Shim
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Post by Shim on May 16, 2018 10:08:55 GMT -5
Odell is the only remaining Giant from the 2014 NFL Draft class.
(1, 12) Odell Beckham Jr., WR. Currently: NYG
(2, 43) Weston Richburg, C. Currently: SF
(3, 74) Jay Bromley, DT. Currently: NO
(4, 113) Andre Williams, RB. Currently: FA
(5, 152) Nat Berhe, S. Currently: PIT
(5, 174) Devon Kennard, LB. Currently:DET
(6, 187) Bennett Jackson, CB. Currently: BAL
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TGTW92
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Post by TGTW92 on May 16, 2018 10:32:09 GMT -5
It's a shame Behre didn't pan out.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 19:39:24 GMT -5
Kennard was a good player. It was too bad he wasn’t re-signed.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on May 16, 2018 23:34:31 GMT -5
Man, I had high hopes for Andre Williams back then.
What a bust of a running back.
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Post by TEM on May 18, 2018 8:09:44 GMT -5
Man, I had high hopes for Andre Williams back then. What a bust of a running back. I would not say bust . I would say 4th round miss . More often then not. In the Giants history 4th round 56 picks IMO only guys worth anything. Gary Reasons Harry Carson HOF Mark Bavaro Keith Hamilton Danny Kanell? Brandon Jacobs Zak DeOssie Ward Cuff Matt Snell Jim Katcavage
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on May 18, 2018 10:04:00 GMT -5
Man, I had high hopes for Andre Williams back then. What a bust of a running back. I would not say bust . I would say 4th round miss . More often then not. In the Giants history 4th round 56 picks IMO only guys worth anything. Gary Reasons Harry Carson HOF Mark Bavaro Keith Hamilton Danny Kanell? Brandon Jacobs Zak DeOssie Ward Cliff Matt Snell Jim Katcavage Andre Williams was considered a steal in the 4th round, and the best RB in that draft. He was a bust.
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Post by TEM on May 18, 2018 10:23:46 GMT -5
I would not say bust . I would say 4th round miss . More often then not. In the Giants history 4th round 56 picks IMO only guys worth anything. Gary Reasons Harry Carson HOF Mark Bavaro Keith Hamilton Danny Kanell? Brandon Jacobs Zak DeOssie Ward Cliff Matt Snell Jim Katcavage Andre Williams was considered a steal in the 4th round, and the best RB in that draft. He was a bust. It is your opinion but a 4th round bust is semantics. I will stick with failed project .
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Post by EliQB10 on May 18, 2018 21:26:30 GMT -5
Man, I had high hopes for Andre Williams back then. What a bust of a running back. I would not say bust . I would say 4th round miss . More often then not. In the Giants history 4th round 56 picks IMO only guys worth anything. Gary Reasons Harry Carson HOF Mark Bavaro Keith Hamilton Danny Kanell? Brandon Jacobs Zak DeOssie Ward Cliff Matt Snell Jim Katcavage Some pretty good football players from that list...
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 6:13:51 GMT -5
I would not say bust . I would say 4th round miss . More often then not. In the Giants history 4th round 56 picks IMO only guys worth anything. Gary Reasons Harry Carson HOF Mark Bavaro Keith Hamilton Danny Kanell? Brandon Jacobs Zak DeOssie Ward Cliff Matt Snell Jim Katcavage Some pretty good football players from that list... Some Greats , but it is only a 20% of the entire list ( A 1-5 hit rate) Why I say a "bust" is a harsh word to use for a 4th round pick.
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 6:24:16 GMT -5
Some pretty good football players from that list... Some Greats , but it is only a 20% of the entire list ( A 1-5 hit rate) Why I say a "bust" is a harsh word to use for a 4th round pick. I would consider Harry Carson and Bavaro "greats"
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 7:28:01 GMT -5
Some Greats , but it is only a 20% of the entire list ( A 1-5 hit rate) Why I say a "bust" is a harsh word to use for a 4th round pick. I would consider Harry Carson and Bavaro "greats" Jim Katcavage should be in the HOF. He was a 2 time all pro. 96.5 career sacks in the 50s ( before LT made sacks important ) One of the anchors of the 56 Championship Defense that rivaled the 86 D-line
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 7:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 7:45:38 GMT -5
I would consider Harry Carson and Bavaro "greats" Jim Katcavage should be in the HOF. He was a 2 time all pro. 96.5 career sacks in the 50s ( before LT made sacks important ) One of the anchors of the 56 Championship Defense that rivaled the 86 D-line I did not know that...thanks for educating me...gettong back to Jerry, his record speaks for itself how he has wiffed in the 4th round...SMH
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 8:17:16 GMT -5
New England 2014 Draft
1st round pick 29 DT Dominique Easley (Rams) 2nd round pick 62 QB Jimmy Garoppolo (49ers)
3rd round pick 105 C Bryan Stork ( FA)
4th round pick 130 James White RB NE ( 4 seasons 1400 career yds)
4th round pick 140 Cameron Flemming OT NE ( career backup)
6th round pick 179 Jon Halapio OG ( NY Giants)
6th round Pick 198 Zakh Moore DE (FA)
6th round pick 206 Jemea Thomas DB (not in league)
7th round pick 244 Jeremy Gallon WR ( not in league)
It is easy to show failure inside a box.
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 8:37:12 GMT -5
Philly 2014 Draft
1st round pick 26 LB Marcus Smith ( Seahawks)
2nd round pick 42 WR Jorden Matthews (Bills)
3rd round pick 86 WR Josh Huff (FA)
4th round pick 101 DB Jaylen Watkins ( Philly)
5th round pick 141 DE Taylor Hart (FA)
5th round pick 162 DB Ed Reynolds ( FA)
7th round pick 224 DT Beau Allen (Philly) (back up DT)
Well that covers both Super bowl teams
With OBJ Reese had the better draft.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 9:53:12 GMT -5
New England 2014 Draft 1st round pick 29 DT Dominique Easley (Rams) 2nd round pick 62 QB Jimmy Garoppolo (49ers) 3rd round pick 105 C Bryan Stork ( FA) 4th round pick 130 James White RB NE ( 4 seasons 1400 career yds) 4th round pick 140 Cameron Flemming OT NE ( career backup) 6th round pick 179 Jon Halapio OG ( NY Giants) 6th round Pick 198 Zakh Moore DE (FA) 6th round pick 206 Jemea Thomas DB (not in league) 7th round pick 244 Jeremy Gallon WR ( not in league) It is easy to show failure inside a box. But, but...I hate Jerry Reese! >
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