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Post by Kase1 on Feb 24, 2019 10:31:58 GMT -5
Chuma Edoga
Chuma Edoga has some likable qualities, specifically as it relates to his mobility, foot speed and quickness onto the second level. But Edoga’s build is light and he possesses a poor anchor, explosive EDGE defenders will collapse his pass sets fairly easily at the NFL level. As a result, Edoga needs to be considered a developmental player until he’s able to add more functional strength to his game. But in doing so he must sustain his foot speed and linear explosiveness.
Explosive mover who is well-equipped to play in space. Particularly covers impressive ground on wide zone concepts and pulls, though pulls are rare. Kick-slide covers significant ground. Is particularly fleet-footed in pass sets, impressing in mirror drill instances in which opposing rushers have a two-way go. Is long and understands how to maximize length to steer rushers around the EDGE track. Punch can arrive with fire and he has the strength to bench press with leverage from either one or two hands, but often resorts to using hands to screen, not to displace. Stays active late into pass rush reps; has great recovery athleticism.
Takes decent angles on zone climbs and generates rolling power from hips to displace linebackers, making contact with impressive frequency. Very active blocker who takes on all responsibilities, even secondary backside blocks, with gusto
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 24, 2019 13:08:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the breakdown.
Here he is going against a very good DE in #90 from Texas, Charles omenihu, who was looking dominant at the senior bowl practices.
He held his own but I see him giving up space in the pocket against the bullrush as you had pointed out with the weak base. He also needs to get his hands inside as his punch looks weak and guys shed his blocks
8:59 - Gets out in space on the run blocking but he id not lay out the DB once he made contact. He was supposed to pancake that guy. He needs to get meaner.
9:36 - He back pedals right into the QB's lap instead of initiating contact with the DE and keeping the pocket clean. That is a technique issue that sucks.
He's not keeping his head on a swivel to pick up other blockers. I can see him being confused by stunts and blitzes at the next level, but he did pick up some blitzes in first tape.
He's a mid round project. I'd like to know his measurables
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 26, 2019 0:22:16 GMT -5
Mitch Hyatt #75 LT - Clemson
Here he is versus Alabama in 2017. good test.
3:53 - Shows the ability to move laterally and mirror the defender
4:11 - He's not a body mover in the run game at the point of attack.
4:28 - and just like that he shows bad footwork on an inside fake. The DE put him on skates before he even made contact and his recovery speed was not there.
4:39 - I like how he times the snap and explodes out of his break. If he could do that consistently then it might help him get beat less by speed rushers.
5:01 - Again, good job mirroring the defender but you allow him to collapse the pocket. He needs to engage the defender and put hands on him. Where the heck is his punch?
5:39 - More of the same crap. Nice footwork but no base behind it to stop a defender. Susceptible to a double move by the DE. Put a move on him and his footwork goes to crap and he's off balance and easily pushed around.
6:46 - That is not a good look. He just looks outmatched.
8:23 - Did the alabama DL trip him on purpose? I think he did but that was lack of awareness on the play. Get those feet up.
He gets put on skates which is a combination of bad technique in his leverage. He can't sink his hips to anchor himself against a bull rush. If he's moving backwards then he's done.
This guy needs work and he's a late round project but Wheeler is better at this point.
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 26, 2019 10:13:25 GMT -5
Hey Gee,
Do you have any opinions on Brandon Knight or Wes Martin? They keep coming up on BBI posts. Both prospects are from Indiana.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 26, 2019 11:24:00 GMT -5
I will look into them when I get home. I will gladly take requests to report on a prospect you like. Some of you guys have put me on to some good talent.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 26, 2019 11:53:21 GMT -5
Brandon Knight is the RT #62. Martin is the left guard #76. I'm looking at RT for this.
40 sec - Nice kick step but once he sets his anchor, the DE just rolls off him. he didn't stick with his block
1:00 - That run play was all him. Situational awareness, active in the run game, looking for someone to hit. He springs the RB for a TD.
1:11 - More of the same. Good run blocker especially out in space.
1:52 - Him and the RG take the defender for a nice ride.
So without getting too deep into his film, he's good in the run but a liability in pass blocking. He definitely will NOT be playing OT at the next level. That guy is a natural guard. He's a late round project. He's not stopping any speed rushers with that limited footwork. I mean look how run heavy their offense was in this game.
I'm going to let y'all a stab at LG Martin. Tell me what you think. it's fun!!!!
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 26, 2019 18:29:56 GMT -5
Brandon Knight is the RT #62. Martin is the left guard #76. I'm looking at RT for this. 40 sec - Nice kick step but once he sets his anchor, the DE just rolls off him. he didn't stick with his block 1:00 - That run play was all him. Situational awareness, active in the run game, looking for someone to hit. He springs the RB for a TD. 1:11 - More of the same. Good run blocker especially out in space. 1:52 - Him and the RG take the defender for a nice ride. So without getting too deep into his film, he's good in the run but a liability in pass blocking. He definitely will NOT be playing OT at the next level. That guy is a natural guard. He's a late round project. He's not stopping any speed rushers with that limited footwork. I mean look how run heavy their offense was in this game. I'm going to let y'all a stab at LG Martin. Tell me what you think. it's fun!!!! Martin looks solid. He mauls in the run game and rarely gets moved back ward in the pass. I did see him getting beat with quickness a couple of time, but he looks strong once his hands latch on. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 27, 2019 11:08:30 GMT -5
Martin notes from vid 15 sec mark: He misplays the DL and gets beaten badly. This happens when guys don't use their hands to read and steer the defender. Next play he gets out in space blocking the run and looks  and doesn't know who to hit. 3:13 - Great example of when someone anchors. He engages the linemen and doesn't give up ground and he sinks his hips to gain leverage. I'd like to know his measurables. He plays like a big fundamentally sound guard. I see some nasty in a couple of pan cake blocks. He could be something. I like him better than the RT at this point because he seems to be in his natural position. he could probably play Center as well. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 2, 2019 22:24:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 7:23:22 GMT -5
Watching day 1, Garrett Bradbury will not be available for the Giants in round 2. That kid showed some serious big man quicks and skills.
Taylor also showed some incredible feet for a man that size.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2019 10:08:49 GMT -5
This is such a good deep class that we can get at least 2 good linemen even on 5t o day 3...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 14:54:01 GMT -5
Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
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Kaleb McGary posted an elite #RAS at the #2019NFLCombine. Great speed, explosion scores to go with good agility, all while posting an awesome size grade. Rare.
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McGary has been on teams’ radars for some time, but he hasn’t been a nationally known prospect despite promising tape. The Combine saw him light up nearly every drill, and his name was buzzing throughout the arena. Like Kolton Miller last year, McGary may have done enough to throw his name into the Day 1 discussion, and while he’s also a developmental prospect like Miller was, he doesn’t have nearly the same level of flaws to his game.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 5, 2019 22:22:54 GMT -5
OT'S Jonah Williams, Alabama Yodny Cajuste, WVU Andre Dillard, Washington St Dalton Risner, Kansas, St Calvin Throckmorton, Oregon OG'S Alex Bars, Notre Dame Chris Lindstrom, Boston College Cody Ford, Oklahoma C's Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin Michael Jordan, Ohio St Those are a few OL prospects that ive been following so far this season, all of which i would love to have on the Giants No one talks about alex bars. I didn't even see him at the combine. I think I'll do him next for kicks. Gotta love a ND OL |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 7, 2019 17:54:38 GMT -5
OT'S Jonah Williams, Alabama Yodny Cajuste, WVU Andre Dillard, Washington St Dalton Risner, Kansas, St Calvin Throckmorton, Oregon OG'S Alex Bars, Notre Dame Chris Lindstrom, Boston College Cody Ford, Oklahoma C's Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin Michael Jordan, Ohio St Those are a few OL prospects that ive been following so far this season, all of which i would love to have on the Giants No one talks about alex bars. I didn't even see him at the combine. I think I'll do him next for kicks. Gotta love a ND OL Yea, his injury def derailed his path to the draft. Cant believe i didnt mention Jawaan Taylor from Florida, who is currently my fav OT |
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Post by TEM on Mar 7, 2019 20:05:55 GMT -5
I like Elgton Jenkins OT Mississippi State in the 2nd round.
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 7, 2019 20:13:56 GMT -5
I like Elgton Jenkins OT Mississippi State in the 2nd round. I prefer E. Mc Coy Texas A &M. Jenkins and McCoy are centers. Bradberry , most likely will be gone. I still would like us to take J. Abrams or Nasir Adderley. |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 10, 2019 15:05:33 GMT -5
I like Elgton Jenkins OT Mississippi State in the 2nd round. I WANT to like him, but his play just comes across as uninspired. He has the skills and athletic ability but it seems like he lacks that nasty attitude |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 18, 2019 14:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 18, 2019 16:19:54 GMT -5
If we weren't so thin on defense he would probably be in play at 6 He will be the first lineman off the board and in the top 10 |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 19, 2019 20:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 19, 2019 20:42:44 GMT -5
Alex Bars
42 Sec Mark. - He picks up the LB and I believe that is Devin Bush.
50 sec - Good lead block in space
1:15 - Pancake then next play he uses his length to hold off a blocker. Good use of the hands. Looks like a typical fundamentally sound ND OL.
As I watch the tape against a very good Michigan team, I have to say that he looks a lo better than I have been led to believe from his rankings. He is playing excellent help blocking with their LT and Center. He has bend and knows how to sink his hips to anchor against a defender. He moves well in space.
What am I missing? He is solid and I'd put a 4th round grade on him and the very least. I have to see his combine
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 19, 2019 23:23:51 GMT -5
Olisaemeka Udoh - RT Furman
He was clearly too big for those guys, but one play bugged me. 2:17 mark a smaller defender catches him lunging off balanced. I'm wondering if the fact he was playing midgets affected his bend. He showed decent lateral movement for a big guy and was active in blocking guys.
He keeps his hands inside consistently which is good. Rides faster defenders away from the pocket. He needs to use his length better and keep guys off him.
They say he did well at the East West Shrine game. Late round development or UDFA
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 21, 2019 9:18:25 GMT -5
If we weren't so thin on defense he would probably be in play at 6 He will be the first lineman off the board and in the top 10 Totally right, if we weren't SO thin on Defense, id be 1000% on board with him at 6, then again depending on whos out there, i may still be ok with him at 6 |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 21, 2019 9:20:26 GMT -5
Alex Bars 42 Sec Mark. - He picks up the LB and I believe that is Devin Bush. 50 sec - Good league block in space 1:15 - Pancake then next play he uses his length to hold off a blocker. Good use of the hands. Looks like a typical fundamentally sound ND OL. As I watch the tape against a very good Michigan team, I have to say that he looks a lo better than I have been led to believe from his rankings. He is playing excellent help blocking with their LT and Center. He has bend and knows how to sink his hips to anchor against a defender. He moves well in space. What am I missing? He is solid and I'd put a 4th round grade on him and the very least. I have to see his combine Before he got hurt i was a big fan. Now in alot of mocks he isnt getting drafted at all, i dont get it either. His tape looks good and we can always use depth |
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 5, 2019 12:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 7, 2019 11:30:01 GMT -5
Dru Samia - RG - A guy we have met with. Solid looking guard for the mid rounds. Technically sound and looks strong. He could use a little more bend to center himself. Does not give up a lot of ground and he is athletic looking on the pull.
His weakness is against defenders with good quick hands. A guy with a good counter hand move beats him as seen on a couple of plays. If you put him on an island, he might get beat. He's better in small spaces with a good RT or Center. He played next to Cody Ford at RT
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Post by beijring123 on Apr 7, 2019 20:12:48 GMT -5
Jonah Williams is a Guard in the NFL. Not a Tackle.
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and doesn't know who to hit.
