|
|
Post by believernyg10 on Jun 20, 2018 11:37:03 GMT -5
Shepard's stats are manufactured. Latimer is the more explosive playmaker. Last off season it was John Jerry . This year it is Latimer . Who will it be next year ? What are u talking about? Latimer is a better outside WR than Shepard In Shurmur's scheme, there will be more 2 TE 2 WR sets Latimer is a better option as an outside WR than Shepard Shepard needs a free release from the slot to be effective. Do u understand football? At all? |
|
|
|
Post by TEM on Jun 20, 2018 11:40:46 GMT -5
Last off season it was John Jerry . This year it is Latimer . Who will it be next year ? What are u talking about? Latimer is a better outside WR than Shepard In Shurmur's scheme, there will be more 2 TE 2 WR sets Latimer is a better option as an outside WR than Shepard Shepard needs a free release from the slot to be effective. Do you understand football? At all? What am I talking about. What you do . To attempt to create a narrative that make people interact with you. I don't understand why or even care. I was just pointing out what you are did last offseason and are doing with the current one. |
|
|
|
Post by believernyg10 on Jun 20, 2018 11:45:34 GMT -5
What are u talking about? Latimer is a better outside WR than Shepard In Shurmur's scheme, there will be more 2 TE 2 WR sets Latimer is a better option as an outside WR than Shepard Shepard needs a free release from the slot to be effective. Do you understand football? At all? What am I talking about. What you do . To attempt to create a narrative that make people interact with you. I don't understand why or even care. I was just pointing out what you are did last offseason and are doing with the current one. There is absolutely zero correlation between John Jerry and Cody Latimer. U are not making one iota of sense. |
|
|
|
Post by believernyg10 on Jun 20, 2018 11:48:29 GMT -5
Why is it such an outlandish narrative to think that Latimer will be more effective as an OUTSIDE RECEIVER than Shepard?
Latimer is 6'2 215 with 4.38 speed, phenomenal blocker
Shepard is 5'10 194, not explosive, and not nearly the blocker Latimer is.
Latimer was signed to play on the outside. He is Marshall's replacement.
|
|
|
|
Post by TEM on Jun 20, 2018 11:50:47 GMT -5
What am I talking about. What you do . To attempt to create a narrative that make people interact with you. I don't understand why or even care. I was just pointing out what you are did last offseason and are doing with the current one. There is absolutely zero correlation between John Jerry and Cody Latimer. U are not making one iota of sense. It does everyone but you |
|
|
|
Post by believernyg10 on Jun 20, 2018 11:53:05 GMT -5
There is absolutely zero correlation between John Jerry and Cody Latimer. U are not making one iota of sense. It does everyone but you Ok |
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 20, 2018 12:12:34 GMT -5
There is absolutely zero correlation between John Jerry and Cody Latimer. U are not making one iota of sense. It does everyone but you Makes sense to me. |
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 20, 2018 12:13:01 GMT -5
Glad to have you on board. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 16:30:51 GMT -5
Why is it such an outlandish narrative to think that Latimer will be more effective as an OUTSIDE RECEIVER than Shepard? Latimer is 6'2 215 with 4.38 speed, phenomenal blocker Shepard is 5'10 194, not explosive, and not nearly the blocker Latimer is. Latimer was signed to play on the outside. He is Marshall's replacement. 1. You just switched your argument mid debate. You originally said that Latimer is the 2nd best WR on the team. Now you're introducing the "outside" WR caveat. 2. If you believe anything that you're saying about this then you should turn in your medical marijuana card. |
|
|
|
Post by believernyg10 on Jun 20, 2018 17:49:40 GMT -5
Why is it such an outlandish narrative to think that Latimer will be more effective as an OUTSIDE RECEIVER than Shepard? Latimer is 6'2 215 with 4.38 speed, phenomenal blocker Shepard is 5'10 194, not explosive, and not nearly the blocker Latimer is. Latimer was signed to play on the outside. He is Marshall's replacement. 1. You just switched your argument mid debate. You originally said that Latimer is the 2nd best WR on the team. Now you're introducing the "outside" WR caveat. 2. If you believe anything that you're saying about this then you should turn in your medical marijuana card. Latimer > Shepard. Latimer has a superior skill-set for a WR than Shepard. Shepard is a slot receiver only. On the outside, he is easily covered. Both were drafted in the 2nd round. The only difference, is opportunity. Latimer had Demaryious Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders ahead of him on the depth chart, as outside WRs. So of course Latimer was going to be underutilized. In 2 WR sets, in Shurmur's offense, Latimer will see the field more than Shepard due to his ability to beat press coverage and ability to block. Latimer > Shepard this year |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 18:32:00 GMT -5
Simple question:
How many games did you watch Latimer play in?
|
|
|
|
Post by Kase1 on Jul 28, 2018 12:12:21 GMT -5
1. You just switched your argument mid debate. You originally said that Latimer is the 2nd best WR on the team. Now you're introducing the "outside" WR caveat. 2. If you believe anything that you're saying about this then you should turn in your medical marijuana card. Latimer > Shepard. Latimer has a superior skill-set for a WR than Shepard. Shepard is a slot receiver only. On the outside, he is easily covered. Both were drafted in the 2nd round. The only difference, is opportunity. Latimer had Demaryious Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders ahead of him on the depth chart, as outside WRs. So of course Latimer was going to be underutilized. In 2 WR sets, in Shurmur's offense, Latimer will see the field more than Shepard due to his ability to beat press coverage and ability to block. Latimer > Shepard this year Let me start by saying I was a big fan of Latimer coming out of college, i thought he would be a great big body sure handed posession type of player, so far he hasnt put it together in the pros. To go so far as saying he is better than Sheppard is a little much, Shep has put together a decent career im the pros so far, as for Latimer not so much. I feel like they will both have a good season, how cant you with Odell, Engram, and Barkley o n the field with ya |
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jul 28, 2018 12:39:59 GMT -5
Ellison will catch more passes than Latimer. If this indeed happens it's an awesome thing because not only does it mean the Giants were in the 12 formation a majority of the time,it also means they moved the ball up and down the field in it and were not in many situations where they needed 3 WRs on the field(behind big or late,3rd and longs,ect) |
|
|
|
Post by BigBlueRules on Jul 28, 2018 12:54:27 GMT -5
There is a reason Denver did not throw the ball to Latimer and let him walk . Would you guys want Barden or Hixon back on the team when they were allowed to walk . He is the same player. There is a reason these kind of recievers are not re-signed or cut. IMO: He is a lower version of Rueben Randle. He was a better receiver and the Giants let him walk. I agree with Jomo. He will be coverage ploy when the season starts . Latimer is the 2nd best WR on the roster. And wayyyyy better than Randle. being better than Randle is not saying much. Randle's pick in the draft started the down fall of Jerry Reese. lol |
|
Merc
Special Teams
Posts: 1,694
|
Post by Merc on Jul 28, 2018 13:06:40 GMT -5
If Latimer has found his comfort zone with the Giants, he could be become our #2 outside receiver. I've seen other players thrive with new teams. Time will tell.
|
|
|
|
Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 13:06:58 GMT -5
In reality Randle's last season with the Giants was better the Latimer's entire career.
|
|
|
|
Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 28, 2018 15:07:14 GMT -5
Engram is going to be a big fit in this offense. He will benefit so much with all the attention on Beckham and Barkley.
Lattimer anything he brings will be icing on the cake. No reason he can't catch 3-4 passes per game on hooks and slants all day. 8-15 yds per catch using his body to shield DB. Nobody else will be paying any attention to him nor should they. 3-5 TD's says my crystal ball.
|
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jul 28, 2018 16:24:37 GMT -5
I don't like using stats as an end all and be all of an argument but doesn't Latimer have a total 35 receptions and 445 years in his 4 year career? You think he is better than Shepard? I mean, his total career stats would be an average year for a TE, right? What exactly am I missing here? Shepard's stats are manufactured. Latimer is the more explosive playmaker. Lolwut? |
|
|
|
Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 18:45:08 GMT -5
All these weapons mean some should always be open.....right?
Hopefully they will convert many 3rd downs
|
|
Eazy E
Special Teams
Posts: 1,506
|
Post by Eazy E on Jul 28, 2018 19:29:03 GMT -5
Lol ....Q the Randle threads!!!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by giants38 on Jul 28, 2018 22:23:11 GMT -5
Lol ....Q the Randle threads!!!!! Please no! |
|
|
|
Post by TEM on Jul 29, 2018 7:07:39 GMT -5
Lol ....Q the Randle threads!!!!! The point I was making. We let a player walk because he was a numb scull , Now we bring In a player that seems to be a bigger one. He is instantly going to be this force to be reckoned with? IMO: He is going be a issue on the field. Bad routes, drops , quitting on routes...…… There is a reason Denver cut him loose and he was never really in the game plan when on the field. 2nd round picks are never used as decoys . This guy was. Why? We will find out soon enough. |
|
mikethenygfan
Special Teams
Enter your message here...
Posts: 1,231
Member is Online
|
Post by mikethenygfan on Jul 30, 2018 5:57:12 GMT -5
If Latimer catches 3 or more TDs comes away from the year with 20ish catches then I think that'd be a very big year for the kid. as long as those tds are game winners |
|
|
|
Post by TCHOF on Jul 30, 2018 6:00:29 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb and say that even if Cody Latimer is Eli's go to receiver thus far in mini camp, he will largely be a non factor when real bullets start to fly. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if Manning is given time and the scheme I think they have in mind, you will see somewhat equal production from every receiving option he has out there. No chance. Odell is the guy. Other guys will get looks too, but it won't be equal. |
|
|
|
Post by TCHOF on Jul 30, 2018 6:05:49 GMT -5
1. You just switched your argument mid debate. You originally said that Latimer is the 2nd best WR on the team. Now you're introducing the "outside" WR caveat. 2. If you believe anything that you're saying about this then you should turn in your medical marijuana card. Latimer > Shepard. Latimer has a superior skill-set for a WR than Shepard. Shepard is a slot receiver only. On the outside, he is easily covered. Both were drafted in the 2nd round. The only difference, is opportunity. Latimer had Demaryious Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders ahead of him on the depth chart, as outside WRs. So of course Latimer was going to be underutilized. In 2 WR sets, in Shurmur's offense, Latimer will see the field more than Shepard due to his ability to beat press coverage and ability to block. Latimer > Shepard this year For Pete's sake. Maybe football isn't your thing, dude .... |
|
|
|
Post by jimmieray on Jul 30, 2018 6:16:05 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if Manning is given time and the scheme I think they have in mind, you will see somewhat equal production from every receiving option he has out there. No chance. Odell is the guy. Other guys will get looks too, but it won't be equal. Considering YAC, yeah I'll have to rephrase that. What I was trying to say is, if Manning gets the time we hope he does, there shouldn't be any ignored receivers out on the field. |
|
|
|
Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 30, 2018 6:32:18 GMT -5
No chance. Odell is the guy. Other guys will get looks too, but it won't be equal. Considering YAC, yeah I'll have to rephrase that. What I was trying to say is, if Manning gets the time we hope he does, there shouldn't be any ignored receivers out on the field. And if that's the case he won't have to squeeze the ball into a window the size of a shoebox for Odell to grab. |
|
|
|
Post by jimmieray on Jul 30, 2018 6:37:06 GMT -5
Considering YAC, yeah I'll have to rephrase that. What I was trying to say is, if Manning gets the time we hope he does, there shouldn't be any ignored receivers out on the field. And if that's the case he won't have to squeeze the ball into a window the size of a shoebox for Odell to grab. Yes, there should be much less forcing things, less predictability, and more chance of someone free from tight coverage. |
|
|
|
Post by TCHOF on Jul 30, 2018 10:50:17 GMT -5
No chance. Odell is the guy. Other guys will get looks too, but it won't be equal. Considering YAC, yeah I'll have to rephrase that. What I was trying to say is, if Manning gets the time we hope he does, there shouldn't be any ignored receivers out on the field. Completely agree with that, and I hope it plays out like that ... it would be great for the offense |
|
