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Post by TEM on Aug 10, 2018 10:49:28 GMT -5
LOL, I love reading comments after a preseason game. Yeah, it’s hilarious reading all the comments about how nothing matters in preseason. WINS AND LOSSES don’t matter in preseason. What happens on the field absolutely does. If you’re not at least a little concerned about what you saw from Davis Webb, for example, then I don’t know what to tell you. I don't know if he can . He could not make throws in practice being red shirted. Jitters as an excuse would not be concerning if he did show the same demeanor in camp. Indecisive, poor quality in his throws. being late with the throw, not progressing through his reads before bailing. It is not like his line was not giving him enough time. We have all seen these types of QBs, IMO: It never works well for these QB with his style of play to transition into the NFL without some drastic change in their approach to their game.
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Post by spaceweather on Aug 10, 2018 10:52:05 GMT -5
Dude, Chill. LMAO
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 10:52:14 GMT -5
LOL, I love reading comments after a preseason game. Yeah, it’s hilarious reading all the comments about how nothing matters in preseason. WINS AND LOSSES don’t matter in preseason. What happens on the field absolutely does. If you’re not at least a little concerned about what you saw from Davis Webb, for example, then I don’t know what to tell you. Yeah, he needs work for sure. but wasn't he playing with the depth? and I'm not sold on the fact that he will be the starter after Eli is gone anyway... too far ahead to predict.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 10, 2018 11:24:07 GMT -5
Ripped you're in midseason form buddy. That run by Barkley was really all I needed to see last night. I was thinking, just show me that investment was worth it. It literally took 1 snap for me to be satisfied. Maybe that's small minded, but I believe it's OK to be small minded on the 1st preseason game when you are implementing a new offense, defense and offensive line. Oh, and Beckham wasn't on the field with the 1st team O which impacts everything.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 10, 2018 11:30:50 GMT -5
It was an ugly first preseason game, that's for sure. Now that the coaching staff and players have a better idea of what needs to be worked on, and improved, we'll see if it was just a facet of new staff, first game, or another trend like we have seen the last few seasons. If they still look discombobulated during the 3rd preseason game, my concern will skyrocket.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 17:10:59 GMT -5
I Agree. We are totally F@@@@@. We did not win the Super bowl in the 1st half of week one of the preseason. Oh I forgot preseason means nothing, just like it's meant nothing when the offense has been putrid all preseason over the past 6 years. What was our combined record those 6 years in the regular season? 35-61? I try not to put much stock ina preseason game but the trend this team has shown the past few years is frightening. Lack know talent and execution is abundant. And one thing to note: Barkley has one good run on the first play of a preseason game = he’s sick. The giants as a whole look putrid for an entire preseason game = meaningless, just relax, it’s a preseason game. I don’t get the dichotomy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 17:17:14 GMT -5
Browns were undefeated last preseason. How did that work out for them? Good grief.... Every year it’s the same shit with some off you, just a different board. Pretty sure most savvy fans couldn’t care less about the final score and/or Preseason record. If our first team offense and defense look sharp and we lose 37-10 I couldn’t care less. It’s about how the team looks in execution and fundamentals. And if you were paying attention the Giants once again look mediocre with regards to those components.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 17:28:46 GMT -5
Oh I forgot preseason means nothing, just like it's meant nothing when the offense has been putrid all preseason over the past 6 years. What was our combined record those 6 years in the regular season? 35-61? I try not to put much stock ina preseason game but the trend this team has shown the past few years is frightening. Lack know talent and execution is abundant. And one thing to note: Barkley has one good run on the first play of a preseason game = he’s sick. The giants as a whole look putrid for an entire preseason game = meaningless, just relax, it’s a preseason game. I don’t get the dichotomy. Nice to see someone with a sensible reply, thanks for that. Too many blind homers on these boards who think the Giants can never do any wrong and think they're going 12-4 every year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 7:22:54 GMT -5
I try not to put much stock ina preseason game but the trend this team has shown the past few years is frightening. Lack know talent and execution is abundant. And one thing to note: Barkley has one good run on the first play of a preseason game = he’s sick. The giants as a whole look putrid for an entire preseason game = meaningless, just relax, it’s a preseason game. I don’t get the dichotomy. Nice to see someone with a sensible reply, thanks for that. Too many blind homers on these boards who think the Giants can never do any wrong and think they're going 12-4 every year. 19-0 Hater
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 8:15:27 GMT -5
Nice to see someone with a sensible reply, thanks for that. Too many blind homers on these boards who think the Giants can never do any wrong and think they're going 12-4 every year. 19-0 Hater Oh, come on...they're not going undefeated. I say 18-1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 8:45:57 GMT -5
LOL, I love reading comments after a preseason game. Yeah, it’s hilarious reading all the comments about how nothing matters in preseason. WINS AND LOSSES don’t matter in preseason. What happens on the field absolutely does. If you’re not at least a little concerned about what you saw from Davis Webb, for example, then I don’t know what to tell you. we can grab Josh Allen when he becomes a FA and Eli retires. Webb doesn’t have to be in the picture. Too much panicking over a guy who may never start for us.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 12, 2018 8:53:47 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s hilarious reading all the comments about how nothing matters in preseason. WINS AND LOSSES don’t matter in preseason. What happens on the field absolutely does. If you’re not at least a little concerned about what you saw from Davis Webb, for example, then I don’t know what to tell you. . Too much panicking over a guy who may never start for us. Which is the point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:18:59 GMT -5
Oh, come on...they're not going undefeated. I say 18-1. Hater
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Post by Speedman on Aug 12, 2018 16:10:49 GMT -5
Oh, come on...they're not going undefeated. I say 18-1. As long as the 1 isn’t the last game of the year.
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 12, 2018 17:43:52 GMT -5
Too many people suffering from the curse of high expectations,
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 13, 2018 0:07:16 GMT -5
Too many people suffering from the curse of high expectations, Have you met my wife?
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Post by brownelvis54 on Aug 14, 2018 18:30:25 GMT -5
I love how much people think the preseason is an indication of the regular season. They did not game plan to win this game, they planned to evaluate players based on situations. The scoreboard is meaningless in preseason, all that matters is the evaluation.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 14, 2018 18:32:43 GMT -5
I love how much people think the preseason is an indication of the regular season. They did not game plan to win this game, they planned to evaluate players based on situations. The scoreboard is meaningless in preseason, all that matters is the evaluation. Bigfoot approved this message.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 20:10:50 GMT -5
Too many people suffering from the curse of high expectations, Have you met my wife? this guy.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 14, 2018 21:22:53 GMT -5
No, it isn't .The point is too much panicking.......period. The point is that he may never be good enough to ever start for us. No one (certainly not me) is panicking. But it WOULD be nice to see some guys play well in these games. That's all.
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Post by redeyejedi on Aug 15, 2018 6:23:32 GMT -5
OBJ playing will change everything my friend. It will certainly help, it's not going to make the line any better. Not going to change the fact we've got 1 good CB and the rest are crap either. I know this won't be a popular opinion but other than drafting Will Hernandez and trading Jason Pierre Paul I haven't liked one thing Dave Gettlemen has done.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 15, 2018 6:26:56 GMT -5
The point is that he may never be good enough to ever start for us. No one (certainly not me) is panicking. But it WOULD be nice to see some guys play well in these games. That's all.
"GAMES", my point is...........it has ONLY BEEN ONE GAME ,so far and look at the over the head response's from many here , yes panic! It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly.
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Post by redeyejedi on Aug 15, 2018 6:31:03 GMT -5
"GAMES", my point is...........it has ONLY BEEN ONE GAME ,so far and look at the over the head response's from many here , yes panic! It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly. Our pass rush is brutal and we have 2 legitimate starters in the secondary. Its going to take another off-season or 2 to fix the team. One of the reasons I thought trading down and not taking a RB at 2 was a far more responsible action.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 15, 2018 6:32:58 GMT -5
It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly. Our pass rush is brutal and we have 2 legitimate starters in the secondary. Its going to take another off-season or 2 to fix the team. One of the reasons I thought trading down and not taking a RB at 2 was a far more responsible action. Hey...Saquan was shiny and pretty....how could they possibly pass on him?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 6:42:25 GMT -5
I love how much people think the preseason is an indication of the regular season. They did not game plan to win this game, they planned to evaluate players based on situations. The scoreboard is meaningless in preseason, all that matters is the evaluation. Well this is disheartening to know, I bought beer and snacks for nothing.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 15, 2018 6:49:22 GMT -5
It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly. When it matters ,yes of course but pre season to the coach's mean something different then it does to the fans. Just as a minor point.....Aren't you tired after EVERY preseason game for years, of having to say "It's just preseason?"
I've been doing it for years. I guess I reached my breaking point this week. I just want to see good play on the field.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 15, 2018 7:06:20 GMT -5
It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly. Our pass rush is brutal and we have 2 legitimate starters in the secondary. Its going to take another off-season or 2 to fix the team. One of the reasons I thought trading down and not taking a RB at 2 was a far more responsible action. Thats what would have been ideal. If they loved one of the QBs, get them. If not, trade back. And its not like there wasnt willing partners to do so. A RB wont change this team around much. Will he be great? Probably. But we all know great RBs dont make a team a SB contender. Great QBs do.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 7:08:04 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason.
If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 15, 2018 7:10:52 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason. If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it. I think its fairly obvious our DBs are going to be the weak spot. This was BEFORE the offseason too, so Gettleman could have addressed it. Sam Beal was being relied on IMO to be an immediate impact guy. And you are dead on with calling out Eli. Its been a long time since he performed well for an extended time. The blame always got thrown around everywhere else, but the QB needs to do his job. Im thinking more like 8-8 is our ceiling this year.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 15, 2018 7:20:22 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason. If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it. I think its fairly obvious our DBs are going to be the weak spot. This was BEFORE the offseason too, so Gettleman could have addressed it. Sam Beal was being relied on IMO to be an immediate impact guy. And you are dead on with calling out Eli. Its been a long time since he performed well for an extended time. The blame always got thrown around everywhere else, but the QB needs to do his job. Im thinking more like 8-8 is our ceiling this year. Is DRC so washed up that they won't even bother to resign him after how inept the Corners look in practice and the game? I know he had a down year in 2017 but I would think he is definitely an upgrade over twist himself into a pretzel Apple...
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