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Post by TCHOF on Sept 6, 2019 8:14:45 GMT -5
Think of something that really annoys you. Now multiply that by 20 and you have Ereck Flowers. haha . I think he was unfairly blamed for the giants offensive issues . I dont think he was great but not nearly as bad as fans say. He was every bit as bad as he has been made out to be ... and then some. He also had a bad attitude and was not coachable.
Continue with your trolling though ....
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Post by jmike on Sept 6, 2019 9:14:44 GMT -5
haha . I think he was unfairly blamed for the giants offensive issues . I dont think he was great but not nearly as bad as fans say. He was every bit as bad as he has been made out to be ... and then some. He also had a bad attitude and was not coachable.
Continue with your trolling though ....
I can deal with some bad play from a young player working hard to improve. All reports about him say he was unwilling to improve because he did not see any deficiencies in his play. I don't think there has been any unfair criticism directed his way. Frankly, I don't think he has received enough criticism for his play here.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Sept 6, 2019 10:22:27 GMT -5
Stupar finally gone!
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 6, 2019 10:44:25 GMT -5
3 -13 we pick within the top 5 in the draft
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Post by DonnieYen on Sept 6, 2019 12:58:35 GMT -5
I am going with 10-6 and a Wild card birth...
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Post by McCherry on Sept 6, 2019 13:58:48 GMT -5
I am going with 10-6 and a Wild card birth... Bet on DonnieYen. He’s one of the few who called it on draft day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 14:05:21 GMT -5
haha . I think he was unfairly blamed for the giants offensive issues . I dont think he was great but not nearly as bad as fans say. He was every bit as bad as he has been made out to be ... and then some. He also had a bad attitude and was not coachable.
Continue with your trolling though ....
trolling would be stating your opinion as if it was a fact. you are saying he is uncoachable. yet he made a starting spot with the redskins.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 6, 2019 14:37:26 GMT -5
yet he made a starting spot with the redskins. He "beat" a rookie 4th round pick. And many feel not for long.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 14:44:29 GMT -5
yet he made a starting spot with the redskins. He "beat" a rookie 4th round pick. And many feel not for long. im not saying he is great, or a pro bowler, im just saying this rumor that he is uncoachable is just that, a rumor.
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Post by jmike on Sept 6, 2019 14:55:40 GMT -5
He "beat" a rookie 4th round pick. And many feel not for long. im not saying he is great, or a pro bowler, im just saying this rumor that he is uncoachable is just that, a rumor. That comes from his coaches...soooooo...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 15:07:13 GMT -5
im not saying he is great, or a pro bowler, im just saying this rumor that he is uncoachable is just that, a rumor. That comes from his coaches...soooooo... do you have a direct quote?
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Post by jmike on Sept 6, 2019 15:16:22 GMT -5
That comes from his coaches...soooooo... do you have a direct quote? Nope, it came from Flaherty. If you want to hunt it down, go for it. IDC enough about Flowers to waste my effort.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 15:37:46 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team?
Something isnt adding up here.
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 6, 2019 15:47:50 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. He's great!
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Post by jmike on Sept 6, 2019 16:00:47 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Well, he's on the redskins now. Maybe he has finally learned his lessons and is working hard. I don't know and I don't care. He was a terrible player here and would not work with coaches or even acknowledge that he needed to improve (that came from his coach, teammates and out of his own mouth). He was a bad player, a bad teammate and lazy. Now he is gone...good...what he has done since I have neither followed nor cared about. He was only here for so long because of the same flaw that got Reese fired, he was unable to admit and correct a mistake. DG and co was willing to give players like him and Apple a fresh start and it didn't work out. Shame. Bottom line though, as fans, we can ignore all that and just hate him for how bad he was. They have never had, in my recollection, a player on the OL that played as many games as he did who was worse.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 6, 2019 16:22:26 GMT -5
Flowers was bad in camp and preseason. I have a few Skins fan friends and they are hating him already. Is he not the Tackle anymore though? Did Williams sign? Sign what ? Trent Williams still has two years left on his contract. He was seen and talked to AP but the Trent Williams situation goes much deeper than money with the Skins. His complaint was how they handled or mishandled a medical situation with him. True, but money cures all. I dont think he plays without signing a new deal (extension) to compensate for what he felt was malpractice by the organization so that he feels more secure. .
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 6, 2019 17:24:20 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Because Left Tackles are as rare as unicorns in the league He will have a 7-10 year career
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Post by McCherry on Sept 6, 2019 17:42:46 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. $4M? And a 5th year veteran on his third team and second position change barely clinging to a roster spot over a promising rookie doesn't exactly scream vindication.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:08:49 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. $4M? And a 5th year veteran on his third team and second position change barely clinging to a roster spot over a promising rookie doesn't exactly scream vindication. yes but if i was to believe all thats said about him on this forum then i would expect a undrafted FA with one arm to beat him out of a starting position.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 6, 2019 19:34:59 GMT -5
Because Left Tackles are as rare as unicorns in the league He will have a 7-10 year career He is playing left guard and if trent williams was back on the team ...............most likely he wouldn't be. Soon to be playing left out
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 6, 2019 19:55:43 GMT -5
He is playing left guard and if trent williams was back on the team ...............most likely he wouldn't be. Soon to be playing left out Flowers would find a way to screw that up.
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Post by giants38 on Sept 6, 2019 22:13:08 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Somehow Hart lands a starting job on an NFL team. What does that prove?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 6, 2019 22:31:58 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Somehow Hart lands a starting job on an NFL team. What does that prove? Greg Robinson and Jokiel still end up on teams and they have been bigger busts Telling
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 23:07:34 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Somehow Hart lands a starting job on an NFL team. What does that prove? I suspect it means fans are too harsh on these players, and they while not great ,still have a desired skill set.
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Post by BlueReign on Sept 7, 2019 6:33:48 GMT -5
9-7, battling for Wild Card in Eli’s swan song.
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Post by bklynblue on Sept 7, 2019 7:18:23 GMT -5
I went with 10- 6 being the consummate optimist. 9-7 because I'm the consummate optimist as well. I believe our defense once again will lose a couple of games for their failure to get off the field.
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Post by TEM on Sept 7, 2019 7:20:02 GMT -5
I went with 10- 6 being the consummate optimist. 9-7 because I'm the consummate optimist as well. I believe our defense once again will lose a couple of games for their failure to get off the field. I am thinking that the talent on the D is better than last season.
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Post by Nite on Sept 7, 2019 7:24:16 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Teams occasionally acquire a player discarded from other teams thinking that somehow they can change or rehabilitate them. The diamond in the rough theory..As exhibit A I give you Antonio Brown.. A player not only has to have talent and play well but to get along with his teammates, coaching staff and FO..Not saying Flowers is a lunatic like AB but he is stubborn refusing to see and correct the flaws in his game
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 7, 2019 10:30:28 GMT -5
let me understand this. Flowers is unliked ,has a bad attitude , isnt smart , is a bad player , uncoachable , had a bad camp and had a bad preseason , but somehow he lands a starting role on a nfl team? Something isnt adding up here. Somehow Hart lands a starting job on an NFL team. What does that prove? That NFL OL are really hard to find?
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Post by TEM on Sept 7, 2019 10:39:43 GMT -5
Somehow Hart lands a starting job on an NFL team. What does that prove? That NFL OL are really hard to find? Anyone with NFL live game experience is wanted.
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