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Post by armyvet2023 on Sept 30, 2024 10:02:18 GMT -5
So I am curious on how much Mara would be willing give up to get this kid when he enters the draft in 2 years? Would he keep Jones another year so he can draft him? I mean it would make no sense to draft a qb next year to just turn around and draft another one. I mean Mara drafted Jones because he said he reminds him of Eli. You cant more of a manning than arch.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 30, 2024 10:07:14 GMT -5
Arch has done some good things but maybe we should let Arch earn a starting job in college first because right now he's a college backup.
And the fan base wants a new QB now, not in 2 years.
There is no guarantee Arch would be available next year anyway.
If Daniels, Maye, or Williams were available for us this year they would be the QB of the NYG now.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 30, 2024 10:21:47 GMT -5
So I am curious on how much Mara would be willing give up to get this kid when he enters the draft in 2 years? Would he keep Jones another year so he can draft him? I mean it would make no sense to draft a qb next year to just turn around and draft another one. I mean Mara drafted Jones because he said he reminds him of Eli. You cant more of a manning than arch. And that's where he ****ed up..................  from a classic |
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Post by Analyst on Sept 30, 2024 10:35:08 GMT -5
Arch has done some good things but maybe we should let Arch earn a starting job in college first because right now he's a college backup. And the fan base wants a new QB now, not in 2 years. There is no guarantee Arch would be available next year anyway. If Daniels, Maye, or Williams were available for us this year they would be the QB of the NYG now. I knew Id eventually agree with you on something. As much as I would love Arch the way he looks right now, we cant tank 2 seasons, in HOPES he even declares in 2026. He could declare in 2027. Cam Ward, Jalen Milroe, Carson Beck, Quin Ewers, Shaduer Sanders are the targets right now. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 30, 2024 10:49:33 GMT -5
So I am curious on how much Mara would be willing give up to get this kid when he enters the draft in 2 years? Would he keep Jones another year so he can draft him? I mean it would make no sense to draft a qb next year to just turn around and draft another one. I mean Mara drafted Jones because he said he reminds him of Eli. You cant more of a manning than arch. We missed the QB class this year, there isn't suppose to be any type QB phenoms next year. So maybe DJ is 50-50 in staying but I think they let him walk. We sign a QB to bridge us a year say Minchew or someone like him. Now that means tanking another year by not giving the HC a product to win with. Not that I'm a fan of Dabol but that's another thread, I don't feel like going into now. But you have to give a HC something to work with to judge him fairly. We aren't going to have a winning team with DJ. We were lucky to beat the Browns we might not have another win until after the 10th week of the season. And lets see if this Arch Manning is all he's advertised to be in college. |
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 30, 2024 10:58:04 GMT -5
I’d bet arch stays the full time in school. He doesn’t need the money, and, his nil valuation is 3+ million.
Some mediocre options on the fa market as a bridge qb, Darnold, Brissett, Mariota.
If that’s the plan I’d be ok with it.
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 30, 2024 11:04:35 GMT -5
Mara didn't draft Jones and won't draft Arch. The GM does that. We all watched Mara go into Schoens office and say he wants Barkley on this team only for Schoen to not even try to sign him lol. The myth of Mara being a puppet master should be gone.
With that said I like Arch, he needs to develop more though. Quinn Ewers is the best IMO and would be my choice if for some reason we NEED to draft a QB this year. I honestly don't see that happening though.
Would be awesome to have another Manning on the team though. Some posters here would lose their ****ing minds.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 30, 2024 11:12:37 GMT -5
There is a thread in the draft section on this.....
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 30, 2024 11:20:27 GMT -5
We could give up the farm.. the barn.. and all of the livestock.. Hell, we could throw in Jones for fertilizer. And we’ll still end up left out in the cold. That’s prime real estate.. The Manning name carries a lot of weight. They’re the Rockefeller's of the gridiron. Only way to get in on that deal is to give them an offer they can’t refuse.
Now, before we hire some killers to break some kneecaps or give them a one way ticket to the bottom of a volcano. We can stop the gallons of blood we lost the past six years with a stop gap. With the resurgence of Sam Darnold.. Teams can now wait till they have their target in sight. Before they pull the trigger. We already hyperextended our arm and tore ligaments reaching for Jones.
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Post by Providence on Sept 30, 2024 11:40:42 GMT -5
Arch hasn't done shit yet, so none of this matters. But, if he continues to progress and stays healthy, then we should beg, borrow, and steal whatever we must to get him. There are no guarantees in football, especially with first round QBs. But, if there is any predictor of success in the NFL, it's the last name of Manning.
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Post by inthezone on Sept 30, 2024 11:48:30 GMT -5
Arch has done some good things but maybe we should let Arch earn a starting job in college first because right now he's a college backup.And the fan base wants a new QB now, not in 2 years. There is no guarantee Arch would be available next year anyway. If Daniels, Maye, or Williams were available for us this year they would be the QB of the NYG now. He played the last few games and won them for the Longhorns with 8 TDs and 2 INts. |
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Post by inthezone on Sept 30, 2024 11:51:16 GMT -5
Arch hasn't done shit yet, so none of this matters. But, if he continues to progress and stays healthy, then we should beg, borrow, and steal whatever we must to get him. There are no guarantees in football, especially with first round QBs. But, if there is any predictor of success in the NFL, it's the last name of Manning. Not sure what he has to do to be shit but he's playing pretty good right now. The competition might be shit I don't know but he has 8TDs with only 2 Ints these past three games. Also ran 67 yards for a 1 TD. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 30, 2024 12:02:53 GMT -5
I’d bet arch stays the full time in school. He doesn’t need the money, and, his nil valuation is 3+ million. Some mediocre options on the fa market as a bridge qb, Darnold, Brissett, Mariota. If that’s the plan I’d be ok with it. Say what lol.................??????????? |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 30, 2024 12:10:05 GMT -5
Arch has done some good things but maybe we should let Arch earn a starting job in college first because right now he's a college backup.And the fan base wants a new QB now, not in 2 years. There is no guarantee Arch would be available next year anyway. If Daniels, Maye, or Williams were available for us this year they would be the QB of the NYG now. He played the last few games and won them for the Longhorns with 8 TDs and 2 INts. I’ve watched both games and have liked what I’ve seen but you can’t ignore the competition he was playing against. |
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Post by inthezone on Sept 30, 2024 12:15:47 GMT -5
He played the last few games and won them for the Longhorns with 8 TDs and 2 INts. I’ve watched both games and have liked what I’ve seen but you can’t ignore the competition he was playing against. I'm with you he needs to keep playing like this especially against the better teams. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 30, 2024 12:21:15 GMT -5
I’ve watched both games and have liked what I’ve seen but you can’t ignore the competition he was playing against. I'm with you he needs to keep playing like this especially against the better teams. Unfortunately, we probably won’t find out until next year barring another Ewers injury. Ewers is supposed to be back for OU and unless he’s not 100%, I don’t see Sark letting Manning stay under center. |
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Post by te88 on Sept 30, 2024 12:30:17 GMT -5
Arch has done some good things but maybe we should let Arch earn a starting job in college first because right now he's a college backup. And the fan base wants a new QB now, not in 2 years. There is no guarantee Arch would be available next year anyway. If Daniels, Maye, or Williams were available for us this year they would be the QB of the NYG now. I knew Id eventually agree with you on something. As much as I would love Arch the way he looks right now, we cant tank 2 seasons, in HOPES he even declares in 2026. He could declare in 2027. Cam Ward, Jalen Milroe, Carson Beck, Quin Ewers, Shaduer Sanders are the targets right now. Don’t think Deion would let his son play for the Giants. |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 30, 2024 12:33:49 GMT -5
We could give up the farm.. the barn.. and all of the livestock.. Hell, we could throw in Jones for fertilizer. And we’ll still end up left out in the cold. That’s prime real estate.. The Manning name carries a lot of weight. They’re the Rockefeller's of the gridiron. Only way to get in on that deal is to give them an offer they can’t refuse. Now, before we hire some killers to break some kneecaps or give them a one way ticket to the bottom of a volcano. We can stop the gallons of blood we lost the past six years with a stop gap. With the resurgence of Sam Darnold.. Teams can now wait till they have their target in sight. Before they pull the trigger. We already hyperextended our arm and tore ligaments reaching for Jones. Just curious. What are you willing to realistically give up for Sam Darnold? With that said what would it take for the Vikings to be ok with trading him. As it looks right now he is leading them to the #1 seed, doubt they'd trade him if this keeps going. I heard one show say that if Darnold proves himself the Vikings might have to trade JJ away. I'm not too keen trading much away to get a kid we didn't want last year. |
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Post by Analyst on Sept 30, 2024 12:46:48 GMT -5
I knew Id eventually agree with you on something. As much as I would love Arch the way he looks right now, we cant tank 2 seasons, in HOPES he even declares in 2026. He could declare in 2027. Cam Ward, Jalen Milroe, Carson Beck, Quin Ewers, Shaduer Sanders are the targets right now. Don’t think Deion would let his son play for the Giants. Thats fine, if he is the best player available when they pick, they take him anyway. Pull a SD and Eli move if they have to. |
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 30, 2024 12:47:00 GMT -5
I’d bet arch stays the full time in school. He doesn’t need the money, and, his nil valuation is 3+ million. Some mediocre options on the fa market as a bridge qb, Darnold, Brissett, Mariota. If that’s the plan I’d be ok with it. Say what lol.................??????????? I need to see more than 4 games. If he continues at this pace obviously he’s not mediocre, but price might be an issue as we would still owe jones 25 million in dead cap |
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 30, 2024 12:53:09 GMT -5
We could give up the farm.. the barn.. and all of the livestock.. Hell, we could throw in Jones for fertilizer. And we’ll still end up left out in the cold. That’s prime real estate.. The Manning name carries a lot of weight. They’re the Rockefeller's of the gridiron. Only way to get in on that deal is to give them an offer they can’t refuse. Now, before we hire some killers to break some kneecaps or give them a one way ticket to the bottom of a volcano. We can stop the gallons of blood we lost the past six years with a stop gap. With the resurgence of Sam Darnold.. Teams can now wait till they have their target in sight. Before they pull the trigger. We already hyperextended our arm and tore ligaments reaching for Jones. Just curious. What are you willing to realistically give up for Sam Darnold? With that said what would it take for the Vikings to be ok with trading him. As it looks right now he is leading them to the #1 seed, doubt they'd trade him if this keeps going. I heard one show say that if Darnold proves himself the Vikings might have to trade JJ away. I'm not too keen trading much away to get a kid we didn't want last year. Darnold is a free agent this spring. Vikes have a shiny new draft pick waiting. There’ll be a bidding war if he keeps it up |
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Post by lt56 on Sept 30, 2024 12:54:03 GMT -5
yeah that is looking WAY too far ahead, also too I'm sure The Manning's and even Arch himself would probably prefer to go elsewhere and create his own Legacy just like he did not pick Tennessee or Ole Miss where his Uncles Played
Arch still haven't proven anything yet though so need to see more especially vs better competition
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 30, 2024 12:54:38 GMT -5
Say what lol.................??????????? I need to see more than 4 games. If he continues at this pace obviously he’s not mediocre, but price might be an issue as we would still owe jones 25 million in dead cap that's fair..... |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 30, 2024 12:54:44 GMT -5
I knew Id eventually agree with you on something. As much as I would love Arch the way he looks right now, we cant tank 2 seasons, in HOPES he even declares in 2026. He could declare in 2027. Cam Ward, Jalen Milroe, Carson Beck, Quin Ewers, Shaduer Sanders are the targets right now. Don’t think Deion would let his son play for the Giants. It may not be the glitz and glam of Los Angeles but it is a huge market with tons of alternative revenue streams. |
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Post by Providence on Sept 30, 2024 13:03:01 GMT -5
Arch hasn't done shit yet, so none of this matters. But, if he continues to progress and stays healthy, then we should beg, borrow, and steal whatever we must to get him. There are no guarantees in football, especially with first round QBs. But, if there is any predictor of success in the NFL, it's the last name of Manning. Not sure what he has to do to be shit but he's playing pretty good right now. The competition might be shit I don't know but he has 8TDs with only 2 Ints these past three games. Also ran 67 yards for a 1 TD. I guess what I mean is that he hasn't shown any sustained success. Three games is awesome. If he can sustain great play over the next 1.5-2.5 years, now we're talking. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 30, 2024 13:47:27 GMT -5
We could give up the farm.. the barn.. and all of the livestock.. Hell, we could throw in Jones for fertilizer. And we’ll still end up left out in the cold. That’s prime real estate.. The Manning name carries a lot of weight. They’re the Rockefeller's of the gridiron. Only way to get in on that deal is to give them an offer they can’t refuse. Now, before we hire some killers to break some kneecaps or give them a one way ticket to the bottom of a volcano. We can stop the gallons of blood we lost the past six years with a stop gap. With the resurgence of Sam Darnold.. Teams can now wait till they have their target in sight. Before they pull the trigger. We already hyperextended our arm and tore ligaments reaching for Jones. Just curious. What are you willing to realistically give up for Sam Darnold? With that said what would it take for the Vikings to be ok with trading him. As it looks right now he is leading them to the #1 seed, doubt they'd trade him if this keeps going. I heard one show say that if Darnold proves himself the Vikings might have to trade JJ away. I'm not too keen trading much away to get a kid we didn't want last year. The best thing that ever happened to him besides getting out from under the Jets thumb.. Was his year working under Kyle Shanahan. The apple didn’t fall far from the Shanahan orchard. Those guys know how to develop and push out quarterbacks like an assembly line. The once down and out quarterback is showcasing why so many teams were on the campaign trail for the suck for Sam sweepstakes. People forget.. He’s only 27 years old. |
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Post by southerner on Sept 30, 2024 13:55:11 GMT -5
So I am curious on how much Mara would be willing give up to get this kid when he enters the draft in 2 years? Would he keep Jones another year so he can draft him? I mean it would make no sense to draft a qb next year to just turn around and draft another one. I mean Mara drafted Jones because he said he reminds him of Eli. You cant more of a manning than arch. Arch is second string in college, behind a guy who is good, but no show stopper. To wait for two years for any player is stupid. The Giants WILL draft a QB in the first round of the 2025 draft, unless they think there are no good prospects…….but DJ is gone after this season regardless of what they do. They will go with some old veteran before they go with $40+ Million porcelain doll that has a noodle arm again. |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 30, 2024 14:14:03 GMT -5
Just curious. What are you willing to realistically give up for Sam Darnold? With that said what would it take for the Vikings to be ok with trading him. As it looks right now he is leading them to the #1 seed, doubt they'd trade him if this keeps going. I heard one show say that if Darnold proves himself the Vikings might have to trade JJ away. I'm not too keen trading much away to get a kid we didn't want last year. Darnold is a free agent this spring. Vikes have a shiny new draft pick waiting. There’ll be a bidding war if he keeps it up Yeah it was a question to see what people would give up. They 1000% are not letting Darnold walk out of that building if they stay on this course. |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 30, 2024 14:16:27 GMT -5
The best thing that ever happened to him besides getting out from under the Jets thumb.. Was his year working under Kyle Shanahan. The apple didn’t fall far from the Shanahan orchard. Those guys know how to develop and push out quarterbacks like an assembly line. The once down and out quarterback is showcasing why so many teams were on the campaign trail for the suck for Sam sweepstakes. People forget.. He’s only 27 years old. Matt Simms made a comment on his show the other day that teams no longer draft their franchise QB, they draft the next teams franchise QB. There simply is not enough time given to develop these guys anymore, or even worse they have people trying to develop them that can't. |
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Post by Jomo on Sept 30, 2024 16:56:33 GMT -5
Our c e o would be stupid enough to draft someone based on their last name just like he hired.Dave Gettleman, based on a prior relationship with him. That is no f****** way to run a franchise and he needs to steer clear of talent evaluation.
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