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Post by boxcarwillie on Jul 28, 2018 1:00:19 GMT -5
Of course everybody in the Giants family is psyched to see a lot of Saquon. And hopefully Stewart will have a role. (short yardage?)
Let's not forget about Gallman. He had a pretty good rookie campaign behind a pretty bad O-line.
If for nothing else than limiting the wear and tear on Barkley, I hope to see Wayne getting 10 or more carries per game.
Remember Derrick Ward, he was the #3 RB, but he was used a fair amount and made a real contribution.
(Yes, he's gotten into a lot of trouble with the police in recent years, but I'm referring only to his play while on the Giants.)
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 28, 2018 1:05:44 GMT -5
I think Gallman will get ten touches. He's a solid young player.
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Post by ocgiant on Jul 28, 2018 2:58:33 GMT -5
A year under his belt new coach almost new everything... so I think his role will get more defined in training camp to determine the best way to maximize his skill set for the upcoming season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 5:49:25 GMT -5
As much as Saquon is capable of taking as many carries as you are willing to give him, it is probably the wiser course to do the RB by committee. And the Giants (finally) have a good mix of backs to do that. Gallman and Stewart are excellent compliments to one another, and since Saquon can do it all he compliments each of them as well.
This is the position group that I am most excited about on our team. For too long it’s been a mix of players from the bargain bin and as much as the OL has been a huge problem...our back have not been up to the task.
New Orleans showed a great example of how to get a lot out of a talented RB stable and I think the Giants can do something similar.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 6:14:20 GMT -5
the more pieces the better. Gallman may have a significant roll. Stewart is pretty old by RB/NFL standards.
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 28, 2018 6:25:12 GMT -5
I think Gallman will get ten touches. He's a solid young player. This |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 6:25:14 GMT -5
Gallmen will get touches . He is a bruiser that can punish the Defense . Barkley Gallmen, I see as the same type of backfield as Hampton Anderson. Just younger.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 28, 2018 6:44:32 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, Vikings did a really good job last year of utilizing their entire roster. I expect the same here, especially with the backs. All three can run/catch out of the backfield, keep teams guessing.
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 6:51:56 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, Vikings did a really good job last year of utilizing their entire roster. I expect the same here, especially with the backs. All three can run/catch out of the backfield, keep teams guessing. I agree it should not be about players . It should be about match ups. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 28, 2018 9:32:06 GMT -5
Of course everybody in the Giants family is psyched to see a lot of Saquon. And hopefully Stewart will have a role. (short yardage?) Let's not forget about Gallman. He had a pretty good rookie campaign behind a pretty bad O-line. If for nothing else than limiting the wear and tear on Barkley, I hope to see Wayne getting 10 or more carries per game. Remember Derrick Ward, he was the #3 RB, but he was used a fair amount and made a real contribution. (Yes, he's gotten into a lot of trouble with the police in recent years, but I'm referring only to his play while on the Giants.) I have said this a few times he came back bigger stronger, last year he proved he could catch the ball out of the backfield ran hard and behind his pads this kid is a tough runner and I expect he will be better this year with added size and strength he and Barkely will be a nice 1-2 punch. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 28, 2018 9:37:54 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, Vikings did a really good job last year of utilizing their entire roster. I expect the same here, especially with the backs. All three can run/catch out of the backfield, keep teams guessing. I agree it should not be about players . It should be about match ups. think Gallmen and barkely will be a tough match up for defenses they both a good receiving from the running back position we know gallmen is a tough down hill runner he added 10 - 15 pounds this year, doesn't matter with one is on the field the run pass threat will have to be honored by the defense. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 9:46:58 GMT -5
I’m sure this will be perceived extremely negatively but I definitely haven’t forgot about Gallman and like his potential which is why I wasn’t thrilled about the Stewart signing. I just felt with Gallman, we had other areas of more concern.
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Post by shocknaweny on Jul 28, 2018 10:29:01 GMT -5
Gallman is okay but I don't see Saquon coming off the field very ofthen....Gallman will wind up with 7-10 touches per game
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Post by mikethenygfan on Jul 28, 2018 10:47:22 GMT -5
I’m sure this will be perceived extremely negatively but I definitely haven’t forgot about Gallman and like his potential which is why I wasn’t thrilled about the Stewart signing. I just felt with Gallman, we had other areas of more concern. Theres value in having a vet in there with the young rbs |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 10:55:57 GMT -5
I’m sure this will be perceived extremely negatively but I definitely haven’t forgot about Gallman and like his potential which is why I wasn’t thrilled about the Stewart signing. I just felt with Gallman, we had other areas of more concern. Theres value in having a vet in there with the young rbs I get it, and I’m sure Stewart will have some moments and be a good influence, but again, in our current situation with other positions and lack of depth I think signing him was more of a “luxury” than a necessity. A good FG kicked is a necessity, depth at corner and OT is a necessity. An aging short yardage specialist RB is one of the last players/positions I think needed to be addressed. This is all just my negative opinion of course so please keep the personal attacks to a minimum or preferably not at all. Thank you. |
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Post by LT 56 on Jul 28, 2018 10:58:21 GMT -5
I’m sure this will be perceived extremely negatively but I definitely haven’t forgot about Gallman and like his potential which is why I wasn’t thrilled about the Stewart signing. I just felt with Gallman, we had other areas of more concern. Theres value in having a vet in there with the young rbs I agree 100%, you cant put a price on leadership |
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Post by LT 56 on Jul 28, 2018 11:05:45 GMT -5
Theres value in having a vet in there with the young rbs I get it, and I’m sure Stewart will have some moments and be a good influence, but again, in our current situation with other positions and lack of depth I think signing him was more of a “luxury” than a necessity. A good FG kicked is a necessity, depth at corner and OT is a necessity. An aging short yardage specialist RB is one of the last players/positions I think needed to be addressed. This is all just my negative opinion of course so please keep the personal attacks to a minimum or preferably not at all. Thank you. It’s not a negative opinion especially since the lack of correct moves Jerry Reese had made in the last few years,most notably not addressing the OL. But one thing we have really lacked recently has been veteran leadership. Just have some faith and confidence that the new regime will get the remaining holes filled |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 11:32:49 GMT -5
Gallmen will get touches . He is a bruiser that can punish the Defense . Barkley Gallmen, I see as the same type of backfield as Hampton Anderson. Just younger. I think more like Hampton and Lewis Tillman. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 11:58:59 GMT -5
I agree it should not be about players . It should be about match ups. think Gallmen and barkely will be a tough match up for defenses they both a good receiving from the running back position we know gallmen is a tough down hill runner he added 10 - 15 pounds this year, doesn't matter with one is on the field the run pass threat will have to be honored by the defense. Add OBJ, Shep Engram , Ellison . Someone with good hands is going to be wide open. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 28, 2018 12:26:11 GMT -5
think Gallmen and barkely will be a tough match up for defenses they both a good receiving from the running back position we know gallmen is a tough down hill runner he added 10 - 15 pounds this year, doesn't matter with one is on the field the run pass threat will have to be honored by the defense. Add OBJ, Shep Engram , Ellison . Someone with good hands is going to be wide open. if the shiny new OL we put together gels nicely, we could have a fun offense to watch, like early 2008, before Plax shot himself. |
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Post by Merc on Jul 28, 2018 13:13:48 GMT -5
After we build up big leads, Gallman can run out the clock.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Jul 28, 2018 13:23:05 GMT -5
Gallman is okay but I don't see Saquon coming off the field very ofthen....Gallman will wind up with 7-10 touches per game I think closer to 7 is more likely and that is assuming he gets more than Stewart. I'm basing this on an assumption of 500 total run attempts (an increase over the last few years) with Barkley getting 290 or so. That only 13 attempts per game for the rest of the team. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 28, 2018 13:34:27 GMT -5
think Gallmen and barkely will be a tough match up for defenses they both a good receiving from the running back position we know gallmen is a tough down hill runner he added 10 - 15 pounds this year, doesn't matter with one is on the field the run pass threat will have to be honored by the defense. Add OBJ, Shep Engram , Ellison . Someone with good hands is going to be wide open. Exactly if this line can block and open passing lanes for the screen game this will be really tough on defenses, don't think a defenses will get much of a break when gallmen takes the field. |
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Post by DoctorMorbius on Jul 28, 2018 14:00:22 GMT -5
Its finally a nice group of RBs and Wayne the Train will certainly be in the mix...hopefully not too much ;-)
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Post by boxcarwillie on Jul 28, 2018 14:20:36 GMT -5
After we build up big leads, Gallman can run out the clock. This is similar to what I envision. I see games coming like this- Giants are up by a touchdown, mid 3rd quarter. (still a very close game). Then the Giants execute a TD drive featuring Gallman (mixing in other plays - Shepard, Engram, Ellison, maybe Jerell Adams).Up 2 TDs in the final minutes of the 3rd - looking good. Then, like you say, Defense (the pass rush can now assert itself)and pounding on the ground with Gallman (or Barkley/Stewart) brings home another big Giants victory! The clock eating TD drive in the 3rd period is where Gallman/Giants will assert themselves, in my vision. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 14:33:39 GMT -5
Possible SB will be the #1 and for each game a different #2 RB will be part of the game plan. I really hope Shurmur is all about matchups and not cramming in a game plan just because.
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 15:04:28 GMT -5
Gallmen will get touches . He is a bruiser that can punish the Defense . Barkley Gallmen, I see as the same type of backfield as Hampton Anderson. Just younger. I think more like Hampton and Lewis Tillman. Tillman never made the D pay for making contact with him. OJ did. IMO: Wayne has that same running quality. |
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Post by nysports98 on Jul 29, 2018 8:21:58 GMT -5
Theres value in having a vet in there with the young rbs I agree 100%, you cant put a price on leadership Stewart is ranked among the best pass blocking HB's in the league which is the main reason I believe he was signed. Signed before the Giants drafted Barkley, his pass blocking ability was a necessity. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 8:29:26 GMT -5
I agree 100%, you cant put a price on leadership Stewart is ranked among the best pass blocking HB's in the league which is the main reason I believe he was signed. Signed before the Giants drafted Barkley, his pass blocking ability was a necessity. This doesn't make any sense since Barkley is going to be on the field more. It's his blocking skills that's going to matter. Stewart was not a smart signing IMO. They should have used that money to resign Cockrell. CB was a bigger area of need. |
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Post by nysports98 on Jul 29, 2018 8:32:05 GMT -5
Stewart is ranked among the best pass blocking HB's in the league which is the main reason I believe he was signed. Signed before the Giants drafted Barkley, his pass blocking ability was a necessity. This doesn't make any sense since Barkley is going to be on the field more. It's his blocking skills that's going to matter. Stewart was not a smart signing IMO. They should have used that money to resign Cockrell. CB was a bigger area of need. Like I said, and most know, Stewart was signed before the draft. We had no idea Barkley would be a Giant and if you think a primary blocker isn't more important than a 3rd corner you haven't watched how badly this QB needs blocking from anywhere he can get it. |
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