than ever I think because they took the swimmies off it's sink or swim. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 8, 2024 16:25:14 GMT -5
Just calling a spade a spade Mike. No worries to complaining all game about the guy lol. Now you go into denial. Peart like. Just man up bro I loved the Burns trade and expect more from him. Does that make sense to you? We really need to have more of these interactions. They be so smart much. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 8, 2024 16:25:26 GMT -5
I kind of knew Olszewski went down in the pregame warmups. We were done. When purchasing a house, being concerned about the colour of the fence, rather than a homes foundation, is an interesting way of knowing something wasn't for you. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 16:27:46 GMT -5
Just calling a spade a spade Mike. No worries to complaining all game about the guy lol. Now you go into denial. Peart like. Just man up bro I loved the Burns trade and expect more from him. Does that make sense to you? We really need to have more of these interactions. They be so smart much. like Peart you’re kinda out of touch until reality appears. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 8, 2024 16:30:47 GMT -5
So now the DJ fans have switched their theme song to "Daboll Sucks and Jones Got Phucked, Doo-Dah"? V E R Y C l e v e r. But hes the only one of the clacque to show up and post. So, kudos... sort of. Year 6, a new set of excuses Only one constant on our team since 2019. Eventually, the ugly truth will show. Really if you are a fan you want him to be good Jones is not good and is getting worse I believe he is being asked to use the whole playbook training wheels are off and the results are not good. I will say this I believe more in Daboll than Jones Daboll has been a successful play caller and designer at a pretty high level he had the Giants I believe in the top 5 with separation last year. Jones is the issue if continues to play he will play them not the #1 pick to many mental holes in his game. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 8, 2024 16:33:07 GMT -5
Year 6, a new set of excuses Only one constant on our team since 2019. Eventually, the ugly truth will show. Really if you are a fan you want him to be good Jones is not good and is getting worse I believe he is being asked to use the whole playbook training wheels are off and the results are not good. I will say this I believe more in Daboll than Jones Daboll has been a successful play caller and designer at a pretty high level he had the Giants I believe in the top 5 with separation last year. Jones is the issue if continues to play he will play them not the #1 pick to many mental holes in his game. Honestly? I just can't keep blaming Daniel Jones, for being Daniel Jones. I have no ill will. This FO can't claim they already know this and then have no urgency to find a replacement. I get it, it would have cost a lot, but you need to risk it for the bisket. You can't just sit on the fence with Daniel, and not really try that hard to replace him. They're just fence sitting, all around and it's so frustrating to watch And then they preach patience. Tick Tock Joe Schoen. This is it |
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Post by Aris on Sept 8, 2024 16:43:21 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. Permanent or can you get better? I know you used to lift weights...hopefully you can eventually get back moving iron. lifting or string man stuff but very light until I have to take a break. Nerve damage is tough to over come I'm just trying to battle and stay active and keep what strenght it didn't take from me really when Jones got the first one I figured the way he looked today was gonna happen I was sure after the second one but you never know nerve damage is weird can't say exactly why some get more Fed up than others. I miss competing. Yeah, getting old is not fun. At least I have the Giants to keep me happy as I enter retirement  |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 8, 2024 16:51:43 GMT -5
embarrassing
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Post by Aris on Sept 8, 2024 16:53:17 GMT -5
Sorry I'm pissed off but its ****ing laughable to me that people are blaming the play calling for this loss. I was complaining about the play calling as well, why are they not pushing the ball downfield? Why not take more shots? Because the QB is terrible, that is why. He has zero pocket presence. He couldn't even hit 10-15 yard passes. He threw 2 picks and easily could have been more. He stepped into pressure when he didn't have to. Daniel Jones is terrible...period. There is no arguing it anymore. Please stop. He is a joke, and all the other teams know it. This isn't how Daboll called plays in Buffalo with Josh Allen, because he is a real QB. You want to place blame? Blame the GM who decided he was worth that contract. He has to own it. Daboll is the HC so he is not without blame, but Jones is washed. Needs to be benched. Dead on post He also missed open receivers ....it gets worse when you look at the all 22 views. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 8, 2024 16:59:20 GMT -5
I loved the Burns trade and expect more from him. Does that make sense to you? We really need to have more of these interactions. They be so smart much. like Peart you’re kinda out of touch until reality appears.  Ok Biff. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 8, 2024 17:12:49 GMT -5
If i was younger I could improve but at my age not really improvement is being able to use my right arm and still fish at the ocean and stuff no more power lifting or string man stuff but very light until I have to take a break. Nerve damage is tough to over come I'm just trying to battle and stay active and keep what strenght it didn't take from me really when Jones got the first one I figured the way he looked today was gonna happen I was sure after the second one but you never know nerve damage is weird can't say exactly why some get more Fed up than others. I miss competing. Yeah, getting old is not fun. At least I have the Giants to keep me happy as I enter retirement lol sure about that i'm about the hit the beach for some evening surf fishing thats more relaxing  |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 8, 2024 17:15:21 GMT -5
Really if you are a fan you want him to be good Jones is not good and is getting worse I believe he is being asked to use the whole playbook training wheels are off and the results are not good. I will say this I believe more in Daboll than Jones Daboll has been a successful play caller and designer at a pretty high level he had the Giants I believe in the top 5 with separation last year. Jones is the issue if continues to play he will play them not the #1 pick to many mental holes in his game. Honestly? I just can't keep blaming Daniel Jones, for being Daniel Jones. I have no ill will. This FO can't claim they already know this and then have no urgency to find a replacement. I get it, it would have cost a lot, but you need to risk it for the bisket. You can't just sit on the fence with Daniel, and not really try that hard to replace him. They're just fence sitting, all around and it's so frustrating to watch And then they preach patience. Tick Tock Joe Schoen. This is it Now they have to or else lol heading to the beach to exorcise these deamons with some surf fishing |
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Post by nobait4me on Sept 8, 2024 17:15:33 GMT -5
Same old stuff on offense scared to let the ball go protection was great The protection was not good |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 8, 2024 17:23:42 GMT -5
like Peart you’re kinda out of touch until reality appears. Ok Biff. You ok? |
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