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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2024 11:02:25 GMT -5
Terrible pick by Beck at the end but he showed something coming all the way back just think if teh Giants are looking QB which they better be I would like one of the higher ceiling guys. Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde game. He was awful in the first half, then was the Beck everyone was seeing in the 2nd half, but that last pass was bad. Its not going to be easy to rank these QBs. Lots more season left however. Sanders looked good yesterday. Milroe reminds me of a taller Mike Vick, maybe a bit less arm strength, but his style. I heard some comps to Jalen Hurts, but that might be due to the school. I feel like Milroe has more potential to be honest. Needs the right team to develop him and build around his style. I still cant get over that Ryan William TD. I watched it 100 times this morning. Unreal. Against really good defenders too. Made them look stupid. That TD was insane. I think there will be 3 Quality QBs in this class and maybe another 1or2 that will be that guy that is good enough to get to the playoffs but not good enough to win in the playoffs. My prediction might be completely backwards but I'm sticking to it. I agree on Milroe my problem is I have not been able to see enough of any of them what I have seen is pretty good. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2024 11:15:57 GMT -5
Terrible pick by Beck at the end but he showed something coming all the way back just think if teh Giants are looking QB which they better be I would like one of the higher ceiling guys. Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde game. He was awful in the first half, then was the Beck everyone was seeing in the 2nd half, but that last pass was bad. Its not going to be easy to rank these QBs. Lots more season left however. Sanders looked good yesterday. Milroe reminds me of a taller Mike Vick, maybe a bit less arm strength, but his style. I heard some comps to Jalen Hurts, but that might be due to the school. I feel like Milroe has more potential to be honest. Needs the right team to develop him and build around his style. I still cant get over that Ryan William TD. I watched it 100 times this morning. Unreal. Against really good defenders too. Made them look stupid. The thing now with the Giants as a team right now they are much better place for a young QB too land than it has been the last 12 years. That OL is blocking the way you want for a young kid Jones barely gets touched add the kid will hav Nabers Robinson and Hyatt add Tracey who I think is getting ready to start impacting games. This last offseason has turned this team into a much better place for a rookie to start his career the time is now. |
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Post by Analyst on Oct 1, 2024 11:16:18 GMT -5
Here we go.... 6'2" 220 lbs, fast twitchy QB with a very accurate deep ball game.
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Post by Analyst on Oct 3, 2024 8:35:41 GMT -5
The hype on Jalen Milroe is real, the train is starting to move full speed ahead.
NFL Scout: "Jalen Milroe is a better throwing Lamar Jackson. The jump from last year to this year is remarkable. He is a great deep ball thrower."
-Dan Patrick
Im starting to really see the potential with him. Might be EXACTLY what we need.
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Post by piddy283 on Oct 4, 2024 19:44:26 GMT -5
The hype on Jalen Milroe is real, the train is starting to move full speed ahead. NFL Scout: "Jalen Milroe is a better throwing Lamar Jackson. The jump from last year to this year is remarkable. He is a great deep ball thrower." -Dan Patrick Im starting to really see the potential with him. Might be EXACTLY what we need. I imagine a few of these kids are going to shoot up draft boards here soon. Cam Ward has looked good in the little bit I’ve seen, but I don’t hear his name brought up as often as others quite yet. Hopefully the Giants can stay interesting long enough so I don’t feel the need to start watching film on these kids in November like last year. It’d be nice to actually have relevant football to watch until the off-season. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 5, 2024 7:50:35 GMT -5
The hype on Jalen Milroe is real, the train is starting to move full speed ahead. NFL Scout: "Jalen Milroe is a better throwing Lamar Jackson. The jump from last year to this year is remarkable. He is a great deep ball thrower." -Dan Patrick Im starting to really see the potential with him. Might be EXACTLY what we need. BS I say. Put a name to it media. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 5, 2024 7:56:55 GMT -5
Here we go.... 6'2" 220 lbs, fast twitchy QB with a very accurate deep ball game. you cannot make this shiat up. Talk of him going #1 overall and the 1st highlight is an underthrown pass in which a 17 yr old phenom scores a TD. Then they show him running, which nobody cares about, and continue showing the same underthown ball to a 17 yr old from multiple angles. |
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Post by imgrate on Oct 5, 2024 15:31:02 GMT -5
Here we go.... 6'2" 220 lbs, fast twitchy QB with a very accurate deep ball game. you cannot make this shiat up. Talk of him going #1 overall and the 1st highlight is an underthrown pass in which a 17 yr old phenom scores a TD. Then they show him running, which nobody cares about, and continue showing the same underthown ball to a 17 yr old from multiple angles. I haven’t watched him this year, but was very underwhelmed by milroe in the games that i watched him last year |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 12, 2024 22:03:45 GMT -5
Tonight Gabriel and Howard both showed out excellent game I have liked Gabriel since UCF might be a decent sleeper or riser doesn't have he size but looks pretty sharp.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 12, 2024 22:14:00 GMT -5
The hype on Jalen Milroe is real, the train is starting to move full speed ahead. NFL Scout: "Jalen Milroe is a better throwing Lamar Jackson. The jump from last year to this year is remarkable. He is a great deep ball thrower." -Dan Patrick Im starting to really see the potential with him. Might be EXACTLY what we need. I imagine a few of these kids are going to shoot up draft boards here soon. Cam Ward has looked good in the little bit I’ve seen, but I don’t hear his name brought up as often as others quite yet. Hopefully the Giants can stay interesting long enough so I don’t feel the need to start watching film on these kids in November like last year. It’d be nice to actually have relevant football to watch until the off-season. There will be some solid options just watched OSU and Oregon those 2 kids Howard and Gabriel are not perfect prospects but might be options a little later when I say a little i mean like RD 2 if they don't climb |
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Post by imgrate on Oct 13, 2024 9:47:48 GMT -5
Tonight Gabriel and Howard both showed out excellent game I have liked Gabriel since UCF might be a decent sleeper or riser doesn't have he size but looks pretty sharp. Not a big fan of Gabriel. Doesnt have a live arm and for a shorter qb, isn’t notably quick or fast |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 13, 2024 11:02:01 GMT -5
Tonight Gabriel and Howard both showed out excellent game I have liked Gabriel since UCF might be a decent sleeper or riser doesn't have he size but looks pretty sharp. Not a big fan of Gabriel. Doesnt have a live arm and for a shorter qb, isn’t notably quick or fast Neither does Purdy this would be a late rounder somewhere between 2 and 4. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 13, 2024 11:07:42 GMT -5
Tonight Gabriel and Howard both showed out excellent game I have liked Gabriel since UCF might be a decent sleeper or riser doesn't have he size but looks pretty sharp. Not a big fan of Gabriel. Doesnt have a live arm and for a shorter qb, isn’t notably quick or fast i have been reading a lot about Nussmieir now I see what they are talking about he throws guys open with anticipation, I was going back and forth with OSU Oregon and LSU / Ol'miss he has somethings guys don't come with all the time. |
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Post by Analyst on Oct 13, 2024 23:01:55 GMT -5
Anyone.
Doesn't even matter anymore.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2024 8:35:30 GMT -5
Wasn’t a fan of this draft class last year and I’m losing even more confidence in them each week.
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Post by lt56 on Oct 16, 2024 16:01:43 GMT -5
jokingly took Carson Beck off the board after that Bama game lol but seriously he can still sling that ball and will have the opportunity to redeem himself starting this Saturday vs #1 Texas but I still like his Physical Tools
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Post by Analyst on Oct 20, 2024 8:50:06 GMT -5
Cam Ward.
Thats the only QB looking good right now... lol
I do really like him though.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 9:20:10 GMT -5
Cam Ward. Thats the only QB looking good right now... lol I do really like him though. Still not a fan of Ward and Beck and Ewers looking awful. This draft class is as bad as advertised IMO. I’m not saying one of these guys may surprise but if the bust rate is high for a “loaded” QB class like last year, finding a good QB in this years class is really finding a needle in the haystack. It will wuck if we have a high draft pick with no QB’s, which is why I still think we should have taken a shot with one last year. Unless one of these guys drastically changes over the next 6 weeks, I wouldn’t mind a bridge QB but that’s still just kicking the can down the road and wasting valuable years of some of our best players. |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 9:21:11 GMT -5
Wasn’t a fan of this draft class last year and I’m losing even more confidence in them each week. If you thought this a week ago, which I did as well, I hope you didn’t watch yesterday’s games. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 20, 2024 9:59:06 GMT -5
Cam Ward. Thats the only QB looking good right now... lol I do really like him though. Still not a fan of Ward and Beck and Ewers looking awful. This draft class is as bad as advertised IMO. I’m not saying one of these guys may surprise but if the bust rate is high for a “loaded” QB class like last year, finding a good QB in this years class is really finding a needle in the haystack. It will wuck if we have a high draft pick with no QB’s, which is why I still think we should have taken a shot with one last year. Unless one of these guys drastically changes over the next 6 weeks, I wouldn’t mind a bridge QB but that’s still just kicking the can down the road and wasting valuable years of some of our best players. I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. |
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Post by Nite on Oct 20, 2024 10:21:17 GMT -5
Still not a fan of Ward and Beck and Ewers looking awful. This draft class is as bad as advertised IMO. I’m not saying one of these guys may surprise but if the bust rate is high for a “loaded” QB class like last year, finding a good QB in this years class is really finding a needle in the haystack. It will wuck if we have a high draft pick with no QB’s, which is why I still think we should have taken a shot with one last year. Unless one of these guys drastically changes over the next 6 weeks, I wouldn’t mind a bridge QB but that’s still just kicking the can down the road and wasting valuable years of some of our best players. I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. I like the idea of paying a competent journeyman for a 2 year deal before the draft then carefully selecting your QB from rounds 1 - 3.Like you said we don't know what a good one looks like but if we got a sleeper in the later rounds and the vet can tutor him then its not a bad deal. If that doesn't pan out then repeat the sequence until one hits (or Mara sells the team lol) |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 20, 2024 10:21:25 GMT -5
Wasn’t a fan of this draft class last year and I’m losing even more confidence in them each week. If you thought this a week ago, which I did as well, I hope you didn’t watch yesterday’s games. Awful |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 10:31:45 GMT -5
Still not a fan of Ward and Beck and Ewers looking awful. This draft class is as bad as advertised IMO. I’m not saying one of these guys may surprise but if the bust rate is high for a “loaded” QB class like last year, finding a good QB in this years class is really finding a needle in the haystack. It will wuck if we have a high draft pick with no QB’s, which is why I still think we should have taken a shot with one last year. Unless one of these guys drastically changes over the next 6 weeks, I wouldn’t mind a bridge QB but that’s still just kicking the can down the road and wasting valuable years of some of our best players. I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. I get it and normally I’m a proponent but this years class looks like straight up shit to me. I’m not saying one of them won’t work out, one probably will, but I wouldn’t take the gamble this year. I would have last year but not this year with these options. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 20, 2024 10:32:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. I like the idea of paying a competent journeyman for a 2 year deal before the draft then carefully selecting your QB from rounds 1 - 3.Like you said we don't know what a good one looks like but if we got a sleeper in the later rounds and the vet can tutor him then its not a bad deal. If that doesn't pan out then repeat the sequence until one hits (or Mara sells the team lol) I guess it depends on how much you pay them. I am having a hard time remembering examples of this and how successful this method is. How often does this actually work out? Can you or anyone can cite some examples of getting a journeyman QB to tutor a rookie and the rookie starting the following year or at some point and immediatley winning games. It would help provide evidence for me to consider this option. I sure they exist but if it was a proven method it would be used more often. |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 10:33:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. I like the idea of paying a competent journeyman for a 2 year deal before the draft then carefully selecting your QB from rounds 1 - 3.Like you said we don't know what a good one looks like but if we got a sleeper in the later rounds and the vet can tutor him then its not a bad deal. If that doesn't pan out then repeat the sequence until one hits (or Mara sells the team lol) Maybe…I just cringe to think what sleeper would be available in the later rounds if the “top” 3-4 are Beck, Ewers, Ward and Sanders. Sanders still looks the best IMO but who would want to deal with him, his dad and all the baggage that comes along with both of them? Not me. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 20, 2024 10:45:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind getting a rookie in on the cheap. No one know who the perfect QB is or how they look like. Look at Purdy, Mahomes and even Jayden this year. You have takes chances and learn to fail quick and move on. Paying known commodities isn't going to move the needle but it might make us average. Good teams know how to use and maneuver thier draft picks. Bad teams are constantly paying other teams leftovers. I get it and normally I’m a proponent but this years class looks like straight up shit to me. I’m not saying one of them won’t work out, one probably will, but I wouldn’t take the gamble this year. I would have last year but not this year with these options. Just curious which year QB class didn't look that bad to you before they were drafted? |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 12:09:42 GMT -5
I get it and normally I’m a proponent but this years class looks like straight up shit to me. I’m not saying one of them won’t work out, one probably will, but I wouldn’t take the gamble this year. I would have last year but not this year with these options. Just curious which year QB class didn't look that bad to you before they were drafted? They always have guys I don’t think will do good and do and vice versa. But to answer your question, I thought last years class was good. I liked Damiels, didn’t like Maye, iffy on Williams at best. Liked Penix until the National Championship game and his injuries were a big concern, didn’t know what to expect from McCarthy. I realize every draft class is going to have hits and misses but overall, with all the options available, I thought last year's class had the best chance of hitting on one or two franchise QB’s, if not more. This years class, maybe they get one? I don’t like the odds. |
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Post by Nite on Oct 20, 2024 16:29:11 GMT -5
I like the idea of paying a competent journeyman for a 2 year deal before the draft then carefully selecting your QB from rounds 1 - 3.Like you said we don't know what a good one looks like but if we got a sleeper in the later rounds and the vet can tutor him then its not a bad deal. If that doesn't pan out then repeat the sequence until one hits (or Mara sells the team lol) I guess it depends on how much you pay them. I am having a hard time remembering examples of this and how successful this method is. How often does this actually work out? Can you or anyone can cite some examples of getting a journeyman QB to tutor a rookie and the rookie starting the following year or at some point and immediatley winning games. It would help provide evidence for me to consider this option. I sure they exist but if it was a proven method it would be used more often. It has I'm just too lazy to look it up. lol. Well then if one doesn't want to go this route this push your chips to the middle of the table and pick: Cam Ward, Gabriel Dillon, Jeff Beck, Jaxson Dart and see what happens. If we are in this situation (and it looks like that today) then we pick one...But the statist will say: "But Oh you can't force a pick!" My response is that not selecting one WILL keep us in QB hell..guaranteed |
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Post by Nite on Oct 20, 2024 16:32:09 GMT -5
I like the idea of paying a competent journeyman for a 2 year deal before the draft then carefully selecting your QB from rounds 1 - 3.Like you said we don't know what a good one looks like but if we got a sleeper in the later rounds and the vet can tutor him then its not a bad deal. If that doesn't pan out then repeat the sequence until one hits (or Mara sells the team lol) Maybe…I just cringe to think what sleeper would be available in the later rounds if the “top” 3-4 are Beck, Ewers, Ward and Sanders. Sanders still looks the best IMO but who would want to deal with him, his dad and all the baggage that comes along with both of them? Not me. Breathe Vinnie  You forgot that completion machine Gabriel up in Oregon (80% last game) and then there is Jaxson Dart in Ole Miss. There will be a couple to choose from by the end of the year and some surprises too... |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 20, 2024 16:53:15 GMT -5
Maybe…I just cringe to think what sleeper would be available in the later rounds if the “top” 3-4 are Beck, Ewers, Ward and Sanders. Sanders still looks the best IMO but who would want to deal with him, his dad and all the baggage that comes along with both of them? Not me. Breathe Vinnie You forgot that completion machine Gabriel up in Oregon (80% last game) and then there is Jaxson Dart in Ole Miss. There will be a couple to choose from by the end of the year and some surprises too... We’ll see, I honestly haven’t watched either of those two because I’ve been spending time watching Beck, Ewers, Sanders and to a small degree Ward. Definitely will start looking at them though. Seen enough of Ewers and Beck 🤢 |
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You forgot that completion machine Gabriel up in Oregon (80% last game) and then there is Jaxson Dart in Ole Miss. There will be a couple to choose from by the end of the year and some surprises too...