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Post by jmike on Aug 6, 2018 13:23:47 GMT -5
I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No Well, I consider myself pretty realistic and I don't have your certainty. What is this realist opinion based on? It seems, based on observation, the only requirement to call yourself a "realist" is to agree with one's own opinion. So unless you think you are wrong, you are a realist. If you think your opinion is wrong, seek help.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 6, 2018 13:26:07 GMT -5
Well, I consider myself pretty realistic and I don't have your certainty. What is this realist opinion based on? It seems, based on observation, the only requirement to call yourself a "realist" is to agree with one's own opinion. So unless you think you are wrong, you are a realist. If you think your opinion is wrong, seek help. Oh good. I think I'm right, so I guess that makes me the realest of realists, baby!
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Aug 6, 2018 14:25:21 GMT -5
I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No Well, I consider myself pretty realistic and I don't have your certainty. What is this realist opinion based on? It blows my mind that people get all high on how well our backups are doing "in camp" As others have said I'm not sold on either one of these guys, hell even most of the big names in this years class. You'd have better luck trying to convince me that water isn't wet as opposed to our QB of the future is currently sitting on our roster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 14:35:41 GMT -5
Hope you're right but I think the odds are long. The new regime had no opinion I'm sure of the kid when they took over. The biggest rap on him is his decision making in the pocket and there is no way to see that unless he's playing in games. Practices, where QB's have the red jersey on, aren't the place to deal with that.
I hope he's the future because it solves a huge problem for us. But what are the chances really?.......Maybe 1 in 4?....at best
I was not sold on any of the big names out there this year,I might be wrong but I still believe for now we're ok. This is exactly how I feel.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 6, 2018 16:38:48 GMT -5
Well, I consider myself pretty realistic and I don't have your certainty. What is this realist opinion based on? It blows my mind that people get all high on how well our backups are doing "in camp" As others have said I'm not sold on either one of these guys, hell even most of the big names in this years class. You'd have better luck trying to convince me that water isn't wet as opposed to our QB of the future is currently sitting on our roster. Gotcha. I too assume nothing from a bunch of college players that have done nothing in the NFL and have thus far just put up some stats while playing against future accountants, financial advisors and insurance salesmen. But I also don't assume that means they all suck either. I - like you - would feel exactly the same way if we drafted a QB in the first round.
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2018 17:57:52 GMT -5
Only time will tell. I want to remain confident that one is. I just want to see the 2 picks that were made have at least one of them pan out. I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No This a great second post. Let me get this straight. Anyone that disagrees with you . Does not live in the real world. OK got it.
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Post by giantsalmon on Aug 6, 2018 21:23:44 GMT -5
I think if he gets a fair shot Webb will be the successor, but both our young QBs appear to be character solid guys. That, in and of itself is a huge step in the right direction. As Giants fans we should hope its one of these guys because there will be a bottleneck of necessary contracts coming soon.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 6, 2018 21:37:16 GMT -5
First off. I’m a big Eli fan. But realistically he has 2 years left. How awesome would it be to have Kyle or Davis step up. Personally I’m not seeing the Davis Webb future. But I’m hoping we have our future Star QB on roster. It’s just seems like Webb doesn’t process things as quickly as he should. Lauletta seems very interesting. I wasn’t happy about about picking him, but let’s hope it pans out Lauletta could be a dark horse candidate for future Giants QB there were scouts who said Lauletta if he would have transferred to a school like USC he most likely would have drafted in the top 5 over all of the draft. although there are scouts that say If Davis Webb was in this draft this year he would have been looked at as one of the Top QB's in the draft. I like both there potential and hope we see a lot of them this preseason. I would hope Webb Is second string and Lauletta Is third string?
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Aug 7, 2018 10:01:27 GMT -5
I'm just going to be the spokesperson for all the realists out there and say...No This a great second post. Let me get this straight. Anyone that disagrees with you . Does not live in the real world. OK got it. I fail to see how my post count is a measure of the validity of what I had to say. It would appear that it is actually you that is upset that I didn't instantly drink your kool-aid as your response had nothing to do with the topic on hand and was just an attack on my post. At least other posters had the tact to stay on topic when they responded. I don't have time for toxic people. Keep doing you bruh...I'll keep doing me.
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Post by jmike on Aug 7, 2018 10:48:29 GMT -5
This a great second post. Let me get this straight. Anyone that disagrees with you . Does not live in the real world. OK got it. I fail to see how my post count is a measure of the validity of what I had to say. It would appear that it is actually you that is upset that I didn't instantly drink your kool-aid as your response had nothing to do with the topic on hand and was just an attack on my post. At least other posters had the tact to stay on topic when they responded. I don't have time for toxic people. Keep doing you bruh...I'll keep doing me. He is pointing out that your statement accuses everyone who may disagree with you as delusional. He is probably upset with you calling him delusional.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 7, 2018 10:55:43 GMT -5
Alex Tanney..... a shoe in.... you'll see!!!
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 7, 2018 12:29:48 GMT -5
A fan on a MB thought something so it must be true, obviously. In their monkey mind, once they have predicted the future, all other possibilities are excluded. Anybody who disagrees with their prediction of the future is toxic. Fascinating how the human brain works.
something like...
Brain needs a definitive answer. Brain does not like uncertainty, even if it is future uncertainty. Brain goes back to past experience/knowledge, brain decides something by relating to other brain thoughts. brain makes a decision. Decision becomes monkey minds pseudo reality. Agenda of convincing others ego self is right is set. Ego of monkey mind fights to the death to protect their imaginary POV of future, even resorting to insulting other people etc. but at least uncertainty is gone. phew. ego feels satisfied.
Silly Humans. human thinking is funny. Anyone ever see a bird do anything like that? my little bird brain thinks we should wait n see how it all pans out. call me crazy. maybe one of the back up Qbs becomes the starter, maybe not. who knows? does arguing about it make any sense at all?
someone is bound to say "i told ya so" in the future though. One side or the other will end up being right or wrong. that is what folks do on a MB. It is fun to be right. I say have it and make all the predictions you want. Just be nice about it.
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Post by TEM on Aug 7, 2018 13:47:48 GMT -5
This a great second post. Let me get this straight. Anyone that disagrees with you . Does not live in the real world. OK got it. I fail to see how my post count is a measure of the validity of what I had to say. It would appear that it is actually you that is upset that I didn't instantly drink your kool-aid as your response had nothing to do with the topic on hand and was just an attack on my post. At least other posters had the tact to stay on topic when they responded. I don't have time for toxic people. Keep doing you bruh...I'll keep doing me. You picked me out if the crowd to troll. Don't spin it. You had 2 posts , one you chose to direct at me. If you don't want the burn. Stay out if the fire. Now if you want to engage with respect . I am all for it . You want to call me unrealistic in what I say. because it goes against your opinion. I will call you out on it every time.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 7, 2018 14:56:01 GMT -5
I was not sold on any of the big names out there this year,I might be wrong but I still believe for now we're ok. I have no idea how good those 4 guys are. I suspect that Rosen will be the best of the bunch, but I LOVE Mayfield. We are OK "for now", if by "now" you mean 2018. I expect Eli to manage the offense and function because the talent is far too good not to. After 2018? I have no idea.
I see you are expecting a big year from Eli.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 7, 2018 15:00:10 GMT -5
I have no idea how good those 4 guys are. I suspect that Rosen will be the best of the bunch, but I LOVE Mayfield. We are OK "for now", if by "now" you mean 2018. I expect Eli to manage the offense and function because the talent is far too good not to. After 2018? I have no idea.
I see you are expecting a big year from Eli. I expect him not to suck. That's as far as I can go.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 7, 2018 16:23:19 GMT -5
I see you are expecting a big year from Eli. I expect him not to suck. That's as far as I can go. That's blatant optimism. Even MS has been bitten by the "hope springs eternal" bug. Good to see.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 7, 2018 16:30:42 GMT -5
Sorry, not enough time for me to read the entire thread but I have been hearing just the opposite on Lauletta. I hear that his pre-draft reportedly weak arm is showing itself in camp. Right now he does not show NFL arm strength.
Webb is a much better bet by every account I have read since the draft, through OTAs and minicamp.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 7, 2018 21:00:24 GMT -5
I see you are expecting a big year from Eli. I expect him not to suck. That's as far as I can go. You know he is going to have a big year.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 7, 2018 21:06:37 GMT -5
I expect him not to suck. That's as far as I can go. That's blatant optimism. Even MS has been bitten by the "hope springs eternal" bug. Good to see. It would seem so.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 23:00:50 GMT -5
Still, it ticks me off when I hear someone say, or write, that the Giants didn't draft a QB this year.
I hear ya, ticked me off when fans said the Giants ignore the OL yet drafted Bisnowaty
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Post by bred22 on Aug 8, 2018 7:06:03 GMT -5
Webb has been crushing it lately no? Thats probably the #1 thing i'm looking forward too Thursday is seeing what he can do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 8:36:46 GMT -5
Sorry, not enough time for me to read the entire thread but I have been hearing just the opposite on Lauletta. I hear that his pre-draft reportedly weak arm is showing itself in camp. Right now he does not show NFL arm strength. Webb is a much better bet by every account I have read since the draft, through OTAs and minicamp. Same here. Everything I’ve read, listened to and watched has been overwhelmingly positive on Webb. He basically came into camp and proved within a couple days he was a shoe in for the #2 job. Has done very very well.
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