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Post by jmike on Jul 15, 2019 15:23:16 GMT -5
Because punches by women or little children don't hurt. Do you hit children back too? When you are thinking, "I'll just stand on her neck for a bit" you probably made several wrong turns. Most likely. If the accounts of the actions are true, I'd be happy to see him strung up by his soon to be severed nut sack.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 15, 2019 15:33:50 GMT -5
I know people want to wait and see the whole story, but I've NEVER been in a situation where the right outcome would have been to step on a woman's neck and then knock her out. If she's out of control or violent, you remove yourself (and any children or other innocents) from the situation and call the police. Cut him now. iv been in a few weird situations. I guess trouble finds me. 1 in hs, i broke up a fight ,dude hitting his woman. I start beating him then the girlfriend attacks me. (Lesson learned) 2. In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) 3. An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) My issue is why is it ok for a woman to put her hands on a man? And not expect the sane in return? If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. ( not saying this case was justified or not,) Sure i even had a huge female bully me on the elementary school bus and me not fighting back because she was a girl. I just sometimes think some women use this to their advantage.
I don't know about using it to their advantage, but they prone to react physically just like we are.
But if you're a guy, you simply can't get involved in that.
Best thing is to just step away and pay some bitch to kick her ass for you.
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Post by shocknaweny on Jul 15, 2019 15:38:32 GMT -5
Bye Bye
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Post by McCherry on Jul 15, 2019 15:38:54 GMT -5
Because punches by women or little children don't hurt. Do you hit children back too? I've never been one to approve of hitting girls or women; however, there are "women" out there that will beat you up and don't think it can't happen. In a few years, you may have to rethink your position. I know a few women that I don't take lightly that can definitely beat up a man if given an opportunity. Then they'll go post it on social media and make you look extra weak Now if your're a pro athlete, then you definitely better never touch a woman, but you out of shape couch potatoes.....be careful No question. There are some extreme situations, which is an entirely different thing which doesn't really apply here. But I was talking about the slaps of an angry girlfriend. And in this case these is a professional football player... C'mon.
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 15, 2019 15:44:38 GMT -5
iv been in a few weird situations. I guess trouble finds me. 1 in hs, i broke up a fight ,dude hitting his woman. I start beating him then the girlfriend attacks me. (Lesson learned) 2. In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) 3. An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) My issue is why is it ok for a woman to put her hands on a man? And not expect the sane in return? If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. ( not saying this case was justified or not,) Sure i even had a huge female bully me on the elementary school bus and me not fighting back because she was a girl. I just sometimes think some women use this to their advantage.
I don't know about using it to their advantage, but they prone to react physically just like we are.
But if you're a guy, you simply can't get involved in that.
Best thing is to just step away and pay some bitch to kick her ass for you. Run. Run away, with your tail between your legs. Run like the wind.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 15, 2019 15:49:50 GMT -5
I know people want to wait and see the whole story, but I've NEVER been in a situation where the right outcome would have been to step on a woman's neck and then knock her out. If she's out of control or violent, you remove yourself (and any children or other innocents) from the situation and call the police. Cut him now. iv been in a few weird situations. You don't say....In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) What did she expect of you?
An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) With a man?
If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. You should try it sometime.
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Post by Nite on Jul 15, 2019 15:51:41 GMT -5
I've never been one to approve of hitting girls or women; however, there are "women" out there that will beat you up and don't think it can't happen. In a few years, you may have to rethink your position. I know a few women that I don't take lightly that can definitely beat up a man if given an opportunity. Then they'll go post it on social media and make you look extra weak Now if your're a pro athlete, then you definitely better never touch a woman, but you out of shape couch potatoes.....be careful No question. There are some extreme situations, which is an entirely different thing which doesn't really apply here. But I was talking about the slaps of an angry girlfriend. And in this case these is a professional football player... C'mon. If you are in a situation where you have to get physically violent with a woman - The relationship is over
Never hit a woman and will never tolerate getting hit (unless in certain situations in involving leather, straps, stainless steel...... but I digress) but I did throw objects (non-lethal) in the general direction of a woman, said really weird and strange things out of anger..but never violent..If a chick hits me and I'm not assaulting her - good bye..
There are certain cultures and sub-cultures where hitting, physical abuse of women and children is tolerated.... I never understood that...
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Post by TEM on Jul 15, 2019 15:54:29 GMT -5
I know people want to wait and see the whole story, but I've NEVER been in a situation where the right outcome would have been to step on a woman's neck and then knock her out. If she's out of control or violent, you remove yourself (and any children or other innocents) from the situation and call the police. Cut him now. iv been in a few weird situations. I guess trouble finds me. 1 in hs, i broke up a fight ,dude hitting his woman. I start beating him then the girlfriend attacks me. (Lesson learned) 2. In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) 3. An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) My issue is why is it ok for a woman to put her hands on a man? And not expect the sane in return? If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. ( not saying this case was justified or not,) Sure i even had a huge female bully me on the elementary school bus and me not fighting back because she was a girl. I just sometimes think some women use this to their advantage. This brings back a memory . I was in JJ Rockers in Scotch Plains. I was maybe 23 at the time. I was at the bar talking to a girl . A fight breaks out next to us. One of the guys uses a beer mug as brass knuckles. He takes a swing with it at the other guy . He ducks . I see the punch coming at me. I fade to the left to avoid it . ( pure reaction) The beer mug hits the girl I was speaking with right between the eyes. It bothered me for a while that I did not take the hit.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jul 15, 2019 16:12:55 GMT -5
No question. There are some extreme situations, which is an entirely different thing which doesn't really apply here. But I was talking about the slaps of an angry girlfriend. And in this case these is a professional football player... C'mon. If you are in a situation where you have to get physically violent with a woman - The relationship is over
Never hit a woman and will never tolerate getting hit (unless in certain situations in involving leather, straps, stainless steel...... but I digress) but I did throw objects (non-lethal) in the general direction of a woman, said really weird and strange things out of anger..but never violent..If a chick hits me and I'm not assaulting her - good bye..
There are certain cultures and sub-cultures where hitting, physical abuse of women and children is tolerated.... I never understood that...
I don't have problems with the women in my life, it's with some of these females I encounter when out in public. Definitely would never hit a woman in my life because it's easier to cut bait and go find new fish. Some of these kids are the way they are because they don't get disciplined. ^^ I don't condone it, but I understand. If that were my daughter, I'd tell her she got what she deserved for getting in an adults face and not expecting consequences.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 16:22:34 GMT -5
iv been in a few weird situations. You don't say....In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) What did she expect of you?
An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) With a man?
If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. You should try it sometime.alert we have a white knight over here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 16:49:19 GMT -5
I know people want to wait and see the whole story, but I've NEVER been in a situation where the right outcome would have been to step on a woman's neck and then knock her out. If she's out of control or violent, you remove yourself (and any children or other innocents) from the situation and call the police. Cut him now. I am in no way condoning this type of violence. 2 things though: 1-Just because you have never been in a situation where physically restraining or knocking out an individual is the best course of action, does not mean such a situation does not exist. 2-We don't know that these accusations are true. As horrible as it sounds, I think waiting until the facts of the situation are learned to a reasonable level of certainty is warranted before taking action on the part of the Giants. And of course he deserves his day in court before life consequences are determined. 1 - I've been in MANY situations where physically restraining or knocking out an individual WAS the best course of action......just never with a woman.
2. Then why is it ok to suspend him now?
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Post by KingCap88 on Jul 15, 2019 16:55:01 GMT -5
If the allegations turn out to be true, then he's definitely not going to be a Giant for much longer. I don't blame the Giants for suspending him. It's bad enough if you punch a woman and knock her out, but stepping on her neck just takes it to the next level.
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Post by jmike on Jul 15, 2019 17:02:36 GMT -5
I am in no way condoning this type of violence. 2 things though: 1-Just because you have never been in a situation where physically restraining or knocking out an individual is the best course of action, does not mean such a situation does not exist. 2-We don't know that these accusations are true. As horrible as it sounds, I think waiting until the facts of the situation are learned to a reasonable level of certainty is warranted before taking action on the part of the Giants. And of course he deserves his day in court before life consequences are determined. 1 - I've been in MANY situations where physically restraining or knocking out an individual WAS the best course of action......just never with a woman.
2. Then why is it ok to suspend him now?
1-Your point? So this means such a situation cannot occur? Because it has never been a situation you found yourself in? Sorry but silly logic there. I guarantee I have found myself in many situations in which you have never found yourself in. Also there are many situation in which you have found yourself in that I have not. We are just 2 people and have vastly different life experiences. Now multiply that out by the population of the world. Sorry, but your life experience is not any type of representative sample of all life experiences for every person in the world. 2-Because it is common practice to separate an employee from the workplace while serious matters like this are looked into. If nothing is found, he comes back to work. Not a tactic I would choose in every situation, but it seems appropriate here due to league rules and the seriousness of the accusation. Kind of the same reason you arrest an accused before he is proven guilty. Would you suggest not arresting people based on accusations and evidence because all the facts have not been discovered yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:16:14 GMT -5
1 - I've been in MANY situations where physically restraining or knocking out an individual WAS the best course of action......just never with a woman.
2. Then why is it ok to suspend him now?
1-Your point? So this means such a situation cannot occur? Because it has never been a situation you found yourself in? Sorry but silly logic there. I guarantee I have found myself in many situations in which you have never found yourself in. Also there are many situation in which you have found yourself in that I have not. We are just 2 people and have vastly different life experiences. Now multiply that out by the population of the world. Sorry, but your life experience is not any type of representative sample of all life experiences for every person in the world. 2-Because it is common practice to separate an employee from the workplace while serious matters like this are looked into. If nothing is found, he comes back to work. Not a tactic I would choose in every situation, but it seems appropriate here due to league rules and the seriousness of the accusation. Kind of the same reason you arrest an accused before he is proven guilty. Would you suggest not arresting people based on accusations and evidence because all the facts have not been discovered yet? 1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........? You're missing the point with the rest of this. I am in favor of suspending him now. Therefore, your point about "not arresting people" is moot. I was, again, pointing out the hypocrisy of being ok with suspending him while at the same time saying we should wait to have an opinion on him.
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
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Post by TEM on Jul 15, 2019 17:24:46 GMT -5
1-Your point? So this means such a situation cannot occur? Because it has never been a situation you found yourself in? Sorry but silly logic there. I guarantee I have found myself in many situations in which you have never found yourself in. Also there are many situation in which you have found yourself in that I have not. We are just 2 people and have vastly different life experiences. Now multiply that out by the population of the world. Sorry, but your life experience is not any type of representative sample of all life experiences for every person in the world. 2-Because it is common practice to separate an employee from the workplace while serious matters like this are looked into. If nothing is found, he comes back to work. Not a tactic I would choose in every situation, but it seems appropriate here due to league rules and the seriousness of the accusation. Kind of the same reason you arrest an accused before he is proven guilty. Would you suggest not arresting people based on accusations and evidence because all the facts have not been discovered yet? 1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........?
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
If you are in a scenario where you have to resort to violence against a women . The judgement you used to allowed that situation to transpire needs to be addressed. Where the issue lies.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 15, 2019 17:26:08 GMT -5
Rules of the road. Take a deep breath, read the article then reserve judgement. There are often several more chapters to the story. When the facts are all in, the road forward will become clear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:27:31 GMT -5
1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........?
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
If you are in a scenario where you have to resort to violence against a women . The judgement you used to allowed that situation to transpire needs to be addressed. Where the issue lies. I would say that is correct MOST of the time. I dated that one psycho for years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:31:18 GMT -5
Rules of the road. Take a deep breath, read the article then reserve judgement. There are often several more chapters to the story. When the facts are all in, the road forward will become clear. I don't doubt there are MANY people at fault for what transpired......but he stepped on her neck after she was already down from the fight with another woman (that he watched).....and then knocked her out. It's likely EVERYBODY was wrong in this scenario......but he did what he did.....no excuses. Punk.
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Post by jmike on Jul 15, 2019 17:40:13 GMT -5
1-Your point? So this means such a situation cannot occur? Because it has never been a situation you found yourself in? Sorry but silly logic there. I guarantee I have found myself in many situations in which you have never found yourself in. Also there are many situation in which you have found yourself in that I have not. We are just 2 people and have vastly different life experiences. Now multiply that out by the population of the world. Sorry, but your life experience is not any type of representative sample of all life experiences for every person in the world. 2-Because it is common practice to separate an employee from the workplace while serious matters like this are looked into. If nothing is found, he comes back to work. Not a tactic I would choose in every situation, but it seems appropriate here due to league rules and the seriousness of the accusation. Kind of the same reason you arrest an accused before he is proven guilty. Would you suggest not arresting people based on accusations and evidence because all the facts have not been discovered yet? 1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........? You're missing the point with the rest of this. I am in favor of suspending him now. Therefore, your point about "not arresting people" is moot. I was, again, pointing out the hypocrisy of being ok with suspending him while at the same time saying we should wait to have an opinion on him.
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
1-You said you have never been in a situation where hitting a woman was the best course of action. How was I assuming you have never been in that situation when you said you weren't. I'm just suggesting that just because you have never found yourself in that situation does not mean that situation does not exist. 2-How is it hypocritical to think that a suspension from work while an accusation is investigated while not assuming guilt? This is exactly how the justice system works. You arrest somebody based on accusation and evidence. Then you have an investigation and court case to prove guilt. Seems perfectly reasonable situation to me. Would you prefer they determine he is guilty on site and cut him? While later learned that he did nothing wrong? That makes little sense. If you have already doled out the consequences of actions, why bother with an investigation to find out if those actions actually took place? I also am not saying to wait for an opinion, just wait to determine he is definitely guilty before passing judgment. I am of the opinion that he is a scumbag and should be cut and likely won't ever play in the league if these accusations are true. I'm just not certain if they are, since I have no connection with the people or events and have very little faith in the honesty of those reporting based on personal experience dealing with the sensational nature of what these news outlets choose to report. A friend was robbed and murdered. Within minutes of this discovery you had news people reporting on the scene about what happened and they ranged from auto erotic affixation, to a drug deal gone bad. Before any reporter had spoken to an officer or witness. The reality was more mundane. Someone broke into his hotel room, murdered him and stole his stuff. Horrible enough, but that doesn't get views or clicks. So, as of now, I take anything reported but these reporters with an enormous grain of salt. Oh and the stories were never corrected in the news, as by the time the facts were known it was old news and nobody cared. The guy who did it went to prison though, they expect him to make parole in 30 years...well 26 now.
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Post by jmike on Jul 15, 2019 17:41:17 GMT -5
1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........?
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
If you are in a scenario where you have to resort to violence against a women . The judgement you used to allowed that situation to transpire needs to be addressed. Where the issue lies. wow
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Post by jmike on Jul 15, 2019 17:44:44 GMT -5
Rules of the road. Take a deep breath, read the article then reserve judgement. There are often several more chapters to the story. When the facts are all in, the road forward will become clear. I don't doubt there are MANY people at fault for what transpired......but he stepped on her neck after she was already down from the fight with another woman (that he watched).....and then knocked her out. It's likely EVERYBODY was wrong in this scenario......but he did what he did.....no excuses. Punk. Sorry....but how do you KNOW this is what happened? I think it is safe to assume that you weren't there, so you are basing this on 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand reports. Do you really think you have enough information to determine what happened with any degree of certainty that leaves no room for an investigation and requires a final determination right now?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 18:02:39 GMT -5
1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........?
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
If you are in a scenario where you have to resort to violence against a women . The judgement you used to allowed that situation to transpire needs to be addressed. Where the issue lies. it would take a lot not to sock this "lady "
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Post by Roswell on Jul 15, 2019 18:33:56 GMT -5
Rules of the road. Take a deep breath, read the article then reserve judgement. There are often several more chapters to the story. When the facts are all in, the road forward will become clear. Absolutely. The guy deserves to be heard. Maybe none of that happened at all. If he’s guilty he should be cut, arrested, whatever he deserves. But right now he deserves to give his side of what happened. There are very few reasons to use force on a girl. Hopefully he didn’t.
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Post by Roswell on Jul 15, 2019 18:35:10 GMT -5
Rules of the road. Take a deep breath, read the article then reserve judgement. There are often several more chapters to the story. When the facts are all in, the road forward will become clear. I don't doubt there are MANY people at fault for what transpired......but he stepped on her neck after she was already down from the fight with another woman (that he watched).....and then knocked her out. It's likely EVERYBODY was wrong in this scenario......but he did what he did.....no excuses. Punk. You were there?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 19:03:11 GMT -5
1- My point was in response to you suggesting I have never been in that type of situation. AND....assuming that I haven't been in a physical altercation with women over my lifetime is the silly logic. Women are human and have flaws just like men....not to mention the few psychos I've dated over the years....including one who ran over me for talking to a girl I knew at in bar and once trying to light my apartment on fire with a make-up card she bought me because I broke up with her. THE POINT is.....I never, not once, raised a hand to any of them. There are different and better ways to handle a violent or out of control woman. I'll say this......and I heard it from a comedian....if you walk in and she is killing one of your kids......then it's probably ok to smack a bitch. This does not appear to be one of those times.
2- That's completely hypocritical. Innocent until proven guilty, except for........? You're missing the point with the rest of this. I am in favor of suspending him now. Therefore, your point about "not arresting people" is moot. I was, again, pointing out the hypocrisy of being ok with suspending him while at the same time saying we should wait to have an opinion on him.
Lastly.....dude is a punk. Cut him now.
1-You said you have never been in a situation where hitting a woman was the best course of action. How was I assuming you have never been in that situation when you said you weren't. I'm just suggesting that just because you have never found yourself in that situation does not mean that situation does not exist. 2-How is it hypocritical to think that a suspension from work while an accusation is investigated while not assuming guilt? This is exactly how the justice system works. You arrest somebody based on accusation and evidence. Then you have an investigation and court case to prove guilt. Seems perfectly reasonable situation to me. Would you prefer they determine he is guilty on site and cut him? While later learned that he did nothing wrong? That makes little sense. If you have already doled out the consequences of actions, why bother with an investigation to find out if those actions actually took place? I also am not saying to wait for an opinion, just wait to determine he is definitely guilty before passing judgment. I am of the opinion that he is a scumbag and should be cut and likely won't ever play in the league if these accusations are true. I'm just not certain if they are, since I have no connection with the people or events and have very little faith in the honesty of those reporting based on personal experience dealing with the sensational nature of what these news outlets choose to report. A friend was robbed and murdered. Within minutes of this discovery you had news people reporting on the scene about what happened and they ranged from auto erotic affixation, to a drug deal gone bad. Before any reporter had spoken to an officer or witness. The reality was more mundane. Someone broke into his hotel room, murdered him and stole his stuff. Horrible enough, but that doesn't get views or clicks. So, as of now, I take anything reported but these reporters with an enormous grain of salt. Oh and the stories were never corrected in the news, as by the time the facts were known it was old news and nobody cared. The guy who did it went to prison though, they expect him to make parole in 30 years...well 26 now. 1- You assumed because I said I have never been in a situation where hitting a woman was the best course of action that I has never been in a situation where others have taken that action. So let me be very clear so that there is no more miscommunication. There ISN'T a situation where the best course of action is violence against a woman. (except the kid killing thing I said before) My life experience has nothing to do with it at all. I'm saying there isn't one.....period. If you'd like to give examples, I'm willing to listen.
2- Suspending a person before he's convicted is still punishment before he's convicted. How can one be ok and not the other? It's hypocritical. Not in just this situation, but any time it happens. IMO, you hit a woman, you're done. No of this PC suspension thing. No matter WHAT happened before.....he stepped on her neck then knocked her out. Goodbye. I don't really give a **** about the media hype on anything. You either believe the police reports or you don't. I guarantee you the Giants read police reports and determined his guilt.
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 15, 2019 19:04:35 GMT -5
If you are in a scenario where you have to resort to violence against a women . The judgement you used to allowed that situation to transpire needs to be addressed. Where the issue lies. it would take a lot not to sock this "lady " Seriously? Leaving was an option.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 19:04:42 GMT -5
I don't doubt there are MANY people at fault for what transpired......but he stepped on her neck after she was already down from the fight with another woman (that he watched).....and then knocked her out. It's likely EVERYBODY was wrong in this scenario......but he did what he did.....no excuses. Punk. You were there? Police reports says.....He stepped on her neck and punched her with a closed fist. I don't need to be there to know a punk when I hear about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 19:05:29 GMT -5
it would take a lot not to sock this "lady " Seriously? Leaving was an option. Bingo.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 15, 2019 19:06:35 GMT -5
iv been in a few weird situations. You don't say....In a night club , this drunk girl starts kicking me (expects a man not to hit her back i guess ) What did she expect of you?
An ex gf slapped me hard across my face (thought i was cheating) With a man?
If you act like a guy , u may be treated like one. You should try it sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 19:10:46 GMT -5
I don't doubt there are MANY people at fault for what transpired......but he stepped on her neck after she was already down from the fight with another woman (that he watched).....and then knocked her out. It's likely EVERYBODY was wrong in this scenario......but he did what he did.....no excuses. Punk. Sorry....but how do you KNOW this is what happened? I think it is safe to assume that you weren't there, so you are basing this on 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand reports. Do you really think you have enough information to determine what happened with any degree of certainty that leaves no room for an investigation and requires a final determination right now? Police reports.
What final determination have I made. Fire him? Please. He's lucky a few of my crew wasn't there when it happened. Getting fired would be the least of his worries
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