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Post by Analyst on Sept 12, 2024 13:18:58 GMT -5
The time is now to replace the QB room. All 3 QBs, DJ, Lock and DeVito are potentially gone after this year, and we have no starter. Bad spot to be.
That said, here are the top names for the 2025 draft at the QB position.
Here are my top 3 as of Week 2:
Carson Beck - Georgia - 6'4" 220lbs
Beck is a high-ceiling prospect with immediate starter potential. His pinpoint accuracy, lightning-quick release, and advanced mental processing are tailor-made for NFL offenses predicated on timing and rhythm. Beck's extensive experience in Georgia's pro-style system should significantly accelerate his NFL acclimation.
While lacking elite arm talent or Houdini-like escapability, Beck's consistency and cerebral approach make him a coveted option for teams seeking a plug-and-play field general. To reach his apex, Beck must elevate his performance under duress and dial in his deep ball accuracy. His current status as the odds-on Heisman favorite speaks volumes about his projected leap in 2024.
Another year of seasoning in the SEC pressure cooker could cement Beck as a top-10 lock. His rare blend of accuracy, football acumen, and proven production in a pro-style offense will have NFL war rooms salivating. Beck profiles as the type of polished signal-caller who can step in on day one and orchestrate a sophisticated NFL offense with minimal growing pains.
Quinn Ewers - Texas - 6'2" 210lbs
Ewers enters his junior season with immense potential but significant room for growth. His arm talent is undeniable, capable of making throws that leave scouts salivating. When he's on, Ewers can pick apart defenses at all levels of the field. His touch on deep balls and ability to layer passes over linebackers are NFL-caliber skills.
However, inconsistent mechanics and decision-making have held Ewers back from truly elite production. He'll need to show improved footwork and more consistent accuracy to solidify himself as a top prospect. Ewers' ability to process defenses and work through progressions will be closely scrutinized as Texas moves to the SEC.
Projecting forward, Ewers profiles as a high-ceiling prospect who could thrive in a vertical passing offense that takes advantage of his arm strength. His quick release and ability to throw from multiple platforms suggest he could succeed in a timing-based system as well.
If he can marry his natural gifts with refined QB mechanics and show progression reading defenses post-snap, Ewers could solidify his position as a first-round prospect. After a breakout 2023 season and with nearly 35 career starts expected by the end of 2024, we are now looking at a blue-chip talent with franchise quarterback potential. The 2024 season will be his NFL audition tape, and scouts will be laser-focused.
Cam Ward - Miami - 6'2" 220lbs
Cameron Ward is a dynamic and talented quarterback whose collegiate career is marked by significant production and adaptability. His ability to make plays off-script and his unique arm talent make him a fascinating prospect for the NFL.
However, Ward's non-traditional style and inconsistency in traditional quarterbacking roles present challenges. His tendency to hold onto the ball too long and occasional lapses in decision-making under pressure need refinement.
Ward's decision to transfer to Miami for the 2024 season was a strategic move to enhance his draft stock. With another year to develop his skills and showcase his talent, he aims to solidify his position as a viable NFL prospect.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 12, 2024 13:19:57 GMT -5
2 more to watch
Shedeur Sanders - Colorado - 6'2" 215lbs
Shedeur Sanders projects as a high-potential quarterback prospect with the tools to develop into a franchise player. His athletic poise, arm talent, and ability to elevate his supporting cast are highly attractive traits for NFL teams. Sanders has shown he can perform under less-than-ideal circumstances, which speaks to his mental toughness and adaptability.
Teams running offenses that emphasize mobility and playmaking ability outside the pocket will likely be intrigued by Sanders' skill set. His accuracy and decision-making in high-pressure situations could translate well to the NFL, particularly for teams with developing offensive lines.
As Sanders prepares for his final collegiate season, scouts will be focusing on his ability to process information more efficiently, make quicker decisions, and improve his pocket awareness. His performance against top-tier competition will be crucial in determining his draft position.
It's worth noting that there may be factors beyond on-field performance that influence Sanders' eventual draft position, as hinted at by his dad's comments regarding preferred destinations.
Drew Allar - Penn State - 6'5" 235lbs
Allar fits the mold as a high-potential pocket passer with the tools to succeed in a vertical passing game. His arm strength and frame are NFL-ready, but he needs to refine his mechanics and accuracy to reach his full potential. At just 21 as a rookie, Allar has time to develop.
The right scheme will be crucial for Allar's success in the NFL. He could excel in a system that emphasizes play-action and downfield passing. His ability to read defenses and make pre-snap adjustments suggests he could thrive in a pro-style offense that gives him control at the line of scrimmage.
While Allar's upside is intriguing, questions remain about his floor. Improving his footwork, timing, and overall consistency could elevate him into first-round consideration. However, if these issues persist, he might project as a backup with the potential to start. Allar's 2024 season, especially his performance against Ohio State in November, will be massive for his draft stock and long-term NFL prospects.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 12, 2024 13:25:05 GMT -5
Jaxson Dart - Ole Miss - 6'2" 220lbs
Jaxson Dart has shown significant potential as a dual-threat quarterback who can make an impact at the NFL level. His growth at Ole Miss under Lane Kiffin has been notable, and his senior year will be crucial in solidifying his draft stock. Dart's live arm, athleticism, and ability to perform under pressure make him a compelling prospect.
Despite some areas needing improvement, such as decision-making and situational precision, Dart's strengths position him as a candidate for early-round selection. NFL teams will highly value his ability to read defenses pre-snap and his mechanical soundness as a passer.
If Dart continues his upward trajectory, he could command first-round capital in the 2025 NFL Draft. His performance in the upcoming season will be pivotal in determining his future, but his current trajectory suggests he has the potential to be a possible starting quarterback in the NFL.
Jalen Milroe - Alabama - 6'2" 220lbs
Milroe's NFL potential hinges on his ability to harness his raw talents and refine his quarterback skills. His elite athleticism and arm strength will intrigue NFL scouts, but he needs to show significant improvement in his mechanics and decision-making. Milroe could thrive in a system that utilizes his mobility and allows for designed runs and rollouts.
NFL teams will be watching closely to see how Milroe develops under new Alabama head coach Kalen DeBoer, known for his quarterback-friendly offense. If Milroe can make strides in his accuracy and field reading while maintaining his big-play ability, he could elevate his draft stock significantly. His ceiling is that of a dynamic dual-threat NFL starter, but he'll need time and coaching to reach that potential.
Scheme fits that emphasize movement and play-action could maximize Milroe's strengths early in his NFL career. His ability to extend plays and create off-script will be valuable, but he must prove he can consistently win from the pocket to become a starting-level pro QB.
Connor Weigman - Texas A&M - 6'3" 215lbs
Weigman possesses the physical traits and arm talent that will have NFL scouts salivating. His ability to extend plays and create outside structure is reminiscent of some of the league's top young QBs. The way he manipulates the pocket and keeps his eyes downfield while under duress is particularly impressive for his experience level.
However, Weigman remains a projection at this stage due to his limited collegiate sample size. His rawness shows up in inconsistent mechanics and decision-making, particularly when forced off his first read. There are flashes of high-level play, but sustained success against Power 5 competition is yet to be seen.
The 2024 season will be crucial for Weigman's draft stock. If he can stay healthy, showcase improved consistency, and thrive in Klein's offense, he has the potential to climb draft boards rapidly. His blend of arm talent, athleticism, and pocket presence gives him a high ceiling, but he'll need to prove he can put it all together on a week-to-week basis.
Current projection: Day 2 pick with first-round upside. Teams will be closely monitoring his development, as Weigman has the tools to become a franchise-altering talent if he can refine the nuances of the position.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 12, 2024 13:31:19 GMT -5
Will Howard - Ohio State - 6'4" 235lbs
Will Howard shows impressive physical traits with his size and durability, making him a solid presence in the pocket. His arm is solid enough for the pro game, particularly in short and intermediate ranges. He has proven his mobility and toughness as a runner, adding another dimension to his game. Howard's ability to extend plays and make off-platform throws adds value, especially considering his experience in a challenging Kansas State offense.
However, Howard's game is not without its flaws. He lacks elite deep ball velocity and needs to improve his accuracy on short throws. His mechanics can be inconsistent, leading to issues under pressure. Additionally, Howard sometimes relies too heavily on his physical talents, which affects his decision-making and precision. These are areas he must address to succeed at the next level.
With elite talent surrounding him at Ohio State, Howard can make a statement in 2024 as he's now the presumptive starter. He managed to put up solid stats at Kansas State despite limited support, showing resilience and adaptability. If he can polish his mechanics and decision-making, Howard could transition from a mid-to-late-round pick to a reliable NFL backup or even a potential starter. His final season at Ohio State will be crucial in determining his NFL future.
Haynes King - Georgia Tech - 6'3" 205lbs
Good (not elite) arm strength and can easily make all the NFL throws with effortless deep passes. He’s an athlete who runs well and must be accounted for in the read-option game. Sees the field very well when the play breaks down and occasionally changes plays at the line. King must be accounted for when used in the read-option game. He is enough of a threat as a runner to earn respect from back-side defenders at the next level, opening opportunities for running backs. King has a quick release and shows good accuracy on shorter throws when on the move to either side.
King has a bad habit of fading and throwing off his back foot when the pocket gets muddled, and King is too often all arm when throwing on the move, sacrificing accuracy. Very ordinary arm, though there is room for improvement with better technique. Lacks strength to stretch the field horizontally or vertically. Throws too many passes flat-footed or without his feet being set. Sails throws to either sideline; receivers make him look good with acrobatic catches. Back-foot throws are not accurate. Sometimes trusts his arm too much, trying to stick passes late in the play or when off-balance.
Kyle McCord - Syracuse - 6'3" 215lbs
McCord's arm talent flashes NFL potential, but his overall body of work raises concerns. His ability to make anticipatory throws and operate from the pocket are positives. However, his lack of mobility and inconsistent decision-making under pressure are major red flags at the next level.
The limited starting experience at the Power 5 level is evident in McCord's tape. He struggles to consistently elevate his team's performance against top-tier competition. While he can make flashy throws, his inability to consistently execute in crucial situations is a major drawback. His ceiling appears limited by his athletic constraints and decision-making lapses.
McCord faces an uphill battle to stick on an NFL roster. His best path forward may be as a camp arm or practice squad player, where he can develop without the pressure of game action. A patient quarterback coach might see enough raw tools to work with, but McCord will need to show improvement to have a shot at a backup role in the league.
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Post by Aris on Sept 12, 2024 18:34:24 GMT -5
I'm not sold on any of these guys worthy of tanking for, and do not see 6 of the first 12 picks QB this year ...not even close. Beck plays I believe at the Tide the 28th and interested in that one ....he has the size, but the big arm he lacks.....all IMHO. Might make a good system QB with the right coaching. Who knows? Too bad he's not Stafford coming out from Georgia...that was as sure a thing as you can get at QB 1.... so much arm talent. Giants had their chance last draft picking low, and we now have a QB room of 3 utterly useless crappy backups. Nothing in free agency looks good, and this draft looks like a QB reach year. I can't see any ray of hope with this team...I watch these games numb and wonder if we keep our GM and coach, will they pick the right guy in 2025 if they are even here, and will they even have the time allowed to go rookie QB to the improvement to franchise...and TEM can tell us all the odds of that happening being near zilch. IMHO, Joe Schoen can't draft thus far, and sure...neither can I, but I don't get paid to ....and also seems to be missing on a lot of top first round talent, the cornerstones...and you can't be successful missing on so many in the first three rounds each year. I also believe coach Daboll wants a QB that can go vertical, and work off that...IOW, arm talent. When will that happen? Will he have time even if we find one? I will continue to say it forever...even if he busts. JJ was the correct pick last year and he flew right past us.
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Post by Nite on Sept 13, 2024 8:38:30 GMT -5
There is a couple that has potential. Unfortunately due to the perfidy of the FO we HAVE to pick a QB so a reach is possible. I'm not geared towards picking a franchise QB thats how you swing and miss and set the franchise back. All I want is a good starter QB that moves the ball down the field and not turn it over. We don't know how a QB is going to turn out so we should draft one and then the next draft or so draft another in the latter rounds and keep doing so until one pans out. Picking up a journeyman along the way is not a bad move and it will buy us time to focus on other areas. As for the draft itself I was quite surprised that we didn't trade back a few spots in the latter rounds to get more picks. And these extra picks is where you pick up your additional QB. But hey I guess Schoen knows what he is doing, right?
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Post by Analyst on Sept 13, 2024 9:01:08 GMT -5
I'm not sold on any of these guys worthy of tanking for, and do not see 6 of the first 12 picks QB this year ...not even close. Beck plays I believe at the Tide the 28th and interested in that one ....he has the size, but the big arm he lacks.....all IMHO. Might make a good system QB with the right coaching. Who knows? Too bad he's not Stafford coming out from Georgia...that was as sure a thing as you can get at QB 1.... so much arm talent. Giants had their chance last draft picking low, and we now have a QB room of 3 utterly useless crappy backups. Nothing in free agency looks good, and this draft looks like a QB reach year. I can't see any ray of hope with this team...I watch these games numb and wonder if we keep our GM and coach, will they pick the right guy in 2025 if they are even here, and will they even have the time allowed to go rookie QB to the improvement to franchise...and TEM can tell us all the odds of that happening being near zilch. IMHO, Joe Schoen can't draft thus far, and sure...neither can I, but I don't get paid to ....and also seems to be missing on a lot of top first round talent, the cornerstones...and you can't be successful missing on so many in the first three rounds each year. I also believe coach Daboll wants a QB that can go vertical, and work off that...IOW, arm talent. When will that happen? Will he have time even if we find one? I will continue to say it forever...even if he busts. JJ was the correct pick last year and he flew right past us. Honestly, I dont see much of a difference between this class and all the other classes, including 2024. Of those 6 QBs, how many are going to make it? 2? Maybe 3? This class will get 2 or 3 QBs that can make it. Sanders is the high risk high reward. Beck is a most pro ready. Ewers is going to be a gun slinger (Miami now with Tua's career probably over?). Ward could be the rising star IMO. If his game is on point all year, he could be that #1 pick and overtake Beck IMO. The top 3 teams picking could all go QB again. Panthers (Bryce Young looks awful), Giants (You know the deal), Dolphins (Tua is toast). I was not a fan of JJ or Maye. And I saw Wiliams talent, but his personality scared the hell out of me. Plus he struggled vs top teams. Nix I didnt want either. Daniels was the only one I wanted but I knew was raw and needed time to develop.
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Post by Aris on Sept 13, 2024 11:03:49 GMT -5
I'm not sold on any of these guys worthy of tanking for, and do not see 6 of the first 12 picks QB this year ...not even close. Beck plays I believe at the Tide the 28th and interested in that one ....he has the size, but the big arm he lacks.....all IMHO. Might make a good system QB with the right coaching. Who knows? Too bad he's not Stafford coming out from Georgia...that was as sure a thing as you can get at QB 1.... so much arm talent. Giants had their chance last draft picking low, and we now have a QB room of 3 utterly useless crappy backups. Nothing in free agency looks good, and this draft looks like a QB reach year. I can't see any ray of hope with this team...I watch these games numb and wonder if we keep our GM and coach, will they pick the right guy in 2025 if they are even here, and will they even have the time allowed to go rookie QB to the improvement to franchise...and TEM can tell us all the odds of that happening being near zilch. IMHO, Joe Schoen can't draft thus far, and sure...neither can I, but I don't get paid to ....and also seems to be missing on a lot of top first round talent, the cornerstones...and you can't be successful missing on so many in the first three rounds each year. I also believe coach Daboll wants a QB that can go vertical, and work off that...IOW, arm talent. When will that happen? Will he have time even if we find one? I will continue to say it forever...even if he busts. JJ was the correct pick last year and he flew right past us. Honestly, I dont see much of a difference between this class and all the other classes, including 2024. Of those 6 QBs, how many are going to make it? 2? Maybe 3? This class will get 2 or 3 QBs that can make it. Sanders is the high risk high reward. Beck is a most pro ready. Ewers is going to be a gun slinger (Miami now with Tua's career probably over?). Ward could be the rising star IMO. If his game is on point all year, he could be that #1 pick and overtake Beck IMO. The top 3 teams picking could all go QB again. Panthers (Bryce Young looks awful), Giants (You know the deal), Dolphins (Tua is toast). I was not a fan of JJ or Maye. And I saw Wiliams talent, but his personality scared the hell out of me. Plus he struggled vs top teams. Nix I didnt want either. Daniels was the only one I wanted but I knew was raw and needed time to develop. Gonna have to agree to disagree on the talent I see vs last year. Math wise? Yeah, some might make it and we could be doing some math to start a year or two.... like a overrated Pickett year, if you regard what is make, vs bust. Example....Mayfield, we can now say made it...Darnold might still eventually make it...Josh Allen and Jackson absolutely made it...Rosen I guess we can safely say bust. Disagree with JJ and Maye ....talent wise, I don't see anything this year comparable to them thus far in pure QB evaluations...again, my eyesight in actual talent vs math. I also look for arm talent first. Most pro scouts do the same. The only thing that happens each year is the media and NFL will begin to create the names ...those QB names for the draft, and teams will reach for them vs those years where we have actual talent to meet the reach. I thought JJ at 6 was not quite a reach from what I watched, and the fact we needed a QB, with receivers always being gotten in every draft, he was a shock to pass. Allen and Mahomes show that the best NFL QB's have huge arms, but also that they can win games without WR1's....IOW, get the QB right. Gardner Minshew can fool some into believing he is franchise QB, but 4.5 yard average attempts says Daniel Jones. Arm talent followed by mental digestion....college QB's have huge windows many times, and get simple reads. JJ McCarthy ran a pro offense, and had/has a secret canon. Talent wise, teams might reach as you suggest...but that will not give a QB any more talent in his arms or thought processing potential as he enters the league. I simply do not see anything this year at college QB close to what we had last year....not seeing 3 QB's going top three this year at this point...but teams do reach. Hopefully we don't...nor trade up in desperation. Either way, we are in QB hell...and I don't see any college QB that any team would suck for...or tank.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 13, 2024 13:53:39 GMT -5
Every throw from Carson Beck vs Clemson Game 1 for Georgia:
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Post by Aris on Sept 13, 2024 14:51:56 GMT -5
Every throw from Carson Beck vs Clemson Game 1 for Georgia: Looking forward to the game in Tuscaloosa and watching some Jalen Milroe vs Beck. On edit...I watched the game live...what impressed you about Beck?
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Post by Analyst on Sept 14, 2024 7:32:51 GMT -5
Every throw from Carson Beck vs Clemson Game 1 for Georgia: Looking forward to the game in Tuscaloosa and watching some Jalen Milroe vs Beck. On edit...I watched the game live...what impressed you about Beck? Intelligence at the position. Where to go with the ball. Using the field. Accuracy. I watched quite a bit of him last year too. He had some good games vs Tennessee and Alabama. Like you, I'm interested in watching him the rest of the way. It's not locked up yet but as of now he is my #1. Ewers and Ward are still options for me as well. Not sure about Milroe but he is on the radar of course.
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Post by Nite on Sept 14, 2024 9:34:43 GMT -5
Looking forward to the game in Tuscaloosa and watching some Jalen Milroe vs Beck. On edit...I watched the game live...what impressed you about Beck? Intelligence at the position. Where to go with the ball. Using the field. Accuracy. I watched quite a bit of him last year too. He had some good games vs Tennessee and Alabama. Like you, I'm interested in watching him the rest of the way. It's not locked up yet but as of now he is my #1. Ewers and Ward are still options for me as well. Not sure about Milroe but he is on the radar of course. Milroe is a great athlete with a decent arm. Once he gets going especially if he gets loose in the secondary his motor shifts into 2nd and 3rd. That dude is FAST. As for QB skills the jury is still out for me. He could develop.
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Post by Nite on Sept 14, 2024 9:36:29 GMT -5
Looking forward to the game in Tuscaloosa and watching some Jalen Milroe vs Beck. On edit...I watched the game live...what impressed you about Beck? Intelligence at the position. Where to go with the ball. Using the field. Accuracy. I watched quite a bit of him last year too. He had some good games vs Tennessee and Alabama. Like you, I'm interested in watching him the rest of the way. It's not locked up yet but as of now he is my #1. Ewers and Ward are still options for me as well. Not sure about Milroe but he is on the radar of course. I would like him to play Tenn this year if that is possible. See how he does. They have a shut down defence. Top 5 if you ask me. They will be in the playoffs
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Post by Aris on Sept 14, 2024 10:21:13 GMT -5
Looking forward to the game in Tuscaloosa and watching some Jalen Milroe vs Beck. On edit...I watched the game live...what impressed you about Beck? Intelligence at the position. Where to go with the ball. Using the field. Accuracy. I watched quite a bit of him last year too. He had some good games vs Tennessee and Alabama. Like you, I'm interested in watching him the rest of the way. It's not locked up yet but as of now he is my #1. Ewers and Ward are still options for me as well. Not sure about Milroe but he is on the radar of course. What separates him from JJ McCarthy? ...whom you disliked. JJ was all these things, and has a stronger arm. Post snap and pre snap reading is the only unknown, IMHO. This is when Georgia had a true number 1 QB, and an obvious starter and star in the NFL....drooling over that arm talent, and poise. These are real talents at the QB position you actually TANK for....
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 14, 2024 10:52:53 GMT -5
Gotta say, I don't LOVE any of these prospects right now. This will probably change over time, but as of 9/14 all of them give me "Meh" vibes.
Either they have a cannon OR they make good decisions, seems like no QB mentioned has both. The way they describe Beck, he sounds like Wet noodle Chad Pennington, while these other guys sound like they can throw the ball a country mile, but couldn't hit the ocean if they fell out of a boat. To be fair, I haven't watched much of these guys, but I will start paying more attention moving forward, because we all know DJ ain't that guy...
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Post by Aris on Sept 14, 2024 12:54:21 GMT -5
Gotta say, I don't LOVE any of these prospects right now. This will probably change over time, but as of 9/14 all of them give me "Meh" vibes. Either they have a cannon OR they make good decisions, seems like no QB mentioned has both. The way they describe Beck, he sounds like Wet noodle Chad Pennington, while these other guys sound like they can throw the ball a country mile, but couldn't hit the ocean if they fell out of a boat. To be fair, I haven't watched much of these guys, but I will start paying more attention moving forward, because we all know DJ ain't that guy... Nobody to suck for talent wise ....we'll probably end up picking around 3-8 (possibly 1 or 2 if Washington beats us this year)...just have to take whatever guy falls in our laps and hope he takes a huge leap, cause Jones will not start next year
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Post by Analyst on Sept 14, 2024 13:41:56 GMT -5
Intelligence at the position. Where to go with the ball. Using the field. Accuracy. I watched quite a bit of him last year too. He had some good games vs Tennessee and Alabama. Like you, I'm interested in watching him the rest of the way. It's not locked up yet but as of now he is my #1. Ewers and Ward are still options for me as well. Not sure about Milroe but he is on the radar of course. What separates him from JJ McCarthy? ...whom you disliked. JJ was all these things, and has a stronger arm. Post snap and pre snap reading is the only unknown, IMHO. This is when Georgia had a true number 1 QB, and an obvious starter and star in the NFL....drooling over that arm talent, and poise. These are real talents at the QB position you actually TANK for.... JJ to me was just apart of the offense. Never a QB who took charge. Very ordinary. I saw the same with Maye. Sometimes they look like a top of the 1st round QB, but not consistent enough. They might work out. They might not. Evaluating QBs, especially for people like us behind screens, is very difficult. Even for the GMs who scout them. It's tough. There is no Matt Stafford or Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck in this class. Doesn't mean there won't be any great QBs from it though.
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Post by Aris on Sept 14, 2024 14:15:39 GMT -5
What separates him from JJ McCarthy? ...whom you disliked. JJ was all these things, and has a stronger arm. Post snap and pre snap reading is the only unknown, IMHO. This is when Georgia had a true number 1 QB, and an obvious starter and star in the NFL....drooling over that arm talent, and poise. These are real talents at the QB position you actually TANK for.... JJ to me was just apart of the offense. Never a QB who took charge. Very ordinary. I saw the same with Maye. Sometimes they look like a top of the 1st round QB, but not consistent enough. They might work out. They might not. Evaluating QBs, especially for people like us behind screens, is very difficult. Even for the GMs who scout them. It's tough. There is no Matt Stafford or Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck in this class. Doesn't mean there won't be any great QBs from it though. Absolutely...but, are we talking fitting into a system type QB, vs take over a game type? I am pessimistic we have even a GM with a coach and his system going into need to pick our QB next year...and when no said system in place for a QB that might thrive in yes, some sort of said system that plays to his strength, this could be like having an earthquake and avalanche as you climb Mount Everest. We've listed every crappy to decent QB, but most are gonna need a year, and all are going to need a system to have a chance in hell to become anything in the NFL. Instead of a chip shot talent selection at a top 5 pick, we're trying for a 60 yard field goal in Green Bay....against the wind if we have set the coach free. x.com/CFBONFOX/status/1835031633147117832
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 14, 2024 20:15:22 GMT -5
Beck vs Kentucky so far is 😐
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Post by Analyst on Sept 14, 2024 22:26:57 GMT -5
Beck vs Kentucky so far is 😐 It wasn't great. I was watching Arch Manning light it up though at the same time. Sign me up in 2026.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 14, 2024 22:27:32 GMT -5
I definitely don't want this guy. Johnny Manziel vibes.
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Post by Aris on Sept 14, 2024 23:19:48 GMT -5
Beck vs Kentucky so far is 😐 That was some ugly tape for QB1.....only managed the first half as I am watching the UFC, but this is not looking the year to tank for any QB.
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Post by Analyst on Sept 15, 2024 7:11:20 GMT -5
Beck vs Kentucky so far is 😐 That was some ugly tape for QB1.....only managed the first half as I am watching the UFC, but this is not looking the year to tank for any QB. Donyoubknow how many bad games Caleb Williams had last year? A lot. Again, not saying Beck is a lock, and he definitely was off last night, but I'm still not saying there are no QB1s in this draft. That said, I just watched Arch Manning and want to tank in 2025. Lol
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Post by Aris on Sept 15, 2024 8:23:23 GMT -5
That was some ugly tape for QB1.....only managed the first half as I am watching the UFC, but this is not looking the year to tank for any QB. Donyoubknow how many bad games Caleb Williams had last year? A lot. Again, not saying Beck is a lock, and he definitely was off last night, but I'm still not saying there are no QB1s in this draft. That said, I just watched Arch Manning and want to tank in 2025. Lol Difference being Caleb was trying to win games by himself...and at least has the talents to do so regarding arm talent and the ability to throw from different platforms and on the move. Arch looked good, but level of competition and so forth. His mechanics however are already perfect ....let's see where he goes from here and enjoy how many games he will get before the ab injury of Ewers heals. Beck, for me, is all system.....and when I break down some film him I see some positives, but I'm not taking him top 3.
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Post by Nite on Sept 15, 2024 20:08:02 GMT -5
Beck vs Kentucky so far is 😐 It wasn't great. I was watching Arch Manning light it up though at the same time. Sign me up in 2026. If he continues there will be feeding frenzy in 2026
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 15, 2024 20:24:27 GMT -5
How about USC Miller Moss?
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Post by Nite on Sept 15, 2024 22:06:45 GMT -5
The QBs I like so far.. (not in any order)
1) Cam Ward - dude produces yards and points
2) Carson Beck - Not feeling the hype
3) Jaxson Dart (I keeping on thinking of Dodge Darts) completion and points machine AND playing in the SEC
4) Dillon Gabriel - completion machine
5) Noah Fifita - gunslinger. Good and bad
6) Drew Allar - I see him a a solid 3rd or 4th rnd pick backup type of guy
7) Quinn Ewars - Good prospect may make a decent pro
8) Arch Manning - Let the games begin!! (for 2026). If we are in the top spot in 2026 and sum dum team wants him..........
Hmm I guess there are more choices than I thought.. Gotta pull the trigger sometime guys...unless ya;ll enjoy watching sucky QB play
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Aris
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Post by Aris on Sept 16, 2024 6:03:12 GMT -5
The QBs I like so far.. (not in any order) 1) Cam Ward - dude produces yards and points 2) Carson Beck - Not feeling the hype 3) Jaxson Dart (I keeping on thinking of Dodge Darts) completion and points machine AND playing in the SEC 4) Dillon Gabriel - completion machine 5) Noah Fifita - gunslinger. Good and bad 6) Drew Allar - I see him a a solid 3rd or 4th rnd pick backup type of guy 7) Quinn Ewars - Good prospect may make a decent pro 8) Arch Manning - Let the games begin!! (for 2026). If we are in the top spot in 2026 and sum dum team wants him.......... Hmm I guess there are more choices than I thought.. Gotta pull the trigger sometime guys...unless ya;ll enjoy watching sucky QB play Only positive being we will have a QB on a rookie contract. Hopefully we find a diamond in this haystack It is a weak class but you are saying there is a chance...good enough for me
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Post by Analyst on Sept 16, 2024 7:14:12 GMT -5
The QBs I like so far.. (not in any order) 1) Cam Ward - dude produces yards and points 2) Carson Beck - Not feeling the hype 3) Jaxson Dart (I keeping on thinking of Dodge Darts) completion and points machine AND playing in the SEC 4) Dillon Gabriel - completion machine 5) Noah Fifita - gunslinger. Good and bad 6) Drew Allar - I see him a a solid 3rd or 4th rnd pick backup type of guy 7) Quinn Ewars - Good prospect may make a decent pro 8) Arch Manning - Let the games begin!! (for 2026). If we are in the top spot in 2026 and sum dum team wants him.......... Hmm I guess there are more choices than I thought.. Gotta pull the trigger sometime guys...unless ya;ll enjoy watching sucky QB play Beck wasnt good vs Kentucky, Ill give you that, but he has had many other games against top defenses where he played well. Still has 8-9-10 games to prove it.
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Post by Nite on Sept 16, 2024 8:03:37 GMT -5
The QBs I like so far.. (not in any order) 1) Cam Ward - dude produces yards and points 2) Carson Beck - Not feeling the hype 3) Jaxson Dart (I keeping on thinking of Dodge Darts) completion and points machine AND playing in the SEC 4) Dillon Gabriel - completion machine 5) Noah Fifita - gunslinger. Good and bad 6) Drew Allar - I see him a a solid 3rd or 4th rnd pick backup type of guy 7) Quinn Ewars - Good prospect may make a decent pro 8) Arch Manning - Let the games begin!! (for 2026). If we are in the top spot in 2026 and sum dum team wants him.......... Hmm I guess there are more choices than I thought.. Gotta pull the trigger sometime guys...unless ya;ll enjoy watching sucky QB play Only positive being we will have a QB on a rookie contract. Hopefully we find a diamond in this haystack It is a weak class but you are saying there is a chance...good enough for me Theres always a chance until........the Governor forgets to call...
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