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Post by allnygin on Aug 5, 2018 17:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Aug 5, 2018 18:19:37 GMT -5
Well he went back in to play so hopefully nothing serious.
The OL still sucking is not good news.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 5, 2018 18:22:41 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. |
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Post by allnygin on Aug 5, 2018 18:23:29 GMT -5
It's just so bizarre to think that ever since like 2012.. this teams offensive line has been absolutely horrible.. and it's 2018 and still just just as bad. I know better, but I'm just going to hope that they'll get it together. I'm ready for some decent football again around here!
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Post by allnygin on Aug 5, 2018 18:25:43 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. Not quite.. really, but emphasis on the lack of quality at CB if one of those guys goes down do to a freak thing (Jenkins, Apple). Or if one decides to give up like last season.. Thats a big thing going into this season as well |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 5, 2018 18:26:22 GMT -5
Maybe we have the best blitz schemes in the NFL right now lol..
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Post by GameTime on Aug 5, 2018 18:28:01 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. Not quite.. really, but emphasis on the lack of quality at CB if one of those guys goes down do to a freak thing (Jenkins, Apple). Or if one decides to give up like last season.. Thats a big thing going into this season as well I bet not many teams a three or four starting caliber CB. Not talking about slot corners. |
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Post by jb456 on Aug 5, 2018 18:28:39 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. Not quite.. really, but emphasis on the lack of quality at CB if one of those guys goes down do to a freak thing (Jenkins, Apple). Or if one decides to give up like last season.. Thats a big thing going into this season as well They should just resign DRC. How much could this guy want if he hasn't been signed yet? Or, maybe he feels insulted and will take less money elsewhere. If so, damn.... |
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Post by allnygin on Aug 5, 2018 18:31:42 GMT -5
Not quite.. really, but emphasis on the lack of quality at CB if one of those guys goes down do to a freak thing (Jenkins, Apple). Or if one decides to give up like last season.. Thats a big thing going into this season as well They should just resign DRC. How much could this guy want if he hasn't been signed yet? Or, maybe he feels insulted and will take less money elsewhere. If so, damn.... Fair point. |
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Post by allnygin on Aug 5, 2018 18:32:56 GMT -5
Not quite.. really, but emphasis on the lack of quality at CB if one of those guys goes down do to a freak thing (Jenkins, Apple). Or if one decides to give up like last season.. Thats a big thing going into this season as well They should just resign DRC. How much could this guy want if he hasn't been signed yet? Or, maybe he feels insulted and will take less money elsewhere. If so, damn.... True, I mean it wouldn't hurt on our side of things at least. Looks like Seattle has their eye on him.. not sure what will come of that though. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 5, 2018 19:17:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I know he's 31 or whatever, but I'd bring him back for the right price for sure.....
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 5, 2018 22:52:22 GMT -5
It's still really early to cast judgement bit I thought they'd be much improved with the signings of Soder & Obremeh. The drafting of Hernandez and shifting Flowers over to right side. So far it's like business as usual revolving door right to Eli. It's almost as if it's the same line as last year so far But I hold out hope because it's a bunch of guys that have not played together for the most part so it might take a little time to gell and get a chemistry going I feel once that happens they will be a very good unit capable of getting Eli the time he needs to be successful and opening holes for the RBs to go through |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 5, 2018 22:54:59 GMT -5
Maybe we have the best blitz schemes in the NFL right now lol.. Attaboy!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:44:14 GMT -5
I wish he was more specific. Who was getting beat? Was it Flowers AGAIN? Was it the interior? They gotta get their act together.
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Post by Jaydub on Aug 6, 2018 5:28:58 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. I recall having a discussion about OL chemistry, and was told that it was nothing but a media created myth, or some other nonsense. It does matter, it's a real thing, and even though it's early, it sounds like it's creating a problem with the OL |
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Post by jb456 on Aug 6, 2018 7:49:39 GMT -5
The whole point of this thread was refuted within the article.Would a player with a knee injury end practice on the side line without any assistance? I would have used this story to point out that Oline chemistry is a big deal. If the line isn't coordinated, Manning will get killed on the blitz. I recall having a discussion about OL chemistry, and was told that it was nothing but a media created myth, or some other nonsense. It does matter, it's a real thing, and even though it's early, it sounds like it's creating a problem with the OL Anyone who watches football knows that Oline chemistry is a very important. It doesn't matter if everyone can handle their individual assignments when the defense starts blitzing and those blitzes aren't picked up. Any QB will get killed especially a non mobile QB. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 8:13:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I know he's 31 or whatever, but I'd bring him back for the right price for sure..... He's 32, but still has the gears to run with receivers. Will Gay is 33 and I don't see the same kind of gear. This unit is done if Jenkins or Apple goes down. The fact that Apple hasn't proven himself yet is even scarier. This was an avoidable mess. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 6, 2018 10:01:12 GMT -5
I don't understand how people thought things would be great right off the bat , great practices,great games, great season?  This is going to take work and these guys need to get it right and that will take time.I said it before it will be a slow start,this is exactly the type of stuff I was talking about, the doom and gloom post's after a bad practice ,wait till they lose a pre season game this board will go nuts! Yes I agree. Did you see my quote/post above?? These guys have never played together on the O line outside of two of them but veven they are in different positions. It takes time for an O Line vto become a cohesive unit. It won't be overnight as you said. There will be missed blocks leading to sacks and INTs. Missed blocks allowing defenders to take Barkley down for losses. Penalties glore. But I also think unlike the last two years where it was mostly bad 90% of the time you will see flashes of brilliance from this line that will give us hope of what it could gell into if we're patient |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 6, 2018 12:55:45 GMT -5
I don't understand how people thought things would be great right off the bat , great practices,great games, great season? This is going to take work and these guys need to get it right and that will take time.I said it before it will be a slow start,this is exactly the type of stuff I was talking about, the doom and gloom post's after a bad practice ,wait till they lose a pre season game this board will go nuts! they are going to need time to learn each other and jell this was really starting from scratch,I wanna see them in the first 2 or 3 preseason games the last 4-5 years you knew the offense was gonna struggle because the line couldn't make adjustments and learn from the tape, during the preseason they could barely run plays, the key here will be if they struggle week one will they improve week 2 and so on. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 6, 2018 12:58:43 GMT -5
I don't understand how people thought things would be great right off the bat , great practices,great games, great season? This is going to take work and these guys need to get it right and that will take time.I said it before it will be a slow start,this is exactly the type of stuff I was talking about, the doom and gloom post's after a bad practice ,wait till they lose a pre season game this board will go nuts! Yes I agree. Did you see my quote/post above?? These guys have never played together on the O line outside of two of them but veven they are in different positions. It takes time for an O Line vto become a cohesive unit. It won't be overnight as you said. There will be missed blocks leading to sacks and INTs. Missed blocks allowing defenders to take Barkley down for losses. Penalties glore. But I also think unlike the last two years where it was mostly bad 90% of the time you will see flashes of brilliance from this line that will give us hope of what it could gell into if we're patient and they have a rookie promising or not it's a process,this will take a little time, you don't fix 5 years of ineptitude in 1 offseason. |
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Post by Nick6475 on Aug 6, 2018 14:24:59 GMT -5
From ESPN:
"Eli Apple finished 2017 ranked 75th in coverage success rate, while the Giants let go the player who ranked first (Ross Cockrell). Apple has intercepted only one pass in 25 games."
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 6, 2018 16:24:41 GMT -5
From ESPN: "Eli Apple finished 2017 ranked 75th in coverage success rate, while the Giants let go the player who ranked first (Ross Cockrell). Apple has intercepted only one pass in 25 games." That and he's always hurt. |
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 6, 2018 21:46:52 GMT -5
If all our hopes are hinging on Eli Apple that is really sad I didn't even know he was still on the team? The dude we drafted this year that got hurt is a young kid definitely overrated again he wasn't one of our # 1 guys. This offseason Gentleman signed a surplus of secondary guys we should have some depth at the secondary positions. I know not all of them are great number 1 guys but you guys know how it works you throw enough stuff onto the walls eventually something will stick. |
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Post by Merc on Aug 7, 2018 12:55:53 GMT -5
If all our hopes are hinging on Eli Apple that is really sad I didn't even know he was still on the team? The dude we drafted this year that got hurt is a young kid definitely overrated again he wasn't one of our # 1 guys. This offseason Gentleman signed a surplus of secondary guys we should have some depth at the secondary positions. I know not all of them are great number 1 guys but you guys know how it works you throw enough stuff onto the walls eventually something will stick. There still could be excess good CBs after the final cut down available to us. |
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 7, 2018 12:59:30 GMT -5
If all our hopes are hinging on Eli Apple that is really sad I didn't even know he was still on the team? The dude we drafted this year that got hurt is a young kid definitely overrated again he wasn't one of our # 1 guys. This offseason Gentleman signed a surplus of secondary guys we should have some depth at the secondary positions. I know not all of them are great number 1 guys but you guys know how it works you throw enough stuff onto the walls eventually something will stick. There still could be excess good CBs after the final cut down available to us. All I know the Giants signed a lot of secondary guys for depth we should be good there. |
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Post by Merc on Aug 7, 2018 16:22:18 GMT -5
There still could be excess good CBs after the final cut down available to us. All I know the Giants signed a lot of secondary guys for depth we should be good there. Yes, but an upgrade is always welcomed. |
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This is going to take work and these guys need to get it right and that will take time.I said it before it will be a slow start,this is exactly the type of stuff I was talking about, the doom and gloom post's after a bad practice ,wait till they lose a pre season game this board will go nuts!
