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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Aug 4, 2018 23:36:42 GMT -5
From what I hear, his arm strength isn't the greatest. Just look at his senior bowl highlights and then tell me about arm strength. I dare any defense that wants to give him an open downfield. Ok, I took your advice and did watch his Senior Bowl highlight video. He had a good game, but I didn't see OUTSTANDING arm strength, like I do with Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold. The first two passes were long floaters and the others were by no means bombs. Sorry, but Lauletta does not have the same arm strength as Allen, Rosen & Darnold. He just doesn't.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 5, 2018 6:20:48 GMT -5
First off. I’m a big Eli fan. But realistically he has 2 years left. How awesome would it be to have Kyle or Davis step up. Personally I’m not seeing the Davis Webb future. But I’m hoping we have our future Star QB on roster. It’s just seems like Webb doesn’t process things as quickly as he should. Lauletta seems very interesting. I wasn’t happy about about picking him, but let’s hope it pans out Let’s hope Webb just needs some game time experience. I will have to schedule some time with Webb.....
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 5, 2018 9:47:23 GMT -5
Just look at his senior bowl highlights and then tell me about arm strength. I dare any defense that wants to give him an open downfield. Ok, I took your advice and did watch his Senior Bowl highlight video. He had a good game, but I didn't see OUTSTANDING arm strength, like I do with Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold. The first two passes were long floaters and the others were by no means bombs. Sorry, but Lauletta does not have the same arm strength as Allen, Rosen & Darnold. He just doesn't. He may still turn out to be a better QB than one or all of them.
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Post by Merc on Aug 5, 2018 10:45:15 GMT -5
Just look at his senior bowl highlights and then tell me about arm strength. I dare any defense that wants to give him an open downfield. Ok, I took your advice and did watch his Senior Bowl highlight video. He had a good game, but I didn't see OUTSTANDING arm strength, like I do with Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold. The first two passes were long floaters and the others were by no means bombs. Sorry, but Lauletta does not have the same arm strength as Allen, Rosen & Darnold. He just doesn't. He can throw the ball downfield with accuracy. It does not have to be a bullet.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 5, 2018 11:43:32 GMT -5
I'm really interested to see how he and Webb look on Thursday. That and the OL more than anything. the competition on the secondary should be good to watch as well.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 5, 2018 12:03:57 GMT -5
From what I hear, his arm strength isn't the greatest. neither is Drew Brees then again he plays indoors and in the south most of his games.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Aug 5, 2018 17:32:29 GMT -5
Ok, I took your advice and did watch his Senior Bowl highlight video. He had a good game, but I didn't see OUTSTANDING arm strength, like I do with Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold. The first two passes were long floaters and the others were by no means bombs. Sorry, but Lauletta does not have the same arm strength as Allen, Rosen & Darnold. He just doesn't. He can throw the ball downfield with accuracy. It does not have to be a bullet. Whether that's true or not, it's not the point. You told me to watch his Senior Bowl highlights, so I did. And I'm telling you that I was not impressed with his "arm strength".
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Aug 5, 2018 17:34:21 GMT -5
From what I hear, his arm strength isn't the greatest. neither is Drew Brees then again he plays indoors and in the south most of his games. He's got a better chance of being Ryan Nassib, than Drew Brees.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 5, 2018 18:21:47 GMT -5
I don't think our future QB is on our roster. There's no way to know this until we see either Webb or Lauletta under center in real time in meaningful games. One can still have an opinion on it.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 5, 2018 18:57:25 GMT -5
I don't think our future QB is on our roster. There's no way to know this until we see either Webb or Lauletta under center in real time in meaningful games. Thus the "I don't THINK our QB......" beginning to the sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:34:05 GMT -5
There's no way to know this until we see either Webb or Lauletta under center in real time in meaningful games. One can still have an opinion on it. I never said anyone couldn't. Where did you get that from?
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Post by Merc on Aug 5, 2018 20:00:16 GMT -5
He can throw the ball downfield with accuracy. It does not have to be a bullet. Whether that's true or not, it's not the point. You told me to watch his Senior Bowl highlights, so I did. And I'm telling you that I was not impressed with his "arm strength". I don't see where his arm strength is affecting his ability to get the ball downfield, so I think the comments about it are over blown.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 5, 2018 20:06:07 GMT -5
Whether that's true or not, it's not the point. You told me to watch his Senior Bowl highlights, so I did. And I'm telling you that I was not impressed with his "arm strength". I don't see where his arm strength is affecting his ability to get the ball downfield, so I think the comments about it are over blown. You can get by without a strong arm in the NFL. But the rest of your game better be awesome because you're starting with at least one strike against you. Those windows are small in this league.
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Post by Merc on Aug 5, 2018 21:05:46 GMT -5
I don't see where his arm strength is affecting his ability to get the ball downfield, so I think the comments about it are over blown. You can get by without a strong arm in the NFL. But the rest of your game better be awesome because you're starting with at least one strike against you. Those windows are small in this league. With NFL conditioning and training, his arm strength should increase.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 5, 2018 21:17:04 GMT -5
You can get by without a strong arm in the NFL. But the rest of your game better be awesome because you're starting with at least one strike against you. Those windows are small in this league. With NFL conditioning and training, his arm strength should increase. True. It's what happened to Brady.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 6, 2018 7:23:03 GMT -5
One can still have an opinion on it. I never said anyone couldn't. Where did you get that from? I didnt accuse you of anything. You commented on MHs post and I commented ion yours. Thats how a message board works.....right?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 6, 2018 8:06:26 GMT -5
neither is Drew Brees then again he plays indoors and in the south most of his games. He's got a better chance of being Ryan Nassib, than Drew Brees. this is true, we can dream tho, then again don't know if that type of arm can survive outdoors in the north east.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 6, 2018 8:29:55 GMT -5
I don't see where his arm strength is affecting his ability to get the ball downfield, so I think the comments about it are over blown. You can get by without a strong arm in the NFL. But the rest of your game better be awesome because you're starting with at least one strike against you. Those windows are small in this league. Agree, it seems to me and I haven't done any research, most QBs with lesser arms are playing indoors and in better weather, don't know what these guys would look like playing most of there games in wind or rain sometimes snowing cold, they could adapt the game plan I guess ,but Lauletta or drew brees for that matter are going to have tough times in wind or rain cold to.
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Post by jmike on Aug 6, 2018 9:09:19 GMT -5
I like Lauletta, but I don't think he has the arm strength to be anything more than a stop gap starter in the NFL. Webb has his flaws, but he does seem to have enough arm strength to make the throws. Not confident either will be a franchise QB, but of the two it seems only Webb has a chance.
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Post by RogerThat on Aug 6, 2018 9:10:32 GMT -5
This all has to work itself out. Still, it ticks me off when I hear someone say, or write, that the Giants didn't draft a QB this year.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 6, 2018 9:24:56 GMT -5
This all has to work itself out. Still, it ticks me off when I hear someone say, or write, that the Giants didn't draft a QB this year. What people mean by that is the Giants didn’t draft a QB I wanted.
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 6, 2018 9:43:48 GMT -5
Still, it ticks me off when I hear someone say, or write, that the Giants didn't draft a QB this year.
I hear ya, ticked me off when fans said the Giants ignore the OL yet drafted Bisnowaty
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Aug 6, 2018 10:08:22 GMT -5
I don't see where his arm strength is affecting his ability to get the ball downfield, so I think the comments about it are over blown. You can get by without a strong arm in the NFL. But the rest of your game better be awesome because you're starting with at least one strike against you. Those windows are small in this league. +1
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Aug 6, 2018 10:12:04 GMT -5
I don't think our future QB is on our roster. Only time will tell. I want to remain confident that one is. I just want to see the 2 picks that were made have at least one of them pan out. I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 6, 2018 10:29:56 GMT -5
I don't think our future QB is on our roster. I don't think you're correct . Who do you think it is?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 6, 2018 10:40:41 GMT -5
Honestly ,I think it's Webb .People are saying all the right things about him and he seems to be taking on the new Offense well. Hope you're right but I think the odds are long. The new regime had no opinion I'm sure of the kid when they took over. The biggest rap on him is his decision making in the pocket and there is no way to see that unless he's playing in games. Practices, where QB's have the red jersey on, aren't the place to deal with that.
I hope he's the future because it solves a huge problem for us. But what are the chances really?.......Maybe 1 in 4?....at best
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 6, 2018 10:56:21 GMT -5
Hope you're right but I think the odds are long. The new regime had no opinion I'm sure of the kid when they took over. The biggest rap on him is his decision making in the pocket and there is no way to see that unless he's playing in games. Practices, where QB's have the red jersey on, aren't the place to deal with that.
I hope he's the future because it solves a huge problem for us. But what are the chances really?.......Maybe 1 in 4?....at best
I was not sold on any of the big names out there this year,I might be wrong but I still believe for now we're ok. I have no idea how good those 4 guys are. I suspect that Rosen will be the best of the bunch, but I LOVE Mayfield. We are OK "for now", if by "now" you mean 2018. I expect Eli to manage the offense and function because the talent is far too good not to. After 2018? I have no idea.
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 6, 2018 11:11:45 GMT -5
He''ll never have the arm of Bo Callahan .
Neither fantasy nor sports radio proposed trades were as ridiculous.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 6, 2018 13:12:16 GMT -5
Only time will tell. I want to remain confident that one is. I just want to see the 2 picks that were made have at least one of them pan out. I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No Well, I consider myself pretty realistic and I don't have your certainty. What is this realist opinion based on?
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Post by darrin99 on Aug 6, 2018 13:18:23 GMT -5
I was at training camp a couple of days. Him and Webb both throw very nice balls in practice. .....But it's practice.
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